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Free Agency Open Thread

You know the drill: Who goes where and for how much? Early on in the first day of free agency, Sergei Gonchar has signed with the Ottawa Senators (3 years/5.5M) and Martin Biron has joined the Rangers (1 year/875K), while defenceman Andrej Meszaros has been traded to Philadelphia for a second-round pick. In Flames news, Nigel Dawes has cleared waivers and will be bought out as per the Herald's Vicki Hall on Twitter, and it has just been confirmed that Alex Tanguay has signed a one-year deal with the Flames for $1.7M (via La Presse). Unfortunately I will be working all day as of 12PM, so I can't guarantee instant updates, but I'll do my best--stay tuned!

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I’m going to wait for TSN to confirm the Tanguay signing, but as-is I am optimistic about what he can still do.

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by Justin Azevedo on Jul 1, 2010 9:42 AM PDT reply actions  

And there we go. Cool.

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by Justin Azevedo on Jul 1, 2010 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also: How in flying fuck did Dawes not get picked up? The guy got 15 goals for 850k!

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by Justin Azevedo on Jul 1, 2010 9:43 AM PDT reply actions  

I know. I don’t get it at all.

by Hayley on Jul 1, 2010 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Very glad to see Tanguay back in red. I’ve always liked him and think hope he brings some life back to Iggy’s game.

According to the NHL.com FA Blog, rumors are swirling about Calgary being in talks with Beantown regarding Savard coming out west. Would be interesting if Flames can dump some of the high price D for him maybe.

Not sure it’d be the best move they can make, I’ve always been very ambivalent about Savard. He seems to have great potential but just coasts sometimes (like when he was last here).

by Andrew S. on Jul 1, 2010 11:21 AM PDT reply actions  

Ohh…“*” around words makes them bold. Apologies for messing up the thread all. But yes, indifferent.

by TheBurnward on Jul 1, 2010 12:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Good move by Pitt to get Michalek from Phoenix for 30% less/year than Gonchar (a lesser/older player) got from Ottawa.

Matchsticks and Gasoline

by maimster on Jul 1, 2010 12:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Other comments…

Lot of money for Maholtra in VCR, although he’s decent.
Ellis didn’t last long in Montreal.
Amazing Lydman is still moving around for relatively large dollars this many years after leaving Flames.
I like Colby Armstrong, but as always the Leafs overpaid.

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by maimster on Jul 1, 2010 12:26 PM PDT reply actions  

jokinen ?

what an amazingly frightening rumour ?

by PrairieStew on Jul 1, 2010 1:10 PM PDT reply actions  

On a lighter note: I discovered I have TSN2.

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by Justin Azevedo on Jul 1, 2010 1:14 PM PDT reply actions  

“It is rare that I am afraid to report a trade rumor, but what Calgary may be about to do is terrifying.”

source: Eklund’s twitter….

Gotta love Sutter…

by mikeh14 on Jul 1, 2010 1:16 PM PDT reply actions  

That’s what I want to hear from the guy who is batshit insane.

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by Justin Azevedo on Jul 1, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

lets say a Savard to Calgary deal happened.
What would you have to offer?

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by bestbostonsports on Jul 1, 2010 1:25 PM PDT reply actions  

I’m betting Regehr

by mikeh14 on Jul 1, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

That deal sucks for the Bruins.
Just dont trade for Savard.

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by bestbostonsports on Jul 1, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

~ You can take Kris Chucko. ~

Regehr is the best shutdown DMan in the division, and Dawes/Glencross are good guys on cheap contracts who bitchslap 3rd liners.

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by Justin Azevedo on Jul 1, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

good, keep him, just dont trade for Savard

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by bestbostonsports on Jul 1, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

We won’t. Especially not now.

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by Justin Azevedo on Jul 1, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

good.
Why do you guys want Savard anyways, wasnt he run out of Calgary?

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by bestbostonsports on Jul 1, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was a unique situation. Back in 2001 (Maybe 02? Can’t remember) Greg Gilbert was the coach. Savard was a lot more immature then, and would frequently spar with the coach publicly. He’s learned and matured, and is a lot better now that he is less self centred.

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by Justin Azevedo on Jul 1, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

OK Ive heard stuff about this before but never knew what really happened. There was actully an article in SI about it once but I never found much on it.
And hes never been like that in Boston.

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by bestbostonsports on Jul 1, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, when he was traded it served as a wake-up call. I think he was under the impression he was untouchable, and then bam! he was gone. He is definitely no longer like that, as you said.

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by Justin Azevedo on Jul 1, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder if thats whats happening with the rumors with the Bruins

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by bestbostonsports on Jul 1, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think that the org is blaming him for that 2MM call. Besides, you guys are extremely deep down the middle. I think if I was in your position, I would trade Savard, extend Bergeron and take the risk of having Seguin on the 3rd line.

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by Justin Azevedo on Jul 1, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

But Krejci is coming off surgery too. If hes not the same all of a sudden we are weak in center.
and the 2MM call I always blame on the coach

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by bestbostonsports on Jul 1, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

What did Krejci hurt?

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by Justin Azevedo on Jul 1, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wrist.
He came back from hip surgery last year and was not the same for a few months.

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by bestbostonsports on Jul 1, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would rather take a risk on the Hip/Wrist injury then a brain injury, especially with the age difference.

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by Justin Azevedo on Jul 1, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Savards gonna be fine.
Hes recovered from that

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by bestbostonsports on Jul 1, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess we wont know either way until they actually play. But it’s an envious position you guys are in.

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by Justin Azevedo on Jul 1, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes. I think the Bruins can be a top-3 contender.
Without Savard, I question a playoff spot.

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by bestbostonsports on Jul 1, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder what’s going through Iggy’s head right now

by mikeh14 on Jul 1, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

REC'D

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by KingJafi on Jul 1, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder if Joel Otto is still around

by mikeh14 on Jul 1, 2010 1:32 PM PDT reply actions  

So we now have 3 million, 3.5 million, 4.5 million and 1.7 million down the middle. Like, what the hell Daz?

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by Justin Azevedo on Jul 1, 2010 1:38 PM PDT reply actions  

and the 1.7 is probably the most likely to produce….

by mikeh14 on Jul 1, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

The sad thing is you are probably right.

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by Justin Azevedo on Jul 1, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sutter is just wow. You guys should go string him up

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by Chuck Diesel on Jul 1, 2010 1:38 PM PDT reply actions  

I don’t doubt there are some in the city that would willingly do that.

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by Justin Azevedo on Jul 1, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

over at PPP we think you should 1. hang him 2. riot 3. burn the saddledome. This is just unacceptable.

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by Chuck Diesel on Jul 1, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, I’ve already suggested the 3rd option. What a fucking joke.
(you can use that-
“What a fucking Joke”
-Justin Azevedo, Flames Fan)

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by Justin Azevedo on Jul 1, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

might want to change the quote slightly…

"What a fucking Joke"
- Flames Fans everywhere

by mikeh14 on Jul 1, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

“What a fucking Joke”
- Everyone on the planet not named Sutter or King

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by Justin Azevedo on Jul 1, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have delivered your sentiments.

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by Chuck Diesel on Jul 1, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

FUCK YOU DAZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU!!!!!!

YOU ARENT GETTING YOUR FIRST ROUND PICK BACK. YOU AREN’T GETTING RID OF KOTALIK MY BALLS. THE JOKER WAS A JOKE WHEN HE WAS HERE. CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME HOW DAZ STILL HAS A JOB. HE’S GONE OFF THE DEEP END.

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by KingJafi on Jul 1, 2010 1:46 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

As angry as I am right now, it is nowhere close to this level. haha

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by Justin Azevedo on Jul 1, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh man, Kent must be leveling a torrent of obscenities right now.

by Parallex on Jul 1, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did Daz just have some curious fetish as to what a Tanguay-Joker-Iginla line would look like? Listening to the Fan is funny cause Kerr and crew actually have to act like this isn’t completely fucking insane.

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by KingJafi on Jul 1, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think I’m still in the ‘shock and disbelief’ stage…

by Andrew S. on Jul 1, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's Back.

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by KingJafi on Jul 1, 2010 1:56 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Since the Finns are naturally talented goaltenders, maybe he’ll be Kippers new backup.

by Firefox444 on Jul 1, 2010 2:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Note to my fellow Flames fans:

Do you guys and girls realize how much of a laughing stock the Flames franchise is atm?

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by KingJafi on Jul 1, 2010 2:08 PM PDT reply actions  

The Flames are my western conference team

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by bestbostonsports on Jul 1, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

That deal sucks for you

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by bestbostonsports on Jul 1, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Holy shit! Hayley swore!

I’m already on step 6. See you at the end of the rainbow!

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by Justin Azevedo on Jul 1, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who did the Joker’s wife get in a fight with on her way out the door of the Saddledome? Oops…

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by KingJafi on Jul 1, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Classic. Lol.

RT @Kent_Wilson Well Sutter. Congratulations. You jumped the Shark.

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by KingJafi on Jul 1, 2010 2:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Hmm, my animal reference would have involved a dog and copulation. With a reference to multiples.

by TheBurnward on Jul 1, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know what’s funny too. Not once has Daz tried to bring Andrew Ference back. Oh yeah, that’s right cause when he gives up good players he doesn’t get those ones back….

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by KingJafi on Jul 1, 2010 2:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Haha Jermaine-
“I haven’t talked to the man on the street, because it is likely to be violent.”

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by Justin Azevedo on Jul 1, 2010 2:18 PM PDT reply actions  

please tell me this is a joke.

"The hard... is what makes it great."

by Jjjsixsix on Jul 1, 2010 2:48 PM PDT reply actions  

This is an excellent deal, his extensive post-season experience will come in handy as the Flames make a long playoff run.

/then I wake up

by Firefox444 on Jul 1, 2010 2:58 PM PDT reply actions  

HAHAHAHA!

I’m living in China right now and just woke up…fired up the internet…hit up ol’ TSN.CA, and BOOM!!!! INSTANT FACEPALM!!! Ah reality, you truly can be stranger than fiction can’t you, you little bitch.

by TheBurnward on Jul 1, 2010 4:03 PM PDT reply actions  

I also just woke up and saw that first thing :( Tanguay eased the blow slightly……very very very slightly.

by Colin S on Jul 1, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

“You know (Darryl), just when I think you couldn’t possibly be any dumber, you go and do something like this…and TOTALLY REDEEM YOURSELF!”

by TheBurnward on Jul 1, 2010 4:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Nystrom signed with Minnesota for 4.2m/3yr :(

by Colin S on Jul 1, 2010 5:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Sadness, miss you Nyzerman!

But… I wouldn’t have wanted the Flames to pay that much, 1.4M per is a lot of dough for a 4th line guy.

by Parallex on Jul 1, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah it is, too bad.

by Colin S on Jul 1, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can deal with re-acquiring Jokinen, but I am really disappointed in losing Nystrom. Hugely underrated guy, and I am betting will be wearing a C for the Wild before this contract expires.

by Resolute on Jul 1, 2010 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Would you have signed Nystrom at $1.4MM?

I don’t know that he can step above the fourth line. When we’re buying out contracts like Dawes (!!!) we’d better be damn sure Nystrom can play third in the LW batting order before paying him that level of $.

by R O on Jul 1, 2010 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would have. Dude scored 11 goals playing half the year with a bum wing. He’s got the heart, leadership and desire that many have argued the team as a whole lacks.

IMO, if Nystrom was healthy last year, he’d be making quite a bit more than $1.4 million this. Especially given what Manny Malholtra got from Vancouver.

by Resolute on Jul 1, 2010 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn, I liked Nystrom.

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