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Thursday Thoughts and Reading: West Standings Based on WIN%

I was doing some browsing around the SBN blogosphere the other day to get acclimatized to the network and stumbled upon this excellent post by Mr. Plank at Fear The Fin, coincidentally, the Flames' opposition tomorrow evening. He discusses San Jose's lack of success against playoff teams this season throughout the post, but I was more interested in this chart. What he's done here is compiled a chart showing the Reconstructed Western Conference Standings based on the winning percentage of the top nine teams in the West against Western playoff opponents, excluding games that have gone to a shootout, which can be found under the GSO column. 

Reconstructed Western Conference Standings

#
TEAMGPGSOGF/GGA/GG DIF.WLWIN%
1 Chicago
24
6 3.03
2.27 +0.76 16 8 66.6%
2 Detroit
28
4 2.78 2.53 +0.25 17 11 60.7%
3 Vancouver
24
4 3.25 2.43 +0.82 14 10 58.3%
4 Phoenix
18
9 2.15 2.33 -0.18 9 9 50.0%
5 Nashville
30
1 2.52 2.87 -0.35 14 16 46.6%
6 San Jose
22
6 2.89 2.89 E 10 12 45.4%
7 Colorado
21 5 2.42 2.88 -0.46 9 12 42.8%
8 Calgary
26
3 2.31 2.69 -0.38 11 15 42.3%
9 Los Angeles
25 4 2.34 2.86 -0.52 9 16 36.0%

As you can all see, the change for the Flames isn't that dramatic, they jump from ninth to eighth and into a playoff position with a 42.3% winning percentage, but if one ever wanted a partial explanation as to why this team is in ninth place in the West to begin with, look no further than their goal differential and, of course, the fact that they are three games under .500 against opponents in a playoff position. Those Chicago games, that loss to the Sharks, those losses to Colorado--it adds up. Including games against Eastern Conference playoff opponents and overtime/shootout games, the Flames are 17-17-9 against all playoff teams this season.

This chart puts Calgary, a team that has vastly underachieved, depending on who you ask, with Colorado, a team that has vastly overachieved this season. The Avs fall from fifth to seventh in the West due to their goal differential and ultimately, their record against playoff opponents, also three games under .500. I know that there have been many examples of statistical analysis done to expose the Avs for the bunch of lucky overachieving punks that they really are, and this chart drives the point home. As pointed out in the post, not all teams have played the same number of games against Western playoff opponents, so they have varying numbers of games left against said opponents. The Flames have six games left against Western playoff teams, and seven including a date with the Capitals at the end of March. 

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I think one of the most interesting things about this chart is the shifting of potential first-round playoff match-ups. Calgary would get Chicago, who jump into first place, once again, which would inevitably end in angry tears and curses thrown in the general direction of Patrick Kane and Dustin Byfuglien. The Red Wings move all the way up to second place by virtue of winning 60.7% of their games against the top eight in the West, and would play Colorado, which would be a very interesting series not only because of the historic rivalry between the two, but to see if the Avs could hold their heads above water in a seven-game playoff series against a team like Detroit.

Vancouver would stay where they are in third, but would meet the Sharks, who drop down to sixth, in the first round. Phoenix also stay where they are, but would play Nashville, who move up to fifth place. Nashville is another team that has overachieved this season, and to a lesser degree, Phoenix is as well. Their numbers are both better than Colorado's, although Phoenix has played less games against playoff teams and Nashville has played the most out of any team in the top nine. Then there are the Kings, who would miss out on the playoffs all together, falling from sixth to ninth. L.A. is seven games under .500 and has the worst goal differential of the group. They've been up and down all season, largely due to streaky play from Dustin Brown, Anze Kopitar, and Jonathan Quick, and it'll be interesting to see how they fare in the post-season; they would face the Canucks if playoff action began today. Vancouver's numbers are pretty impressive, which pains me to say. 

That's basically all I have to say, feel free to add your thoughts. 

Required reading: Eric Nystrom uses the word "bandwagon," vote on how the Bruins should execute "payback" on Matt Cooke, and the city of Abbotsford is getting fleeced worse than Darryl Sutter on Deadline Day. 

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Any update on GlenerationX and for that matter Chris Higgins?

GO FLAMES GO!!!

by CofRed on Mar 18, 2010 12:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Nothing from Boomer or McLovin, so I’m guessing that means “wait till tomorrow”.

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by Justin Azevedo on Mar 18, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I couldn’t find anything either, I don’t know if they even practiced today

by Hayley on Mar 18, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good catch, Hayley, I was looking at the post the other day too.

The Flames were similarly ineffective against quality teams last year.

by Kent Wilson on Mar 18, 2010 12:20 PM PDT reply actions  

But I feel they still play good against quality opponents in the term of play style not necessarily the stats but the way the play.

Still hopefully we can get over that Chicago stump.

GO FLAMES GO!!!

by CofRed on Mar 18, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

The problem with that theory is that there are not enough stats to back it up. The good games we have played against good teams have surely been negated by the amount of bad ones.

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by Justin Azevedo on Mar 18, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

For all the people who want revenge on Cooke-I give you one word:

Sparklepants.

Now go think for a while what that means.

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by Justin Azevedo on Mar 18, 2010 12:24 PM PDT reply actions  

I wouldn’t be surprised if anything happens to Cooke or Crosby for that matter and that’s even with Collie and his right hand man in the stands.

But again I wouldn’t be surprised to see nothing happen and I’m leaning towards the latter of the two.

GO FLAMES GO!!!

by CofRed on Mar 18, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think anything will happen. A win is much more important for Boston then revenge is at this point.

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by Justin Azevedo on Mar 18, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would be shocked if there’s any form of retaliation. This is the bruins we’re talking about. There MIGHT be one enforcer-enforcer fight, but that’ll be it.

by ArikJames on Mar 18, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

this is funny and sad all at the same time….

by walkinvisible on Mar 18, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

thanks for the link to the sportak article. it will be extra funny in hindsight three weeks from now when we’re doing our post mortems….

ps: guys like nystrom, iginla, and stajan are paid to say that kind of bullshit about bandwagons and not being done. how the eff would it look if our captain’s soundbyte today was “we’re pretty much fucked, to tell you the truth.”

by walkinvisible on Mar 18, 2010 12:27 PM PDT reply actions  

“I’d like to call a press conference.
Uh, yeah, so the season is lost. We’re just not gonna play the next 10 games. See you in September!”

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by Justin Azevedo on Mar 18, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know that there have been many examples of statistical analysis done to expose the Avs for the bunch of lucky overachieving punks that they really are, but this chart drives the point home.

The Avs dropping to 7th doesn’t prove they are lucky; it proves what we at MHH have said all along: the Avs are a good team that have a phenomenal goaltender who is keeping them from being the playoff bubble team they really are. 7th sounds about right to me, to others at MHH, to the stats, to just about everyone…even you now, apparently.

The 2009-2010 Colorado Avalanche: People can stop waiting for these kids to hit the wall. They won’t.

by NurseBeachie on Mar 18, 2010 12:35 PM PDT reply actions  

This post by the Man and the Legend Jon Willis suggests the Avs haven’t had much luck due to extra ‘Bettman’ points, though. They just have really high shooting percentages. Maybe JBlow can get some tips from them, has he gotten close to getting over that 1% shooting percentage hump yet?

by Rod Blogojevich on Mar 18, 2010 12:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Jay “weakshot” Bouwmeester

by SmellOfVictory on Mar 18, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

 Bow’s shooting percentage, according to NHL.com, is 1.8%. That’s good for 647th in league.

by Hayley on Mar 18, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not surprising when you look at the kinds of shots he takes. Rarely does he take a slapper, and most of the shots I’ve seen him take are wrist shots from the outside. Say what you will about Phaneuf, but at least he scared the shit out of the goalie when he blew a 100 mph puck six inches over the net. JBo looks like he’s afraid he’s going to break his stick/the puck/some fine china when he’s shooting.

by SmellOfVictory on Mar 18, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

His career SH% is 5.3%. So unless he’s hurt or is somehow a lesser version of himself this year relative to his career, I think we can expect a rebound next season.

by Kent Wilson on Mar 18, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I never watched him when he was in Fla, so this is just a crockery of supposition on my part, but he looks like he’s trying to chaperone the entire team when he plays so perhaps he is being less aggressive this year than he would normally be (and of course there’s always the potential reasoning that he keeps getting stuck with old/slow/shitty defensive partners and has to compensate for them).

wi: Oh, I’m not saying that Phaneuf is better than JBo by any means (between the two I’d take JBo all the way), just talking some smack about his shot, that’s all. =D

by SmellOfVictory on Mar 18, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

personally, i’d rather have a defender who can actually defend.

by walkinvisible on Mar 18, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s my thinking as well. The fact that he’s not scoring or really playing very much in the offensive zone doesn’t bother me, and given the circumstances he’s been in (being paired with partners like Sarich and Staios and facing top quality opponents most of the time) he’s likely not getting very many opportunities aside from being on the PP, which isn’t saying much on most days.

by Hayley on Mar 18, 2010 3:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Here:http://flames.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=61441 lies the one tool Flames fans need for this stretch run.

GO FLAMES GO!!!

by CofRed on Mar 19, 2010 10:55 AM PDT reply actions  

I don’t find the chart too helpful although the premise behind it is excellent.

Basically the problem I have is that Fear the Fin is trying to isolate performance against well-performing teams. That is an excellent idea but measuring performance over short time frames by wins and playoff positioning, well that is bound to get at least one or two crazy conclusions due to Lady Luck.

For instance, the fact that Colorado is still so high, well that’s laughable on its face. LA was probably a better team than Calgary for a good stretch (they have terrific forwards) and San Jose is almost as bad in its bottom end as Vancouver and probably almost as good if not better in its top end so its laughable that they’re so far apart.

by R O on Mar 23, 2010 12:50 PM PDT reply actions  

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