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2011 NHL Entry Draft Profiles: Ty Rattie

TORONTO CANADA - JANUARY 19:  Ty Rattie #8  of Team Cherry is hammered by  Brandon Saad #22 of Team Orr in the 2011 Home Hardware Top Prospects game on January 19 2011 at the Air Canada Centre in Toronto Canada. Team Orr defeated Team Cherry 7-1. (Photo by Claus Andersen/Getty Images)

Goals: 28

Points: 79

Weight: 170 lbs.

Height: 5'11"

Position: RW

Junior Team: Portland Winterhawks 

 

Midterm CSS Rank: 11

Final Rank: 17 

Ty Rattie is another player that experienced a break-out year as a 17/18 year-old in his second full season with the WHL's Portland Winterhawks. The lanky right-winger accumulated 28 goals and 51 assists in 67-games with the Winterhawks in the regular season while adding an additional nine goals and 22 points in 21 playoff games before Portland bowed out to Max Reinhart's Kootenay Ice in the WHL final. Rattie's 79-points placed him third amongst 2011 draft-eligible forwards behind only Ryan Nugent-Hopkins and teammate Sven Bartschi. 

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Unlike Scheifele, the majority of Rattie's points in 2010-11 came at even strength; while he still scored at a rate of about 0.31 PP points/game with six goals and 15 assists with the extra man in 67 games, he found the back of the net 22 times and collected 58 points at EV. 

The Winterhawks finished atop the WHL's Western Conference with 103 points, and the squad was so talented this past season that Rattie finished fourth in scoring behind Ryan Johansen, over-ager Craig Cunningham, and Sven Bartschi, playing on a line with the latter two throughout much of the season. 

The Scouting Report's Curtis Deem is confident that Rattie isn't simply riding his linemates' coattails, however: 

While playing with two such highly skilled players undoubtedly helped Rattie become a higher scoring player, the 18-year old Airdrie, Alberta native was certainly a key part of the Portland attack. Rattie is an excellent passer, with good vision and patience with the puck. He effectively used these tools to set up his teammates with tape-to-tape passes that often generated scoring chances, many for easy tap-in goals. Rattie is also an excellent shooter, able to get his shot away quickly and accurately, and though his goal totals aren’t overwhelming, this allows him to open up space for his teammates, and keeps defenders honest when they’re playing against him.

Rattie is a good skater, but he is by no means going to put you in awe with his speed – another aspect of his game that could use improvement. His defensive play improved a little over the season, but still needs work

At this point, Rattie has to be considered a project player by whichever NHL team selects him. Without a doubt, he has some serious offensive skill, but he will need to add some mass and learn to play the game with the same attention and effort in all three zones before he’s ready to make the jump.

With the 13th overall pick in the Draft, it's unlikely that the Flames are going to score a player that isn't a "project player," which is unfortunate since their system is already stocked with such prospects. While it's obvious that Rattie has the skills, it's difficult to know what you're truly working with when a prospect plays on a team stacked with talent up front (i.e. Greg Nemisz and the Windsor Spitfires). Personally, I'd like to see the Flames go after someone slightly bigger than Rattie, but again, when your greatest need lies at the forward position, you have to take a chance with a player that is skilled offensively and hope that they become more well-rounded with time if you're Jay Feaster and the Flames scouting staff. 

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I can pretty much guarantee you that Rattie isn’t 170-probably closer to 160. Kid is an absolute stick.

As far as his play goes, he’s always struggled a tiny bit with his speed and he’s never really been good on his side of the blueline. Even in Peewee and Bantam-you could tell there were some problems in those two areas, but it didn’t matter then because he absolutely dominated the other 125 feet of the ice. I didn’t see Portland much this year aside from one or two games on Shaw and the finals, so I’m not really sure if he’s improved in those parts of his game; but judging from scouting reports he hasn’t. What he does have is a wicked release, sick dangles and great passing vision. He wouldn’t be a terrible pick, but I’d consider it a bit of a reach if the Flames took him at 13.

by Justin Azevedo on Jun 7, 2011 2:13 PM PDT reply actions  

I should say though: weight on an 18 year old isn’t a big deal. The kid can make himself stronger. Too bad NHL teams value size so much-that’s why you get Nigel Dawes being bought out and Ivanans being brought in. Unless a guy is like 5’4, there really isn’t any reason a “small” player can’t succeed in the Chell if he’s got enough skill.

by Justin Azevedo on Jun 7, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s absolutely one of the things I’m going to hammer on in my next 13th Overall piece. And oh hey- it’s 9 PM and I finally have something resembling internet back. wooo

by ArikJames on Jun 7, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Puerto Rico- Awesome beaches, females & booze. Terrible internet.

by Justin Azevedo on Jun 8, 2011 2:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah- that’s basically why there was no Tuesday Hot Coals

by ArikJames on Jun 8, 2011 4:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Based on this analysis and my experience drafting him in NHL 11 I absolutely agree. And to respond to your post below: I’d say that weight in and of itself is much less important than frame (although I do agree that frame is also overvalued to some extent).

by SmellOfVictory on Jun 7, 2011 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

i’d be ok with rattie, good passer it seems

by shep_ on Jun 8, 2011 2:20 PM PDT reply actions  

good ev/pp split also. but im thinking that ratties line got some soft minutes behind johansen and niedereiter maybe

by shep_ on Jun 8, 2011 2:25 PM PDT reply actions  

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