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The Calgary Curse? Former Flames in 2009-10

Don't look now, but Curtis McElhinney is on fire. In five games with the Ducks, he has four wins, a .933 SV%, and a 1.98 GAA. Clearly Southern California agrees with him. So what is the secret to his success? A simple hot streak? More playing time, less pressure, more support from teammates? A different system? Or just...getting out of Calgary? 

It's a common thing in any pro sports league--a player your team cast away or gave up on, one that always appeared to have potential but was inconsistent in your team's colours, or one who looked like his best years were behind him moves on to another team where he proceeds to put up improved numbers--leaving you wondering what could have been. Of course, it is impossible to predict such instances, but during my time as a Flames fan, I feel like this has occurred with startling frequency. Obviously I could go back and harp on about Martin St. Louis and Marc Savard, but for the sake of relevancy I'll stick to the past year or two. In light of Curtis McElhinney's fourth straight win as a Duck last night, here is a list of players who have left Calgary only to find success elsewhere: 

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Matthew Lombardi

Lombo is a player gifted with great speed and versatility. He could be used in any situation at even strength, on the powerplay, and even on the penalty kill. That skill set, along with the fact that he once scored 57 goals in junior, created a set of expectations for him as a career first or second line centre, which, either because he wasn't given the necessary opportunity or he just wasn't cut out for the job, he never achieved in Calgary. His best season in Calgary came in 2006-07 when he scored 20 goals and 46 points, but he normally hovered around the 30-point plateau, pretty good considering his role on the team. In his final season with the Flames he had 9-21-30 and the lowest SH% of his pro career at 7.6. In 93 games with the Coyotes since being traded to Phoenix at last year's deadline, he has 21 goals, 45 assists, and 66 points. He already has a career high in points this season with 50, third on the Coyotes behind Shane Doan and Wojtek Wolski,  and is back up at a 10.2 SH%, playing in the Coyote's top six. Then there's the whole "playoffs" thing...

Adrian Aucoin

Aucoin actually had some good numbers with the Flames in terms of point production. He scored 10 goals in each of his two seasons with the team and 35 and 34 points respectively, but in his second year, saw his +/- drop from +13 to -8. This season, he has rebounded slightly with Phoenix, sitting at -1 on the season and with 8-20-28; his numbers aren't as good as they were with the Flames and his departure saved the team a lot of cash, but even though he may have been slow and a defensive liability at times, he still looks like a better option than Steve Staios, plus, he's a shootout wizard. Since he took a pay-cut, he's also cheaper. 

James Vandermeer

During last night's broadcast of the Flames/Coyotes game, Peter Loubardias and John Garret spent a good minute discussing Vandermeer's skills as an "offensive defenceman." When I took a gander at his stats, I noted that they weren't that impressive: 4-8-12 and +3 in 61 games, just under what he played in parts of two seasons with the Flames. Dumping Vandermeer's $2.3 M salary was one of last summer's biggest accomplishments for Darryl Sutter and the Flames, but at 29, he's likely still better value than Staios or maybe even Sarich.  

Kristian Huselius

One of my favourite Flames in recent years. Absolutely loved the guy. Just throwing that out there. Juice never had a bad season in his two and a half years as a Flame. Was he streaky, inconsistent, sometimes invisible? Yes, but never bad. In fact, he probably overachieved more than anything. In his first full season in Calgary he put up career highs in almost all categories: goals, assists, points, +/- , PP goals, game winning goals, you name it, with a decent supporting cast. I'll never forget that game in Tampa where he and Iginla both had hat tricks. He was also shooting the lights out that season at 19.7%. This season in Columbus, on a bad team with almost no depth at forward after Rick Nash and RJ Umberger, he has 23-39-62, 8 PP goals, and is shooting 15%. The Flames would kill for that offensive production right about now...or in December. 

Anton Stralman 

Most Flames fans were thrilled when Sutter acquired Stralman while simultaneously dumping Wayne Primeau on Toronto, but Stralman didn't last long enough to play a regular season game in Calgary as Darryl swapped him out for a fourth-round pick in pre-season in favour of Staffan Kronwall and Aaron Johnson (who has 3-3-6 and is shooting 18.8% since being traded to Edmonton) for reasons known only to him. Stralman has 6-28-34 in 68 games this season, and his -14 can likely be attributed to the fact that he plays for the Blue Jackets. There's no way to predict whether or not Stralman would have had similar numbers with the Flames, but his presence certainly would have come in handy at times during the season, specifically after the Phaneuf trade.

Owen Nolan

 Rumours of Nolan's retirement were surfacing in the summer of 2007 before he was signed to a free-agent contract by the Flames where proved he still had some game, scoring 16-16-32 in 77 games. That was enough to earn him another contract with the Wild, where he scored 25 goals in 59 games last season and at 38, has 16 goals this season. I'm all for getting younger, faster, etc., but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a huge Owen Nolan fan during his lone season with the Flames. If that goal he scored earlier this season against Tampa is any indication, he's still got it. His 33 points this season is more than seven of the Flames' regular forwards, although he is making more money than almost all of them. 

The success of players on new teams is dependent on a variety of different circumstances, and the list could look likely look different still if underlying stats were considered. It remains to be seen whether we'll be bemoaning the losses of Dion Phaneuf and Dustin Boyd a few years down the road, and it's possible that they could turn out to be bigger difference makers than any of the players on this list. On the other hand, you have guys like Chuck Kobasew and Alex Tanguay who had their best seasons points-wise in Flames colours and, all things considered, haven't been able to produce consistently at the same level since. Despite Cammalleri's career season in Calgary last year, rumours that he wanted out persist. Maybe I'm trying too hard to find a pattern where there isn't one, but I believe this point was brought up in the comments last night or not too long ago: If it isn't the coach, or the players, or the "system" that is causing players to leave the team and have success elsewhere, than what is it? 

What do you think? Is there any merit to this whatsoever or am I simply grasping at straws? 

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I’m not sure this list means much, too be honest. McElhinney has a sample size to small to count for anything. Guys like Huselius and Aucoin ranged from OK to really good as Flames, but not keeping either one around certainly was an acceptable decision and they’re not any better outside of Calgary than they were in Calgary. Same for Nolan. Same for Vandermeer, really – teams bring guys in and move guys out like that all the time. Stralman wasn’t even a Flame, for all intents and purposes.

Lombardi (and probably Boyd) are the two guys that most of us were sad to see gone and had hoped they’d be given more opportunity, and both will be better as ex-Flames than they were as Flames. But not because they’re ‘happier’ outside of Calgary, just because they’re getting a chance to play more (and for Boyd, that’s still in question). They should have been given that opportunity in Calgary, but then Bourque should have been given that opportunity in Chicago and the Flames are reaping the benefit of that decision too.

And Savard and St.Louis, the two biggest examples of Flames bleep-ups, were long ago and have all sorts of extenuating circumstances.

by maimster on Apr 1, 2010 5:07 PM PDT reply actions  

I don’t think it means too much either; I know there are a lot of different factors that contribute to players having success with different teams and there wasn’t a whole lot to choose from when it came to picking recent former Flames who have had success with new teams without going a long ways back, as the jury is still out on Phaneuf and Boyd. I was just kind of throwing the idea out there.

by Hayley on Apr 1, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve thought a number of times about how nice it would be to have Aucoin on the team instead of Staios or even Sarich (if only due to cap constraints); Lombardi, well I don’t think there’s a single Flames fan alive who wouldn’t prefer that the Flames have Lombo, Prust, and a first rounder as opposed to Joker and/or Koktalik/Higgins.

Just a teeny alteration to your Lombardi bit: he’s actually 3rd after Doan and Wolski this season (maybe you weren’t considering Wolski since he was with Colorado most of the season, but I thought I’d be picky just for the sake of it :) ).

by SmellOfVictory on Apr 1, 2010 5:32 PM PDT reply actions  

You’re right, I totally forgot about Wolski.

by Hayley on Apr 1, 2010 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Getting out of Calgary is probably helping McL, and not to mention the ducks are getting better shot prevention when he’s in net….by the tune of about 2 shots per game. However, as Maimster said, 4 games does not mean anything….he will descend back into sucksville tout de suite.

His year stats still read:

EvSv% – .906, Sv% – .901 – 7-4-0 2.82.

He’s destine for Alex Auld career trajectory..

by LawrenceS on Apr 1, 2010 8:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Of course, you could say the same thing about guys who came here.

Bourque, Conroy, Kipper, Langkow, Cammalleri… and to a lesser extent, Dawes and Glencross. All stepped up their games upon arrival.
 
Even guys you mention were known commodities priced out by the cap… Aucoin, Huselius, Nolan (Sutter’s rationale was that Sparklepants was half the price). Letting any competent defender looks like a mistake with Staios back there.

The biggest screw-up of all time, imo? Brett Hull. For Rick Wamsley and Rob Ramage. Ouch.

by Wittmeier on Apr 1, 2010 9:14 PM PDT reply actions  

The Doug Gilmour trade could get thrown in their but I’ll take a Stanley Cup over stats any day something Doug Gilmour never won again.

Flames have also received great play from incomers as well like Wittmeier said but I get what you mean from players that we either gave up on or didn’t bother resigning I.E. Martin St Louis and I guess JS Giguere as well two cup appearances plus a ring.

GO FLAMES GO!!!

by CofRed on Apr 1, 2010 10:53 PM PDT reply actions  

The reason St Louis has a ring instead of Iggy is officiating and phatnom goals. We all know that. :p

I will admit, a top line of St Louis-Savard-Iginla would have been amazing, though.

by SmellOfVictory on Apr 2, 2010 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

I will admit, a top line of St Louis-Savard-Iginla would have been amazing, though.

Why not just punch me?, seriously. It’s a Friday too. I think you need to take more individual responsibility for when you write things that are so true, and feel like a kick in the nuts.

by LawrenceS on Apr 2, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Haha hey, when it comes to my mind it causes me great testicular pain as well, and I would be remiss if I didn’t share that pain with my fellow fans. =D

by SmellOfVictory on Apr 2, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am curious on how other teams fair in this kind of regression. As a Flames fan I tend to focus on the large f-ups of our org.

by 44stampede on Apr 2, 2010 6:05 PM PDT reply actions  

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