Trade Possibility: Nathan Horton (RW-FLA)
Drafted third overall in 2003, Ontario native Nathan Horton has become a dependable 40+ point scorer for the Florida Panthers, who are reportedly ready to part ways with the 25-year-old right winger and the three years and $14M remaining on his six-year contract. Horton's best seasons came in 2005-06 and 2007-08, when he accumulated 62 points and was +15 in both seasons.
His counting stats have dipped recently, however, and he has missed thirty-two games due to injury over the past two seasons, including seventeen with a broken leg last season. Horton scored 20-37-57 in 65 games last season and was -1 while shooting 12.6%, a career-low SH% for the winger, who has enjoyed success in that department over the duration of his career. The year before, he scored 22-23-45 and was -5 in 67 games. Nothing to sneeze at to be certain, but probably not full value for his annual $4M cap hit, which explains why the Panthers could be looking to ship him out.
On special teams, Horton played the second most PP time of all Panthers forwards at 237:48, about 3:39 PP minutes per game, but scored only 7PPG and 11PPP. He played 76:37 in SH TOI, about 1:10/game, and chipped in with two short-handed goals.
Horton's underlying stats may lend a little more credence to his salary, however. Horton played the second toughest minutes amongst all Panther forwards, and had the best Corsi rating relative to his Quality of Competition in the same group. He scored 2.58 ES points/60, leading the forward corps in that department, and the Panthers scored 3.43 goals/60 with Horton on the ice, the most of any Florida forward, but also allowed the second-most at 3.19 GA/60, which probably has something to do with his circumstances and the opposition he faced on a regular basis. On a team where the easiest zone start amongst all regular forwards was just 50.0% (belonging to former Flame Cory Stillman), Horton started in the offensive zone on 46.2% of his shifts beginning in faceoffs, and finished there on 51.5% of them.
The Panthers did get outshot with Horton in the ice--allowing 31.9 shots/60 while generating 26.2--and as such, his possession figures this past season aren't anything special ( Shots F/A: 435/556, Shots%: .449, Fenwick%: .464 Corsi%: .465) with a PDO of 103.8. Horton's underlying stats make me wonder to what extent he is being helped along by noted tough minutes out-scorer Stephen Weiss, who is comparable to a younger Daymond Langkow, and the circumstances associated with playing in the Southeast Division--not that the Northwest is much better these days.
The Flames likely don't and won't have the cap space or the assets to acquire Horton, as Sutter has stated that he doesn't wish to part with any more draft picks in an interview last week, and I should hope that the majority of the organizations' younger prospects are considered 'untouchables.' That leaves roster players and older prospects as possible trading chips; the Panthers have a fairly young blueline, and as Robert suggested in his piece earlier this week, pawning Cory Sarich off on a team like Florida may not be entirely impossible. They also seem to have a penchant for Czech forwards...*enter Ales Kotalik.*
Florida is likely looking to shed salary without having to take much back in return, and is in the same boat as the Flames should be in that regard. Horton largely fits the bill for the Flames' needs--a big winger with offensive upside who is capable of playing tough minutes--and is potentially better than most wingers the Flames could acquire on the free agent market. What do you think?
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That would be a waste of Phaneuf’s “superstar potential”.
by SmellOfVictory on Jun 18, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
A good addition I'd say
Hopefully he’s not the second coming of Rob Nidermayer though – who had his best offensive season at 21.
If Sarich is healthy and looks like he can contribute this year – I’d go Regehr for Horton straight up. No salary problem for either team.
If Regehr nixes that deal – I’d offer Sarich and Moss – since Horton would likely take all of #2 RW minutes anyway.
Florida likely to want Markstrom to back up Vokoun this – which would make Scott Clemmensen available. That would be nice if we could sneak that deal in as well. $1.2 for him is good value.
Well, Horton for Kotalik would free up 1 million in cap space for Florida; I say they should take it.
Eh, they don’t know that.
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by Justin Azevedo on Jun 19, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
everybody knows that. which is why he was traded for a dud like JOKINEN
by walkinvisible on Jun 19, 2010 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Horton coveted
Horton is being coveted by other teams, Buffalo especially. He has a no trade clause beginning July1, so he may get dealt soon-at 4 million a year he seems a little beyond Calgary’s cap. I’m sure some space will be made shortly though. Without draft picks I’m sure Calgary will make some free-agent moves and Horton will require a high draft surrendered which Calgary lacks for trade bait. Free agents I’d like to see-Lombardi coming back-Brendan Morrison-year to year contract player-might play well with Iginla. How about Kurtis Foster a Calgary pick that was drafted and went back into the draft and eluded Calgary? I like Foster.
How about Stephen Weiss?
Stephen Weiss’s name has been mentioned in Florida-a player with potential, but does Calgary have anything to entice teams without tanking for a few years and going into full rebuild mode?
Finding useable free-agents
It is important for Calgary to sign a couple of free-agents, with no draft picks due to deals made-water under the bridge-then Sutter will wheel and deal. We are not in a position of strength for trades, the only hope is free-agents.
Brendan Morrison is possible, of course I’d like to have Lombardi back but is it possible if we are capped out. Trade a couple of players for draft picks, pick up a couple of free-agents with the cap space created.
I sure wish Phaneuf yielded a first round pick instead of obtaining another teams bacon fat, hang on to a player until its ultimately thrown away like a tin of bacon fat on the counter. I’d be happy if Sutter trimmed the fat so to speak.
Lombardi makes sense
If you can get him for less than $3m and you can move Langkow. It makes no sense otherwise. You won’t be aprreciably better next year if you do that – but you could be slightly cheaper ( and younger), and pick up future assets.
We had a long discussion here a couple of weeks ago about the merits of Glencross vs Nystrom and whether you can or should keep both. Neither is ever going to be a top 6 forward, so how many of 3/4 guys do you need. Glencross is slightly better player with one year left on a $1.2 m deal. When he becomes a FA he likely will command more; so since he is playing "above his contract ’ his trade value is actually pretty good right now. If you sign Nystrom to a $1m deal and trade Glencross – again you are not better this year, but you could pick up some valuable assets ( maybe even up to a 2nd round pick) . If you let Nystrom go elsewhere, and then can not afford Glencross next year you end up with nothing beyond this year with the only advantage as the gap between Glencross and Nystrom for one season. That same logic applies to Lombardi vs Langkow – though I think that gap may have closed to nil.
Morrisson I would sign as 4th line centre if you are not having Conroy back.
A first round pick, upcoming or recent would have been nice for Phanuef. I like the bacon fat analogy. On that note – people are beating Montreal up over what they got for Halak. It is strange, it seems if you say 1st round pick it sounds more valuable than Lars Eller – even though Eller was a 13th overall pick 3 years ago. To me that is far more valuable than a future pick – a guy who is ready to step in soon.
didn't have those assets
Comparable trade would have been Gio and a pick we don’t have. Will Horton reverse his declining production – playing with either Bergeron or Savard.

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