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Rating the Potential GMs of the All-Star Game

Granted, I'm a few days late on this, however I had trouble finding some stats I wanted to use.

Certainly the All-Star game and draft aren't perfect and not everybody loves them, but as I enthused in the open-thread on Thursday, I'm enthralled with them, particularly now that players have to be mini-GMs of a sort. From picking teams to deciding on lines and participants in the Skills Competitions, it's fascinating to see who has a better understanding of the players available.

Of course, looking at the winner of a single game is hardly indicative of who did a better job. If the Stanley Cup playoffs were only one game per series, history would be entirely different. So given the nature of the All-Star Game (all offense, zero defense) who could we reasonably expect to win an All-Star game series?

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While GVT is hardly a perfect metric, it's a perfectly workable one for this case: defensive defensemen, who do very little of their specialty in the ASG show up lower than high octane players like Evgeni Malkin and Claude Giroux. And while goalies might not do as much, it's a value type look. How much more valuable is Tim Thomas over Carey Price in the game? (Significantly)

Team Chara GVT Team Alfredsson GVT
Tim Thomas 23.1 Jonathan Quick 26.3
Jimmy Howard 19.9 Henrik Lundqvist 25
Evgeni Malkin 16.4 Brian Elliott 14.5
Marian Hossa 15.2 Claude Giroux 12.4
Pavel Datsyuk 13.5 Steven Stamkos 12.3
Joffrey Lupul 12.5 Daniel Sedin 12.1
Tyler Seguin 12.2 Scott Hartnell 11.6
Marian Gaborik 11.5 Jason Spezza 11.2
Phil Kessel 11.3 Henrik Sedin 11
Jordan Eberle 10.9 Erik Karlsson 10.8
Patrick Kane 9.3 Shea Weber 10.7
Jamie Benn 9.2 John Tavares 10.3
Kimmo Timonen 9.2 Jason Pominville 10
Zdeno Chara 8.8 Daniel Alfredsson 9.9
Brian Campbell 7.8 James Neal 9.7
Jarome Iginla 7.6 Logan Couture 8.6
Dennis Wideman 7.4 Alexander Edler 8.3
Corey Perry 7.1 Kris Letang 6.9
Dion Phaneuf 6.5 Milan Michalek 6
Ryan Suter 6.4 Dan Girardi 5
Carey Price 4.4 Keith Yandle 5
Total 230.2 Total 237.6
AVG 10.96 AVG 11.31
Median 9.3 Median 10.7

As you can see, the losers of the ASG, Team Alfredsson, would have a higher GVT at 237.6, thanks mostly to the fact that Carey Price is terrible. That doesn't really create a good picture though, given that NHL teams only carry two goalies at a time (except sometimes the Islanders). So I also ran the same report eliminating the ostensible "third goalies"- Carey Price and Brian Elliott, who in this fantasy scenario have been sent to the All-Star Game minors.

At that point the two teams come out a lot closer, with Team Chara edging out Team Alfredsson at 225.8 vs. 223.1. Neither was particularly more significant than the other to begin with, but this pretty much shows that both teams were neck and neck in quality.

That said, I decided to look at GVT per cap hit and see who would succeed better in a salary cap world, then I realized Capgeek changed its cap calculator and it would be entirely too much effort.

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Hey Arik,

I’m going to totally hi-jack your All-star thread (since I suspect it is not going to be very heated debate subject). I saw The Low Anthem last weekend live in Calgary at the Jack Singer. Amazing. They did a great version of “This God Damn House” (which is set up differently than in the video, with the lead singer playing the saw). I swear each member basically played almost every instrument in rotation. And a crazy menagerie of instruments it was (aside from the classic rock trio): upright bass, pump organ, clarinet, harmonica, trumpet, tenor horn, clarinet, dulcimer, saw, and everything that could be bowed, was bowed at one time or another. It was just an opening set for City & Colour, so it would be really nice to seem them come back and headline a show.

by mike_H on Feb 2, 2012 1:58 PM PST reply actions  

Seven game series, please…

"You said you didn't give a f#%k about hockey. And I never saw someone say that before..."
"Storm coming? Hatchet coming!"

by TheBurnward on Feb 3, 2012 5:55 AM PST reply actions  

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