Feaster Feature Pt: 2: The Indirect Results
Last week I wrote a little bit on Mr. Feaster and his managing history/style, especially in regards to trading and asset management, but I'd like to address a couple of consequences that arise from the replacement of Darryl Sutter.
There's two things that I think we'll see pay off long term, partly due to Jay Feaster being the interim GM and partly due to Darryl Sutter not being the GM anymore: media relations and players willingness to sign with the Calgary Flames. Follow the jump and I'll break both down.
Long Term Payoff #1: (The Obvious One) Media Relations
To put it nicely, Darryl Sutter had a combative relationship with the media, and a complete lack of a relationship with "new media". Jay Feaster? Well, he's been incredibly candid in his pressers already and has a history of communicating with blogs (I seem to recall Bolt Prospects occasionally talked to him) as well as encouraging the rest of his office to do the same (email me Mr. Feaster!).
Darryl? Not so much. I'd be surprised if he ever looked at Flames blogs or twitter accounts. I'm not sure if the official Flames.com "blogs" (though the word hardly fits) ever even had an interview that wasn't just a transcription of a video interview or something. This will be good: if he's more open with the press, we get more information. The more information we have available, the more feedback we can give.
Long Term Payoff #2: (Okay this one is pretty obvious too) Prospective Player Relations (Not to be confused with prospect relations)
Remember the Andrew Ference trade of 2006? The one that saw him sitting on the side of the road in Western NY after unloading his own bags (after signing with the Flames at a hometown discount, no less)? I bet Andrew Ference and all his professional friends do. Or how about Darryl Sutter trading Brandon Prust to the Phoenix Coyotes, making nice and signing him back in the off-season, then trading him again to the Rangers while making him and Olli Jokinen play in a game knowing they were about to be traded? Bet the house that Prust and all his buddies do too.
Darryl Sutter made it clear he had little regard for the sacrifices made by other players. I'm not saying you shouldn't make the deals you need to make, but there's a line between trading someone and treating them like crap. Sutter crossed that line so many times. How we ever managed to sign anyone these past few years is beyond me. Oh right- the gratuitious handing out of NTC's and NMC's. There's a reason the Flames have eleven right now: it's the only way players would sign with them.
Now that Darryl Sutter is gone, this will change. A lot. Jay Feaster has a reputation as a guy to sign for and stay with. Take note of the Vincent Lecavalier situation back in the early 2000's. Lecavalier was holding out, then fighting with John Tortorella. Rick Dudley had put together a package for spare parts from Toronto including Antropov (whooo!) and then-AGM Feaster stepped in to mediate the situation as well as prevent the trade from occurring. In the long run, Lecavalier was signed, he was prevented from being traded, then finally his relationship with Torts was mediated. This sort of stuff gets GMs a good reputation. More importantly, it gets them a good reputation with players. Would you want to play for a guy who'll trade you on the side of the road or a guy who will fight to keep you around? Guess which one most players will take any day of the week.
I have no doubt Feaster has and will have his faults; right now, it's just nice to look at the brighter and better qualities (or as Ken King would say, "Different") for now. Doom and gloom has been the mood for far too long.
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Number 2 is silly. Darryl was a lot of things, but I can’t recall him missing too many times on free agents he wanted. Really only Higgins comes to mind, and the Gio to Russia. And the evil Darryl Sutter, who players hate, still managed to sign Gio again.
Players have loved coming to Calgary since Darryl took over. Tangs and Olli returned because of the org Darryl built, really. You always here of the stories about how the Flames set up Skype for players they trade for and do the little things for their families. Darryl was also able to sign JBlow without giving him a crazy term. No, Darryl Sutters problem was not his inability to get players to sign in this city. In fact, that was probably his biggest strength.
I know what you are saying about the NTC being given away like candy, but if anything that shows that players wanted to sign here and STAY here, because the organization was so good. And Darryl was a trader so the agents wanted some control. But to say that Feaster, who takes players to arbitration and then wonders why they sour on his organization, is going to be better at retaining players than Darryl because he gave Vinny one of the worst contracts of all time strikes me as strange.
I think the whole thing about him not missing on UFA’s he wanted is largely due to him having terrible taste in free agents. Aside from Bouwmeester, who we broke the bank on as well as pulled the “having Jarome Iginla chat him up” card, very few of Sutters free agent signings are guys who are in high demand. Moreover they’re frequently guys who have previously played in Calgary and know the area/have family in the area/are related to the Sutters.
Fact is, guys with families rarely want to move unless the organization is just terrible. Like, Islanders bad. Hence why they’d want a NMC to sign: not because they love being there, but so that the management can’t force them to move their families.
Furthermore, Tangs and Olli returned for totally different reasons. Will they say so? No, but Tangs clearly returned because nobody else was willing to take a chance on him (see: Morrison, Brendan) and Olli returned because Darryl Sutter stood outside his house with a boombox playing “In Your Eyes” and a bevy of clauses and bills taped into a trench coat.
That being said, you may be right. All I’ve got are a couple of completely off the record statements by local AHL players; I hardly have my fingers on the heartbeat of Calgary or Darryl’s relationship with players. If someone knows more about how players viewed Sutter, please share.
i agree with arik on the “why olli and tangs returned” (mostly the olli part cause there’s no fucking way in hell ANYONE else would have given him 6mil over 2 with a NMC, so i’m sure it was a no-brainer for the big bodied finn --and i’m pretty sure if darryl had low-balled the offer to something like 3mil over 2, olli would’ve still jumped at it).
i would think that players wanting to play in calgary would have less to do with darryl and more to do with the city. ian white had some pretty brutal things to say when he got shipped off, and gio got offered double-to-triple league minimum as an unproven 24-year-old RFA so i’m sure he was happy to take it.
I know what you are saying about the NTC being given away like candy, but if anything that shows that players wanted to sign here and STAY here, because the organization was so good.
i disagree here completely. a NTC/NMC gives you all the cards when it comes to your future, as a player, and if you can get one you take it (obviously). it’s probably almost as valuable as dollars in a contract, cause it allows the player to choose where and when he moves. infact, maybe players wanted to sign in calgary BECAUSE they knew that daz was handing ‘em out in surplus —-that the word on the street was "bargain with the flames and you’re golden."
by walkinvisible on Jan 3, 2011 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
Did some looking, and it appears that Feaster wasn’t responsible for the Vinny contract. I think he quits like two days before (maybe after) the signing, so it that looks to me that he didn’t like the deal anymore than I do. So Ill take that point back.
Still, not in love with Feaster taking players to arb, and I still don’t think Darryl was a major detriment to signing here. Ian White was a pussy who couldn’t take the pressure of the market. That’s Darryl? I don’t buy that.
The NMC are insane, I get that, but lets take a step back here and actually look at what they have done in reality. As far as we know they havent stopped us, on our end, from making any trade. The rumoured Reggie/Savard swap was vetoed by Savard. I don’t know how many guys want to stay in the city when things are going this way. The NMC just means you have to buy them a fancy rolex or new car to get them to waive it.
In fact, Kotalik actually used his NMC to veto a trade to come here!
In reality, Stajans term makes him untradeable. JBlow could be traded buy not to a limited market. It would be impossible to trade Kotalik even if he had no protection, and some team may come in and pick up Olli at the deadline.It probably only really matters in regards to Jarome and Kipper. Iggy I really don’t see moving from the City, but who knows? Kipper, again, who knows? So those two guys, who give the greatest return and are supposedly the most tradeable, have NMC which means it probably limits the return you can get (ala Heatley) but they are of the calibre of player that they would have received NMC from whatever team they had signed with.
I know it’s not good having 11 on the team, but I don’t think it’s the end of the world, either. The fact Kotalik and Stajan are on the roster irks me more, and their NMC’s are really redundant anyways.
by Domebeers.com on Jan 3, 2011 11:41 PM PST up reply actions
‘Jblow could be traded BUT ONLY to a limited market’
by Domebeers.com on Jan 3, 2011 11:44 PM PST up reply actions
I'm in disagreement with the majority of this post.
and rather than going through it point by point, I’ll summarize by asking this:
Aren’t we getting a little ahead of ourselves here?
“Long-term payoff” – We have little idea if Feaster will even be around come summer.
Looking beyond that critical issue, the majority of the rest of it is based on speculation, and speculation that isn’t based on anything but further speculation.
We have no idea if him being more chatty and agreeable with the media will result in us getting anymore info, don’t know if that info will lead to “us” being more informed, and quite doubtably will result in us having more welcomed feedback.

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