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Flames Sign Native Calgarian, Former Oiler Ryan Stone


Ryan Stone

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Mar 20, 1985


 The Flames announced the signing of Calgary native Ryan Stone to a one-year, two-way contract at league minimum this evening. Stone scored six assists and was +2 in 27 games with the Oilers last season, during which he suffered a major knee injury that required two surgeries to repair, but it was his underlying numbers that impressed the guys over at The Copper & Blue, who have previously compared him to Curtis Glencross, another former Oiler who defected South to Calgary:
Ryan Stone has much the same reputation with the fans as Curtis Glencross did. To the fans of advanced stats, he's one of the few Oilers that had the puck moving in the right direction last season, albeit in a limited amount of time. For the fans of the traditional view of the game, he was full of piss and vinegar, second on the team in hits per game, and always-willing to stick up for his teammates. For fans concerned about the salary cap, Stone should have a very reasonable cap hit, and reasonable contracts are something the cap-strapped Oilers lack.

There's another team just down the highway that is also lacking reasonable contracts and the last time this happened, they swooped in to pull a Group 6 UFA out from under the Oilers' noses, and this time the player is Calgary-born and raised. How Steve Tambellini and his newly-found clarity handle this situation may give us hints as to how the rest of the off-season will go, and if Stone ends up a wing on the third line for the Flames, the teeth-gnashing will begin anew.

Derek Zona also had this to say about Stone in a late-season update on the forward's condition:

Stone wasn't a world-beater this season, with only six assists in 27 games, no one was mistaking him for Ales Hemsky. But Stone brought an element to his game that the Oilers lacked - physical play with on-ice awareness. Even though he only appeared in 27 games, Stone is still 9th on the Oilers in hits with 54. He doesn't possess great foot speed, but he's smart enough to read the play and understands where he should be on the ice in order to avoid getting beaten because of speed.

Stone played and average of ten minutes at ES per game in the Oilers' bottom six and appeared to have secured a position on Edmonton's third line prior to suffering his second knee ailment in January, a role he could possibly slide into in Calgary with the losses of Nigel DawesEric Nystrom, and Jamal Mayers. A bottom-six forward capable of outplaying the opposition for cheap is always valuable, and, although Stone played on the wing in Edmonton, I like the possibility of him centering a potential line of Ivanans and Jackman much better than I like the possibility of Backlund being dragged down by those two . Kent has Stone pegged as AHL-bound barring injury, especially with the likes of Craig Conroy and Brett Sutter still reportedly in the mix, but at $500K he's a good bet to provide value for his contract if/when he's healthy, and is nonetheless a good buy for the cash-strapped Flames. 

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Looks pretty good

The funny thing is he was 9TH on the Oilers in hits with 54 in only 27 games .
What the heck was the rest of the team doing all season long ? Now if only his knee holds up if it does and he plays like he did Sutter looks a bit better

Show me the CUP

by Mashman on Jul 7, 2010 12:37 AM PDT reply actions  

“Hits” is a worthless metric. Every arena in the NHL has a different definition of what qualifies as a “Hit” and their actual impact on a game is debateable.

I dunno, his guy looks like the #13 forward/AHL guy to me. By several accounts he’s slow on his skates (which I’ve also heard of Jackman and Ivanans) I don’t know about you all but an entire line, even just the fourth, with notable footspeed issues strikes me as a bad thing (Particularily on the road where favorable match-ups are more difficult). Nothing to get even mildly excited about.

by Parallex on Jul 7, 2010 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hits

In a comparative sense – team to team – stats like hits, takeaways and giveaways are as you say close to useless as their is no consistent standard from rink to rink . They are however good for measuring a player against the rest of his team. While Stone’s 2 “hits” per game may or may not be good – the important thing to note is that relative to his teammates he is a more frequent hitter.

Speed – I’m with ya brother. Slugs need not apply.

by PrairieStew on Jul 7, 2010 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bottom six players with good foot speed are always preferable to the alternative, but in a limited minutes role, speed isn’t everything. For a guy like Stone whose ceiling is that of a third or fourth liner, it’s nearly a given that there will be holes in his game.

by Hayley on Jul 7, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure speed isn’t everything but given certain of Butter’s proclavities (i.e. 4th liners sent out for O-zone draws) I’d rather we have folk that are able to backcheck swiftly.

by Parallex on Jul 7, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

…but if they catch you, OH BROTHER!!!

by TheBurnward on Jul 7, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

If he can even come close to matching what Glencross has done since joining Calgary, it’s a heck of a signing. Energy, size, grit at 500k per? Sure, why not!

by TheBurnward on Jul 7, 2010 12:47 AM PDT reply actions  

Can’t possibly do any harm!

by Colin S on Jul 7, 2010 2:07 AM PDT reply actions  

options

With Sutter, Cunning and now Stone , ( and the goons) at basically league minimum, you will see one goon and one of these guys on your roster. Injuries will likely bring the others up, so that the draft class of 08 spend the entire year in Abby.

by PrairieStew on Jul 7, 2010 7:13 AM PDT reply actions  

Foot speed is nice for a player to have, so is size though. Many small players make it in the NHL, they learn to win pucks

I agree that slower players have it tough though, but it’s not impossible. You have to be able to win pucks back one way or another, either you beat them to the puck or you beat them at the puck. That’s captured by scoring chances (or shot measures as a proxy). IIRC Stone killed in both categories for the Oil, granted in limited and easy icetime and relative to the rest of the team so that’s not say much for Edmonton.

But for 500K on a two-way deal? How can you lose? It’s no-risk and all-reward. It’s like taking your chances with a third rounder at Kabanov, and this is something we were all clamoring for Sutter to do. It’s leaps and bounds ahead of signing Ivanans, which is no-risk and no-reward (kinda like using said third rounder to pick Max Reinhart).

by R O on Jul 7, 2010 10:41 PM PDT reply actions  

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