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Your 2009-10 Calgary Flames - In Verse


Hayley was kind enough to get the post game thread up and running to allow for continued venting on the year that was (and is still, to a bitter end).  There didn't seem to be much point in specifically discussing last night's game, other than I have no idea how Daniel Sedin didn't score with a minute left to deny the Avs any points.  Oh, wrong game.  Never mind, I have even less thoughts on the Sharks-Flames tilt.

So, instead, I wanted to get a jump on the season review.  Well, not a jump, really just a small step.  We here at M&G love us some haiku (well, non-traditional haiku anyway).  So I took an attempt at summarizing the roster, one player at a time.  Enjoy...

Star-divide

 

Ian White, restricted,

Hope to sign for 2-3 Mil.

But must purge Staios

 

Jay-Bo is a rock

Unfortunately the rock

rarely rolls up ice.

 

Everyone loves Gio

Cheap, great offense, solid hits

Next year sure top four.

 

Sarich is OK

But paid top four, plays as six?

Time for him to go.

 

Steve Staios, great guy?

Could be, but he kills cap and

on the ice he's bad.

 

Reggie still my fave

Has top four smarts and mean streak

But fear end is near.

 

Pardy in press box.

But as youth with small contract,

Should be on the ice.

 

Iggy, breaks my heart.

Still beloved, and rightly so,

Please rebound next year!

 

Matt Stajan, ex Leaf

Now long term Flame, holy hell

Please score us some goals.

 

When Hagman was Star,

I always wanted him here.

Will they take him back?

 

Poor Daymond Langkow,

"#1 Center"? Don't care,

Proved worth while absent.

 

Ales Kotalik still

in org. for two more years.  Oops!

New star for the Heat!

 

A new big contract,

for Bork Bork Bork? That's OK,

He's this year's best Flame.

 

Jamal Mayers best

ex-Leaf forward post trade? Yikes!

Still glad Phaneuf's gone!!

 

Old Man Craig Conroy,

Retiring to TV booth?

If so, he'll be missed.

 

The Mosster was not

as scary to foes this year,

Must bounce back next year.

 

PocketDawes is one

Flame who showed value this year.

Keep him on the team.

 

When he wasn't hurt,

Curtis Glencross played hard and showed

great breakaway skills.

 

Flame fans love Mickis,

he's young, cheap and improving.

Rare asset for Flames.

 

The great Kipper can

only mumble these four words:

"Score a bleeping goal!"

 

Eric Nystrom has

found a place on fourth line and

down a man.  Keep him!

 

Vesa Toskala,

Sure he's a friend to Kipper,

but he's bad goalie.

 

Chris Higgins showed he

has value, although few goals.

I'd like him brought back.

 

Brett Sutter is just

one of the Sutter clan that

Needs to leave Flames org.

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Excellent work. I had one for Daz but 8 of the syllables were a swear.

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by Justin Azevedo on Apr 7, 2010 3:11 PM PDT reply actions  

My favourite post of all time.

by SarahM on Apr 7, 2010 3:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Nothing like poetry to bring peace. ‘specially the hippie brand of poetry – a haiku. In elementary school in the ’70’s the teachers were evangelistic in their teaching of haikus as the way to modern literary peace and genius. I hated them.

by PrairieStew on Apr 7, 2010 4:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Excellent work maimster! And I just figured out you can “rec” a post! Totally Rec’d.

by Hayley on Apr 7, 2010 5:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Don’t count on Brett Sutter going anywhere. He’s already looking like the replacement for Conroy on the roster. They had him out on PKs and defensive situations, and he did well.

by Resolute on Apr 7, 2010 6:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Higgins, Glencross, and Langkow were all injured and all play in defensive situations. I fully expect Brett to be playing for the Heat full time again next year.

by M F on Apr 7, 2010 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I’m sure Sutter will stay, I just was trying to make the point that his dad could go (and uncle as well!).

by maimster on Apr 7, 2010 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Check out some of Damien Cox’s Brain Sewage

Like, WTF is this guy thinking:

The Flames don’t have to worry about the nearly useless Chris Higgins beyond this season, but they get to pay Ales Kotalik $3 million for each of the next two years, heavy dough for a player nearly as useless as Higgins.

Has he even watched a Calgary game all year? Higgin’s was solid both in driving possession and penalty killing.

The deal that sent Dion Phaneuf was awful

Yes I know he is future captian material blah blah, but a little early to be calling the trade “awful.”

by M F on Apr 7, 2010 7:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Cox is a Toronto writer. Like everyone else in Toronto, he’s overrating Phaneuf to pander to the local mob.

If you want to see a terrible piece, go check out Ken Campbell’s blog at THN. That guy is an embarrassment to both the mainstream media and bloggers alike.

by Resolute on Apr 7, 2010 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I saw a lot more potential in Chris Higgins than Ales Kotalik this year. But I wouldn’t put too much stock in what the Cox says. I live in Toronto, and I can tell you that most of the media here are too lazy to stay up past 10pm to watch the western conference games with any regularity.

by Firefox444 on Apr 7, 2010 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I definitely would not call it awful. If White is resigned (if he’s not, I might actually quit watching the Flames in despair) then the trade was worth it, albeit not an optimal return.

by SmellOfVictory on Apr 7, 2010 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s funny how Ray Ferraro not 72 Hours ago says that the Flames should keep Iginla, Tonight on the Quiz he’s the only one amongst much better analysts and insiders that says the time for Iginla to be a Flame is over.

by CofRed on Apr 7, 2010 11:13 PM PDT reply actions  

i will absolutely be devastated if the org trades iggy… in saying that, i will also be okay with it if the return is right…. darryl sutter is not the man to do it.

by walkinvisible on Apr 8, 2010 8:41 AM PDT reply actions  

I am going to love the reaction when all the people who want him gone get their wish and then have to deal with sub-par players coming back. Does no one remember the Phaneuf trade already? That’s worked out great so far, right? Come on guys, some of the best GM’s in the league didn’t even know Dion was available! You really want Daz to take another kick at the can in terms of a superstar being traded? I sure as hell don’t.

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by Justin Azevedo on Apr 8, 2010 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

i want someone who’s not arrogant and full of hubris to take the reigns, and then analyze if it makes sense to trade iggy or not. i don’t think the dion trade was a disaster so long as we can sign ian white. otherwise ? maybe.

by walkinvisible on Apr 8, 2010 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ya that really pisses me off how other GMs didn’t know. I’d be loving me some Stephen Weiss and Nathan Horton if Florida knew. For sure Sexton would have traded those two for Dion and Boyd or so.

by Rod Blogojevich on Apr 8, 2010 9:28 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

“If Florida knew”

That is such bullshit. Phaneuf trade rumours had been circling since late in the 08-09 season. If Sexton was doing his job, he would have been calling Sutter to find out the validity of those rumours.

by Resolute on Apr 8, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

this just in

" Phaneuf was traded ?" – Garth Snow

by PrairieStew on Apr 8, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve read this point that GMs in the league didn’t know Dion was available on this blog, but where does this info come from? Sounds like bullshit to me, quite frankly.

by maimster on Apr 8, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Darcy Regher said on HNIC that he didn’t know that Phaneuf was available and he talked to other GM’s to see if he had missed something, but they didn’t know either. It was the week after the trade, I believe.

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by Justin Azevedo on Apr 8, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t believe him, quite honestly.

by maimster on Apr 8, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m inclined to. That seems like Darryl to seek out a specific team and only deal with them, not to mention that Regher is one of the most respect guys in hockey.

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by Justin Azevedo on Apr 8, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Devastated will be an understatement of how I’ll feel. I still don’t think it’ll happen, but I’m glad I get to see the game on Saturday now, just in case it is Jarome’s last in a Flames jersey. I usually don’t wear my Iggy jersey to games because it’s the old style, and white, but I’ll be wearing it on Saturday.

by SarahM on Apr 8, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sutter Stays??? Higgins is good???

OK, time for ya’ll to face reality.

You basically hired a coach who failed his last team in the playoffs cause he couldnt get them prepared, or as he put it “got homesick”. He was given a job in Calgary for no other reason than his brother was the GM. Lets face it, there is no way in on earth that Brent, and his floppy ears, could replace Keenan. What did he have on is resume?" Oh, my last team made the playoffs 2 years in a row" BIG NEWS!! They made it 10 years in a row BEFORE that too. With theexception of that when he was coach, they got eliminated in R1 consecutvely!! Not even a coach as lame as Brent could stop Brodeur, Parise, Zajac, Elias and the rest of the Devils from making the playoffs…

You’ve been RIPPED OFF. If I was a fan, i would call up Darryl and get a refund for my season tickets for fraudulantly misleading his fans that he did what he thought was best for the team as a GM

on a side note. Higgins is nothing to smile about. In NY and Montreal, his slap shot couldn’t hit the ocean from the shore.

Kotalik has a future, but not under a sutter system.

by RickyM2 on Apr 8, 2010 11:34 AM PDT reply actions  

Brent is a bad coach. The majorty of us want him gone, but a bunch of us don’t think the ownership will cut them.

Higgins has scored 20 3 times before, and he was effective defensively here. That’s much more then Kotalik did. Ales is destined for the waiver wire, and no GM in their right mind would take him.

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by Justin Azevedo on Apr 8, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

stats are not everything

Higgins may have have some small scoring years, and you might think of his as a defensive forward, but as of lately, he was a liability to NYR and MTL.

NOTE TO DARRYL: when a GM as bad as Glen Sather lets someone go in their first year on his team, you not only avoid that player like a disease, but you immediately waive any player who he shows any interest in.

by RickyM2 on Apr 8, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was good here. He’s a UFA and will probably be easy to keep for a small tag. I’d want him back-like you said, stats are not everything.

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by Justin Azevedo on Apr 8, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Would Be Great Stats

If I were to make a stat count that would be of signifigance, they would be

SOG vs Missed Shots
Times Offsides
Turnovers
Open Ice Hits
+/- on a PK
+/- on a PP
% of Missed Passes From His Teamates
% of Missed Passes To His Teamates

While, those stats wouldnt tell the whole story, they would tell alot.

by RickyM2 on Apr 8, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Devils lost in the first round last year because Brodeur shat the bed, not because the coach couldn’t get them prepared. New Jersey won something like 95 games in two years under Brent Sutter.

Oh, and as far as Brent’s resume goes, he has a WHL title, a Memorial Cup, two World Junior Gold medals, was unbeaten in all international play at the junior level and coached his team to a division title in the NHL in his second year. This is a guy who had been targeted for an NHL job by various teams for a decade.

We’re all pissed at how the season went, but seriously, making shit up and willfully disregarding the reasons why Brent got where he is is ridiculous.

by Resolute on Apr 8, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice

Well done Resolute.

Keep him. Have Lowry and Playfair switch. Jim deserves another crack.

by PrairieStew on Apr 8, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

If he’s up to it, I’d like to see Playfair stay with Abbotsford until the Flames really are ready to rebuild. Jim’s a good coach, but as an assistant, he played good cop to Daryl’s bad cop far too often to switch roles himself when he became head coach. He was set up to fail then, and I’d rather not set him up to fail now. But as a teaching coach, I think Playfair would be effective. Even if they don’t pull the plug this year (and I hope they don’t), this team is at most two seasons away from a rebuild phase. Having Playfair step back in as the head coach then would be ideal, in my view.

by Resolute on Apr 8, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here’s an idiot for you.

This guy thinks Bouwmeester should get placed on waivers to see if anyone bites on him or if no one does head to the minors.

http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/32722-THNcom-Blog-Time-for-Flames-to-consider-moving-Iginla.html

Again The Hockey News proves to be terrible.

by CofRed on Apr 8, 2010 11:56 AM PDT reply actions  

Ken Campbell is a fucking moron. Don’t waste your time reading him.

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by Justin Azevedo on Apr 8, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

First time I ever have and it will be the last time, I like to stay away from THN in the first place but wanted to read about what teams had the most man games lost due to injury.

by CofRed on Apr 8, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

makes no sense

putting JBo on waivers is like putting Angelina Jolie on The Bachelorette… If Darryl did that, he better have police do crowd control to handle the GM’s that will flood the area

by RickyM2 on Apr 8, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

whaa?

Angelina is on the Bachelorette ?
When ?
Where ?

by PrairieStew on Apr 8, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rush Limbaugh

That there article is a case of “Rush” ism – waaay over the top in an opinion in order to incite discussion and drive readership with the ridiculousness of it. The last big $ d- man to be buried was Vlad Malakhov right after the lockout; traded by the Devils to the Sharks with a draft pick for a LOWER draft pick. Not going to happen with Jay Bouw.

by PrairieStew on Apr 8, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

All these hockey analysts outside of Darren Dreger & Bob McKenzie arguably the two best in the business believe Jarome Iginla will not be a Flame next season.

If Jarome were to be traded what could the possible return be?

1. It would have to be salary for salary thus not fixing the problem.
2. Jarome isn’t an Ilya Kovalchuk there for can’t create offense by himself anymore.
3. The possible return wouldn’t be nearly as good as what Atlanta got for Kovalchuk.
4. An easier solution is finding new homes for Robyn Regehr & Daymond Langkow (Sarich & Kotalik won’t be as easy) using that cap space to go out an get possibly Tomas Plekanec.
5. Jarome has NMC and said he wants to stay but wouldn’t be surprised if Management came to him with the idea of waiving it.

These are what I believe the issues will be of bringing up trading Jarome.

by CofRed on Apr 8, 2010 2:57 PM PDT reply actions  

1. Unless it’s to Pittsburgh for Malkin – Ha !!
2. True – better team guy though – better community guy
3 Kovy a rental so that depressed the price. Iggy’s got 3 years which is both an asset and liabilty for value depending on situation/perspective. Call it a saw off and say Iggy;s worth 3 prospects.
4 True and (double true)
5 I’d be suprised if ownership asked/permitted management to deal him

by PrairieStew on Apr 8, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

McKenzie has sources, but his opinions are worth shit. I’d hardly call him one of the best in the business.

by Resolute on Apr 8, 2010 5:47 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

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