Flames Prospect Update: CHL Playoffs
Yesterday I posted a link to an update on several of the Flames' European prospects, so with the second round of the CHL playoffs about to begin, I thought I'd take a look at how the Flames' junior prospects are doing this season.
Greg Nemisz, RW, Windsor Spitfires (OHL) Drafted 25th overall in 2008
After a disappointing World Junior tournament in which Nemisz registered only one goal, he has racked up 34-36-70 and is +22 in 51 games. Nemisz recently missed more than a month of action including Windsor's first round victory over the Erie Otters after sustaining a deep gash in his thigh when he was cut by the skate of a teammate, but is ready to return for Game 1 of his team's second round playoff series against the Plymouth Whalers.
Talent Analysis:
T.J. Brodie, D, Barrie Colts (OHL), Drafted 114th overall in 2008Excellent in front of the net, hard to move and with soft hands for a player of his size, Nemisz will make a good power forward, if he can improve his skating and general agility.
Nemisz must also work on being consistently physical in his play, so that he can be the force on the ice that his position requires--Hockey's Future
After being chosen late in the fourth round of the NHL draft in 2008, Brodie has shot up the Flames' depth chart, and is currently ranked fifth out of the team's top twenty prospects. He had 3-30-33 in 46 games with the #1 ranked Colts this season and was +18. He has three assists and is +4 in four playoff games so far this spring, and the Colts will move on to play Cody Hodgson's Brampton Battalion in the second round.
The talent analysis provided by Hockey's Future is ambiguous to say the least:
Offensive defenseman of average size.
Ryan Howse, LW, Chilliwhack Bruins (WHL), Drafted 74th overall in 2009
A mid-third round pick at last year's draft, Howse is another player that has improved by leaps and bounds this season, posting a career-high in goals (47) and points (72). Howse operated at a point-per-game pace and was a plus player for the first time in his WHL career, finishing the season +9. The Bruins were recently eliminated from the playoffs, where Howse collected five goals and six points in six games versus the Tri-City Americans. At 19, Howse could still spend another year in junior, but with numbers like that I'm sure he'd make a nice addition to the Heat sometime in the near future.
Howse is a shifty, feisty forward with a nose for the net.
Howse does not dominate physically, but will not shy away from heavy traffic. He is a very good skater, great acceleration. Good understanding of the defensive side of the game.
Mitch Wahl, C, Spokane Chiefs (WHL), Drafted 48th overall in 2008
Ranked 7th out of the Flames' top twenty prospects, Wahl's performance in his last year of junior has many Flames fans excited, and not just because of the constant hype he receives via his agent Allan Walsh's twitter account. Wahl has tallied 30-66-96 in 72 games this season and is +23. He's steadily improved upon his goal totals since entering the league and has operated at more than a point per game pace since 2007-08.
A tireless worker, Wahl is effective at both ends of the rink and has been successful in maintaining consistent production.
Lance Bouma, C, Vancouver Giants (WHL), Drafted 78th overall in 2008
Bouma is another player who continues to improve in his last year of junior. His numbers are pretty decent, nothing too compelling (14-28-43, 57GP, +8) and he has 1 goal and 6 points in four playoff games this season, as the Giants prepare for the WHL semifinals. No talent analysis or future projections have been posted for Bouma, but I can see him developing into a useful third or fourth liner in the NHL. On the other hand, he could be one of those guys who gets buried in the AHL for the entire duration of his career, it's a coin-flip really.
Gaelan Patterson, C, Saskatoon Blades (WHL), Drafted 201st overall in 2009
After two disappointing seasons to start his junior career, Gaelen Patterson has improved astronomically in his last two seasons. He had career highs in goals (26) and points (59) and has three goals in four playoff games so far this season, very impressive numbers for a seventh-round pick. The Blades are moving on to play the Brandon Wheat Kings in the semifinals.
Spencer Bennett , LW, Portland Winter Hawks (WHL), Drafted 141st overall in 2009
Bennett signed with the Winter Hawks at the start of the 2009-10 season at 19 years old, after previously playing in the BCHL, and has 19-21-40 in his first season with Portland. He has no points in six playoff games so far this season and will face Wahl's Spokane Chiefs in Game 7 tonight.
Size potential at 6'3; decent offensive abilities shown so far at the BCHL level, though nowhere near as much as Chucko when he was selected. A project like the Flames other picks; fell out of a lot scouts' favor; needs to fill out frame.
Any comparison to Kris Chucko where a player comes out on the losing end can't be good, but since Bennett was a fifth round pick, future success or lack thereof likely won't have any impact on the Flames organization.
All these players are likely still a few years at best away from developing into potential NHLers, and the fact that the highest pick of the bunch is Greg Nemisz at 25th overall means that there are no guarantees here, as there rarely ever are, but Flames fans certainly have reason to be optimistic. With many of these guys playing their last year of junior, we could very well see some new faces in Abbotsford soon, where we will start to get more of an indication of their abilities and potential for success at the NHL level. At the least, the addition of some of these players to the Heat should bolster their roster and allow the team to build upon the progress they've made so far this season.
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I hate you so much. I was writing this yesterday and just waiting for the Spokane Chiefs game tonight so I’d have a complete first round. Boooo.
i don’t know why nobody ever mentions that mitch wahl looks like he should play hockey at madame tussauds.
by walkinvisible on Mar 31, 2010 7:52 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
THAT GUY FREAKS ME OUT!
I’ve been saying since we drafted him…dude is a creep show….and as good as he is, I may want him on another team just because I don’t want to have nightmares after every Flames game I watch when he’s on the team.
"Where do you go from here, Dion?" "I go to Toronto."
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by Justin Azevedo on Mar 31, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
he kind of looks like a burn victim on acutaine (sp?)
"Where do you go from here, Dion?" "I go to Toronto."
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Maybe he’s just really hot all the time.
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by Justin Azevedo on Mar 31, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
now i know why nobody ever mentions it….
we’re all going to hell.
by walkinvisible on Mar 31, 2010 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Just an aside on your “we’re all going to hell” comment: what’s the real moral difference between making fun of someone for being born ugly and making fun of someone for becoming ugly as a result of their environment? It’s really the same thing, in my mind.
So rest easy that we were all going to hell from the start. :)
by SmellOfVictory on Mar 31, 2010 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I tried asking Kent yesterday on the CBC chat but for someone reason my question never went through (and it wasn’t because of profanity)…but how far along development-wise are Tim Erixon and Greg Nemisz before they can realistically log meaningful NHL minutes. I ask this not so much because I would want them on the big club right away but because depending on their development they may be ideal trade parts to other teams for more ripe prospects that could immediately step in next year.
"Where do you go from here, Dion?" "I go to Toronto."
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I haven’t seen Erixon plat at all, but from what I saw of Nemisz at the WJC, he’s not that close. Several years, at least.
I’m not sure how you play with a combination of Hall, Eberle and Schenn and get no points when your team scores 35 goals in group play.
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by Justin Azevedo on Mar 31, 2010 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions
that usually happens when a player is floating on a line and not contributing…. see: kotalik/jokinen.
by walkinvisible on Mar 31, 2010 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, he’ll need a few years in the AHL to make opposition speed & size adjustments. I think he’ll be just fine once he does that thou. I think Wahl is actually the most “NHL ready” of the bunch since he plays such a smart mature game already. I’m a fan of Bouma too, but it’s harder for me to judge his readiness given that his role is entirely different from the others.
Niemesz
He’ll be the next Nystrom. Highly drafted but chronically disappointing. No Triple Gold Club in his future, but maybe the Hair Club if he follows in Nystroms follicle footsteps as I am predicting.
by Rod Blogojevich on Mar 31, 2010 10:13 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Nemisz
I was disappointed with his play as well. Looks like an awkward skater, and he didn’t make the WJC until his last year of eligibility. Keep in mind Taylor Hall 2 full years younger !
It reminds me of 99 (?) WJC – Canadian team wins silver in OT – losing to Russia in winnipeg. That team was led at forward by Flames first round picks Daniel Tzaczuck and Rico Fata. They were actually pretty good in that tournament – better than Nemisz was this year.
Encouraging huh ?
by PrairieStew on Mar 31, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Keep in mind Taylor Hall 2 full years younger !
Keep in mind Taylor Hall… also the presumtive #1 overall pick. Apple meet Orange.
I guess my major concern in bringing up this point is whether either of those guys hold enough hype/promise to flip into more NHL ready prospects the Flames could acquire from a team that has the luxury of waiting on prospect development cause their current pipeline is ripe (Pittsburgh or Washington for ex).
"Where do you go from here, Dion?" "I go to Toronto."
Spreading that Calgary Flames, Montreal Expos, The U, and Orlando Magic love.
The orange becomes a lemon ?
I was comparing the apple and orange intentionally. The apple ( Hall ) is already ripe, while the orange (Nemisz) has been on the vine 2 additional years and still looks green. I happen to think that if you were a first round pick and you go back to junior for 2 more years you’d better be a pretty dominant guy by the end of that second year. It troubles me that he is not, and in fact is probably being carried by Hall.
erixon plays top 4 minutes on a good SEL team as a 19 year old so he’s doing well.
d-men obviously have a very long development curve so he will need a couple of more years before ready for the big league.
his playing style seems to be somewhat like ian white/dan hamhuis/tom gilbert imo.
his team beat out the defending champs in game 7 of their quarter final yesterday btw.
I like the comparisons. I saw Malik’s own goal…is that the same team?
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by Justin Azevedo on Mar 31, 2010 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Nemisz is just floating along in Windsor I wouldn’t expect him to be a Top 6 Forward like most of our forward prospects.
But who I’m really looking forward to once he starts to play at the professional level. Ryan Howse seems like the type of player that could thrive in the new NHL but under a totally different system then what Butter likes to play. Does Howse have a shot to play with Abbotsford for the playoffs?
If not I would expect him to be one of the many good players in the WHL that play on a bad team that could get traded at next year’s deadline to a contender.
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I was wondering if Howse would be able to play for Abbotsford in the playoffs too…couldn’t find anything
They’d have to sign him to either a tryout contract or to his entry level deal. If they can do so, it would be a good idea, both for him and Abby, because they could use a scorer and he could stand some extra work against grownups.
by Robert Cleave on Mar 31, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
A bit off topic....
but worth the laugh.
Last night I finally got to watching Keep Your Head Up, Kid: The Don Cherry Story. If you happened to catch the two-part CBC television movie, you know the film’s director, Cherry’s son Tim, did an excellent job chronically the legendary hockey commentator’s life. However, I must admit there were quite a few surprises: http://bit.ly/btDJtn
by thestevenetwork on Mar 31, 2010 1:39 PM PDT reply actions
Nemisz looks like he will step right into the role of unnecessary whipping boy if certain fans succeed in running Iggy out of town.
by Resolute on Mar 31, 2010 6:26 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Rec’d for truth.
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by Justin Azevedo on Mar 31, 2010 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions
You underestimate the ability of people to create whipping boys.
“omg the Flames missed the playoffs because Nemisz wasn’t the guy we’d hoped he would be, that rotten bastard”
by SmellOfVictory on Mar 31, 2010 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember reading several articles last year when Hall and Ellis were at WJC and Nemisz went on a crazy point streak and helped carry the team on his back while they were gone.
The kid has alot of dedication to taking the next step. Don’t count him out yet.
by Jeremywilhelm on Mar 31, 2010 8:14 PM PDT via mobile reply actions

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