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Thursdays Hot Coals - The Deju Vu Flames

Remember last season's slow start? Remember how from Oct to Dec the Flames went off a cliff only to recover and post one of the best NHL records from Jan 2011 to season end? Remember how it wasn't enough because of all those early losses.

Remember how in that sea of losses in Oct-Dec the painful fact settled in after the season ended that if the Flames had posted just 3 wins out of a lot of very winnable games they could have actually finished 4th overall in the West with 100 points. A staggering point total that really illustrated just how strong their play had been for the 2011 part of the 2010-11 season. 

Is the reality that here we are, a mere 14 games in and 6-7-1 worrisome? Last season 14 games in the Flames record was 7-7-0. It is all too familiar. Although we do have a new motto for this year "Every game matters." It should have been "Every shift matters"

A little bit of a rant after the jump and your daily links eventually come up at the bottom. 

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As far as being a fan goes I think I am one of the smiley ones. I love my team and by and large I take it pretty easy on them. Earlier in the season in what became a Flames Fan townhall that Edmonton Oiler fans will never forget, Jay Feaster said he felt that there were three types of Flames fans. 

"We know that you reside in one of three groups - you love everything that we do no matter what happens; you are loyal but frustrated; or you think that we're total idiots that have never known what we're doing and never will know what we're doing.

"We hope that the last group is the smallest. If you're in that group, I'll meet you in the back alley in a couple of minutes." Jay Feaster - September 2 - 2011

I don't quite like the pigeon hole myself. I consider myself somewhere between the first two.

My instinct is to defend what occurs but in the back of my mind I sometimes have doubts. I give the team the benefit of the doubt and do not consider myself blindly loyal. I defended Darryl Sutter's trade of Dion Phaneuf at the time but in the back of my mind I was very concerned. The Rangers trade was too much, I could not defend it, even as much as I wanted to and the Staios Oiler trade was flat out drunk dialing - I had to speak out against that one. No matter how much of a nice guy Steve Staios may be. A line was crossed trading with the Oilers in a trade that was not even remotely balanced. NHL 12 probably would have blocked it. 

At the end of it all though I am a loyal fan. I have been through much worse. The Flames still have several good pieces, even if you don't consider Iggy. I have more reason to be optimistic today than I did in the 7 year dark age and I am glad about that. 

But two seasons back to back with the same pattern is not acceptable.

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The day I look forward to the most before the season actually starts is the day the NHL schedule is released. I get impatient for hockey to start and I don't follow prospects anymore, so I look forward to this schedule. I print it out and then beer in hand, well actually usually coffee, I go through it putting in W's and L's for the whole season. 

No fancy stats here. Just old hockey fan, coffee in hand, reflexively calling games based on whether teams got stronger or weaker in their off-season moves relative to the Flames. The Flames got slightly weaker this year, I don't think many dispute this but so did other teams in the West. I look at back to back games, I consider road trips, all in all I just let the neurons naturally fire away in that holistic way and come to a instant conclusion in a half second or so on each game. Kind of the same way I pick my fantasy teams. 

At the bottom I add it all up and see if the Flames have the Wins. I don't predict OT points, that comes out in the wash. I sit down to watch the season and as each month goes by I compare my results and to see if the Flames are ahead or behind in the playoff race. This season I don't expect the Flames to beat the Penguins, Capitals, Blackhawks, Canucks and so on and if they do, bonus.

My expectation at this point was 8-6. Last year the Flames had a tougher 14 games to start the season. The concern is that this is a repeat of last year and it is flat-out unacceptable.

Now the Flames are staring right into the Indian Head in Chicago to get on track. Just to get back into it they are going to have to beat an elite team at least twice by my oracle method along with consistently taking out the usual lower ranked teams and getting the best of the other bubble teams at least 50% of the time.

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There have been some terrible games and that is fine, it happens, look at elite teams like the Canucks and Capitals, happens to them too. 

Really what is concerning me is that there has not really been a game that I consider really good even in the Flames 6 wins. That is my concern at this point. There has been great individual performances by players. Henrik Karlsson in Buffalo. Jay Bouwmeester against the Wild the other night. Kipper has had several strong games but I don't see a strong holistic team out there, even the Detriot win to me looked more like the Red Wings in disarray not the Flames running them over. The Flames are not the only team to spank the Wings this season after all. 

Enough of a rant. The Flames have got to get winning and they have got to prove they are NOT on track for a November like last year. Friggin shave the mustaches if need be, get in the game, learn the lesson from last year.

Making or missing the playoffs rests in the month of November just as much as any other month in the year. The Flames have already used their Mulligan in the month of October.

"Every shift matters" 

/end rant

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  • Little Flames reflection by the (Hockey Writers)
  • In the category of no kidding Sherlock - the Flames horrific Power Play is discussed in the (Montreal Gazette)
  • More of the Flames woes on the goal scoring front from (The Toronto Sun)
  • When things are bad it is time to do what Oiler fans have done for many years, turn your eyes away. Gaze with optimism, joy and infinite hope on the little Sparks from the draft. The dream of one of these little sparks catching on and turning into a great Flame is as comforting as sitting in front of a fireplace on a cold winter day. Kent Wilson of Flames Nation to the rescue for your early season Flames depression.
  • Ever wonder what people were talking about last year when TB went to the Conference Finals and you heard all this talk of a 1-3-1 trap system? Doesn't get more obvious than it is here. HIlarious how the Flyers freeze to really reveal the lack of forecheck.  (Puck Daddy) 
  • There is a worse power-play in the NHL? Good thing we face-off against these guys tomorrow / sarcasm. (Puck Daddy)
  • Former Flame Theoren Fleury wades into that ugly Penn State mess (TSN) via Twitter which is provoking property damage now on the streets (ESPN) No arrests occurred.

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Sobering Thought of the Day:

1: Last year spot #9 took 95 points
2: Assume then that 96 is approx. how many points are going to be needed just to squeek into the playoffs
3: The Flames through 14 games have 13 points

Conclusion: The Flames likely need to have a record of 41-26-1 or better from here on out.

by Parallex on Nov 10, 2011 10:18 AM PST reply actions  

So early for us to be talking about this but really we all know the team has no margin to slide given its composition…

by Mitch Smith on Nov 10, 2011 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes doable… but it needs to start happening right now (and I’d appreciate a little margin for error).

by Parallex on Nov 10, 2011 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

By no margin I mean that any sustained losing streak can finish them. Unlike the Bruins or Canucks who we all know can go on a sustained run to make up for a lackluster start. They can beat any team in the league.

by Mitch Smith on Nov 10, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

our lord and saviour PAUL BYRON has been called up too. hagman’s on waivers. instead of, you know, pl3.

by Justin Azevedo on Nov 10, 2011 10:22 AM PST reply actions  

Really? I’ll get another link in there…

by Mitch Smith on Nov 10, 2011 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Really, Feaster needs to stop listening to Sutter. I’d take Hagman over PLLL or Kostopolis any day of the week.

by Parallex on Nov 10, 2011 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

If they used Hagman with any sort of consistency he’d prove his worth (not huge, but enough). He’s been mishandled by the Flames in the last 2 years and they’re willing to throw him to the scrap heap instead of trying to turn him into an asset. I don’t ever expect much out of him but he’s capable of playing a role on a fringe team, no doubt. Kostopolous was a terrible acquisition as well seeing as how Abby is full of grinding forwards this year and last. P3L…. well…. was a very Sutter-like pickup and is basically useless, waste of a 5th round pick.

by Scott Lepp on Nov 10, 2011 5:16 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Hagmans been scratched inexplicably this year. Its ridiculous and proof positive of Sutter full on raging stupidity.

by Jeremywilhelm on Nov 10, 2011 5:24 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Hagman looked good-what happened?

Hagman in preseason games and the few regular season games was pretty good-I bet he criticized Sutter and he sits out-not sure what else might have happened. Olez in Chicago has the same fate. Maybe there could be a swap there.

Sutter likes checkers, so the fourth line is right out of 1980s NHL. Speed is the new NHL-youth-why bother having a fighter-but Lebond plays ahead of Hagman?

 The way Rene Borque was rumoured to be traded sure flattened his game-not the best poker face=probably will go to Toronto for a roll of tape and some [Fleecy} fabric softner as we are taken to the cleaners, hung out to dry, and it all comes out in the wash of a season.

by budgie d on Nov 10, 2011 6:02 PM PST reply actions  

The Brent Sutter Surliness Metre makes its triumphant return
http://jointherush.blogspot.com/

I was gonna delete the site the other day but I couldn’t bring myself to do it.

by Hayley on Nov 11, 2011 7:10 AM PST reply actions  

I have no clue why my exclamation marks are showing up like that

by Hayley on Nov 11, 2011 7:11 AM PST reply actions  

concerned

I am not so much concerned about making the playoffs or not. If we do we probably get bounced in a hurry by a Vancouver or Chicago, but that aside I am worried we will pull the same kind of thing that we did last year.

We will be doing just well enough to not use Feb and the trade deadline to our favor. Our tradeable assets will continue to degrade over time as we stretch out our necks for that 7th or 8th playoff spot only to fall just short or barely make it and have the guillotine drop.

I want the Flames to succeed but I just don’t know that the current incarnation of this team can do it consistently enough to be a long shot contender even.

by xis10ce on Nov 11, 2011 10:14 AM PST reply actions  

hey blackhawks fan here.

Just skimmed till I saw Theo Fleury mentioned. I chuckled a little, then remembered he was actually good for you guys. Then I got said. Anyway, good luck tonight. Hoping for an entertaining, injury-free game and whatnot.

by pb5689 on Nov 11, 2011 1:17 PM PST reply actions  

Hoping for the same here. The Hawks are one of my favourite non-Flames teams, so it should be an enjoyable match.

by SmellOfVictory on Nov 11, 2011 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

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