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Calgary Flames Prospects NHL Equivalencies: March Edition


The month of February was certainly interesting for both the big Flames and the prospects. The Flames kept on rolling to an extent, and the prospects, well, it's a mix of good news and bad news for them

Ryan Howse has kept rolling, as has Max Reinhart, and a few surprising players have taken a step back. Follow the jump to find out.

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A couple notes about the updated table. I've added a couple columns as you can see- "Prior NHLE Season", which is the pro-rated NHLE points from a month ago and "Difference", which is the difference between the current NHLE Season and the Prior NHLE Season.

I took John Ramage out because he really isn't someone who NHLE applies too. As more of a stay at home physical defenseman, points are not something you'll see a whole lot of out of him.

I also removed Bryan Cameron as he was sent down to the ECHL recently and wasn't doing much in the AHL either. He does have 2 goals in 2 games in the ECHL though.

Finally, Mitch Wahl (winner of the Chucko Award for best prospect last year) is still injured. This has been a rough season for the guy. 

(As a quick note, the equivalencies I used are as follows: SEL 0.78, WHL 0.30, AHL- 0.65*, WCHA and H-East 0.41)

Name Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM NHLE Goals NHLE A NHLE PTS NHLE SEASON Prior NHLE/Season Difference
Howse Chilliwack Bruins WHL 60 46 28 74 30 13.8 8.4 22.2 30.3 28.2 2.1
Erixon Skelleftea HC SEL 45 4 17 21 40 3.12 13.26 16.38 29.8 26.9 2.9
Reinhart Kootenay Ice WHL 63 31 39 70 39 9.3 11.7 21 27.3 26.5 0.8
Brodie Abbotsford Heat AHL 53 3 20 23 30 1.95 13 14.95 23.1 25.4 -2.3
Ferland Brandon Wheat Kings WHL 48 20 29 49 102 6 8.7 14.7 25.1 23.3 1.8
Holland Tri-City Americans WHL 60 20 35 55 20 6 10.5 16.5 22.6 23 -0.4
Bennett Vancouver Giants WHL 62 30 29 59 50 9 8.7 17.7 23.4 22.2 1.2
Nemisz Abbotsford Heat AHL 59 13 14 27 22 8.45 9.1 17.55 24.4 21.8 2.6
Bouma Abbotsford Heat AHL 53 11 8 19 51 7.15 5.2 12.35 19.1 20.7 -1.6
Arnold Boston College H-East 32 9 8 17 34 3.69 3.28 6.97 17.9 16.8 1.1
Wahl Abbotsford Heat AHL 17 1 4 5 8 0.65 2.6 3.25 15.7                          INJURED #VALUE!

 

Two players have really improved over the last month in these rankings- Erixon and Howse

Granted, Ryan Howse was already near the top, but he's increased his point production enought that in the NHL, pro-rated for a full season, it would amount to about two points. Not significant in and of itself, no. But when you consider that what you're really seeing change is his production pace, as opposed to just his point values, it matters a bit more.

Erixon is much the same, though his increased point production is a bit more significant as he's a defenseman. He's playing 19:42 a night for Skelleftea AIK (on a side note, I'd love a Skelleftea AIK jersey alsmost as much as a Dinamo Riga hat with horns) and putting up pretty decent points, given that he's playing against adults in a quality league. IGM Jay Feaster mentioned this at his trade deadline press conference yesterday, but I'd fully expect to see Tim Erixon challenge for a roster spot on the Flames at training camp this summer.

The real story here is T.J. Brodie however. Once playing dominantly in the AHL, his production has rapidly fallen off this last month. Before February he had 3 goals and 17 assists. In February he had 3 assists total. The last of those was scored on February 9th. It's hard to say what the root cause is, as the team's play as a whole has fallen off lately, but the fact is TJ Brodie is simply not producing like we had come to expect.

Below I've added top five rankings for the prospects listed. The rankings take into account expected NHL production in the near future and far future, current capability, and where the organization likely sees them.

1. Ryan Howse: Expected to be a top six player in the NHL eventually, given his goal scoring capabilities.

2. Tim Erixon: I'd look for him to slot in around a #3 or #4 defenseman in his NHL career. Giordano-lite, if you will.

3. T.J. Brodie: Despite current struggles, the Flames see him as a future offensive defenseman.

T-4. Greg Nemisz: I was never high on Nemisz- he played on stacked teams and put up cushy numbers because of that. The organization still likes him long term though. Projects to be a defensive forward.

T-4. Max Reinhart: I absolutely love this kid long term. He's second on the Kootenay Ice in points and is second in +/- as well, and just off of the lead for both. Just as important, he does this without a lot of help in recognized "skill" players. The guy who leads in points? Two years older and undrafted. Basically he thrives on just more experience and bulk. The player who leads in +/- is a year older as well. Reinhart projects as a two-way center- one who can handle the toughs but can turn around and score as well. Right now he just needs to bulk up.

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Ironically, I’ve become more and more dubious of Howse as the year has progressed. He puts up big numbers, but his team remains terrible and he was passed over for the Canadian Junior Team. His plus/minus has completely cratered again this season as well. He was also the prospect most reliant on the PP to score when I looked at guys last year.

Dominant players in junior tend to drag their with them even moreso than in the upper leagues. Howse’s incredible output suggests dominance, but there’s red flags everywhere otherwise.

I hope Im wrong.

by Kent Wilson on Mar 1, 2011 9:19 AM PST reply actions  

He might’ve been passed over by the Canadian Junior Team, but he made the camp if I recall correctly, and a 3rd rounder from a horrible team making it that far isn’t terrible. I guess I see his points as mostly “Good totals despite terrible terrible teammates”. It’s really hard to tell much of anything though with the lack of shooting/situational information given by the CHL.

by ArikJames on Mar 1, 2011 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Completely agree about young Maxwell. I’ve watched a couple more Ice games on the WHL website (you need an account, not sure if it’s free) and he’s looked good, save for a -3 in one. (For people who care: Shaw is broadcasting Kootenay’s next game on the 4th @ 7.)

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by Justin Azevedo on Mar 1, 2011 10:12 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Brodie, Howse, Nemisz

Don’t know if it’s causitive but I recall folk in Abbotsford saying that when he first got sent down Brodie was “hogging the puck” and that Playfair and Co. weren’t happy with his defensive zone play. Maybe play adjustments combined with team struggles are the reason for the drop off?

I’ve only seen Howse play twice but my thoughts after seeing him both times was basically that he has a plus shot but everything else just seemed average.

Nemisz, while it’s true that he played for stacked teams I’ve never held that against him, I mean whose to say that he wasn’t part of the reason it was stacked. He still seems like a pretty good (but all around unexceptional) hockey player. At this point I’d probably say his future is as the heir apparent to David Moss (big frame, 3rd liner that can fill in the top 6 in a pinch).

by Parallex on Mar 1, 2011 10:22 AM PST reply actions  

Agreed. I guess my point with complaining about Nemisz is that he’s not an NHL topliner, which a lot of less informed fans expect him to be since he was a 1st rounder. I don’t hold the stacked team against him personally or anything, it’s more of that he seems like a complimentary player who rounded out Hall+ quite well, rather than the actual talent. David Moss comparison is probably a good one.

Didn’t know that about Brodie, good to keep in mind.

The bits I’ve caught of Howse has him looking like pure offense and Kovalchuk-esque on defense. Not ideal, but it’s what the Flames could use.

by ArikJames on Mar 1, 2011 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Okay, just realized the table got cut off. I’ll post one…somewhere else when I get home.

by ArikJames on Mar 1, 2011 10:43 AM PST reply actions  

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