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The season isn't at an end, but you can see it from here.  I'm on the record as saying that there is no outcome that may result from the Flames missing the playoffs that is worth it happening.  Even first round exits are better than not geting the chance.  However, as Resolute noted below, playoff hockey in Calgary may only be the junior variety this year.

Having said that, I'm not here to write obituaries.  There are still 13 games left.  So, let's talk about this game in particular.

Star-divide

For starters, this was a pretty boring game.   Alright, that's not cutting edge analysis, but there it is.  There were a relatively small number of decent scoring chances at both ends, particularly by the Flames.  According to Kent's count, after Craig Conroy, David Moss and the long lost Nigel Dawes converted three quick chances into the only Flames goal of the night a minute plus in, Calgary had only ten (10!) chances the rest of the night.  Sure, they held Detroit to 15 chances themselves (although 5 of them came with Todd Bertuzzi on the ice, so that's still embarassing).  But 10 chances in 58 minutes means you're playing with fire, depending on such high quality chances that shooting percentage luck is on your side and goaltending that keeps you in games to convert those high quality chances.  And hoping that bleepin' Tomas Holmstrom isn't camped next to the crease with a minute left and a puck zooming toward him and Kipper.

In retrospect, it's been a pretty boring season, particularly if goals and shots are your currency.  There has been a lot of discussion here and elsewhere (a LOT of discussion) on Darryl Sutter and the moves he's made,   And there will be a lot more, as the roster he's assembled is the one that is failing to truly entertain, while also failing to win enough games - that is not a good combination.  I can't help but wonder how much coaching plays a part.  I was clearly one who was wanted to see the backside of Mike Keenan, and thought I was happy to see Brent Sutter (although I was loudly calling for Dave Tippett to be considered over Sutter).  Sutter's 08-09 team in New Jersey scored at a reasonable rate and was near the top of the league in shots.  Anecdotally, I got the sense they played up-tempo with a deep group of forwards that had only one real star. 

But now?  I don't know.  Is Sutter only driving the bus, with the roadmap set in the summer to reduce goals against, at all costs?  Sure, they've given up an impressive 0.59 GPG less than last year - never mind that they've scored 0.58 GPG less than last year too.  They are passive when leading by a goal in the third, which is frustrating, but even more passive when tied in the third.  A lot of it has to do with the forechecking style of the forwards, but last night watching Detroit drove home how important having defencemen willing to challenge breakouts is as well.  The winning goal was just one of many times that a Flame forward was challenged right at the blue and lost the battle, or were slowed down, or had the puck deflected away a few feet to short circuit a breakout. 

I don't watch Detroit enough to know if their D is that agressive with all teams - certainly, they're not setting the West on fire this year either, so maybe that's not the model to follow.  But they were always standing up to the rush and it sure seemed to work last night.  There wouldn't even be a Red Wing in the screen when the puck was coming to an apparently open Flame, and yet they'd be there in a flash to make the next Calgary move either rushed or in reverse.  The Flames play in retreat mode far too much - while that feels like smart defensive hockey when they win, it is hard to write about when they lose.

To hammer the point home a little more, last night the Detroit announcers (when they weren't saying "there's a trip/hold/slash/interference, no call") referenced specifically the defensive improvement by the Flames and how Sutter was emphasizing the reduction in shots against, and how important that was, etc.  Calgary gave up 29.8 shots per game in 2008-09.  They are giving up 29.0 this year.  That's something, but not a lot.   The goals against being down is all Kipper.  Combined with the goals for reduction, that leaves the Flames nearly where they are every year at this time - too close to the playoff cut line for comfort. 

Detroit Announcer Notes:  Ken Daniels and Mickey Redmond deserve some special mention for trying to entertain me with laughter last night.  Besides the comment on the Flames big reduction in shots against, I also learned that...Brad Stuart was a shutdown defenceman in Calgary "granted, for only 27 games" - presumably they weren't counting the playoffs!...Todd Bertuzzi scored 7 goals in the first "few" games for Calgary last year, and then he got hurt - yes, we have enough evidence this year that 20 game goalless droughts hurt.

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Not a word of a lie a shed a tear last night when Holmstrom scored. That’s what kind of fan I am. I felt so bad for the Flames.

This season isn’t over yet 13 to go and only 3 back with those f’ing Avs tomorrow if the Flames lose tomorrow then it’s probably safe to say it’s over but not until the end of this season that I will ever ever give up on my boys!

Always thinking positive.

GO FLAMES GO!!!

by CofRed on Mar 16, 2010 1:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Im starting to get the feeling that on-air personalities are less experts and colormen and more jesters and clowns; there more to cavort and caper for the viewers amusement more than to analyze and clarify.

by Kent Wilson on Mar 16, 2010 1:36 PM PDT reply actions  

And that’s fine by me! Helps to juice up boring defensive hockey games and improve the atmosphere of games where your team is losing.

by SmellOfVictory on Mar 16, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just wish they’d wear the proper suits and make-up. And stop pretending they know what they’re talking about.

by Kent Wilson on Mar 16, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will say that Loubardius doesn’t seem to whine about penalties that should have been called as much as other announcers I’ve heard, although that could just be my Flames filter.

by maimster on Mar 16, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lombardius will call out the really bad calls.

I’m sure he’d have something to say about the Phantom Interference call on Staios that led to the tying goal.

GO FLAMES GO!!!

by CofRed on Mar 16, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately, that is part and parcel of playing Detroit. You are always swimming six against eight when facing the Wings. Have to overcome the tilted ice if you expect to win.

Anyway, our odds of qualifying for the post season is now just one in five. We’d have to play .650 hockey just to get to a 50-50 chance. It isn’t over, but this team would have to go on an epic run for it to happen.

by Resolute on Mar 16, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Enjoyable quote from the radio:

“The trainers at the Saddledome are currently busy trying to get the Holmstrom ass-smell out of Kipprusoff’s equipment.”

by SmellOfVictory on Mar 16, 2010 3:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Holmstrom is one of those guys where I wouldn’t shed a tear if he got cross checked into the goal post. He’s a subtle cheater who usually gets away with it.

by Resolute on Mar 16, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he was straight up shoving his ass into Kipper’s face half the night. One of those situations where Darryl’s beloved BBP would’ve been put to good use shoving him the fuck out of there. Without him there, the score would’ve been 1-0 Flames, almost guaranteed.

by SmellOfVictory on Mar 16, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

face off

Couldnt understand the flames allignment on the 2 faceoffs at the end. They won both of them but all they did was shoot into a bunch of traffic and the puck never got through. The put 3 guys up front and 3 guys back. the 2 guys back might have just stayed on the bench. There could have been an opportunity to use a weak side player to one time a pass from the player who shot the puck. Not much in the imagination department.

by Ricky G on Mar 16, 2010 3:38 PM PDT reply actions  

No game summary haiku? Here’s one:

Things are looking grim
I wish that I could give up
But hope reigns supreme

(Which is to say, I am an ever-suffering optimist.)

by SarahM on Mar 16, 2010 3:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Need better effort
Hope all but lost at this point
Cheer for the Hitmen

by Resolute on Mar 16, 2010 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Plowshares Descend, Flaws
Accelerate Proudly, Claw
Burrowing Serpent

Yeah, I have no idea here anymore.

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Go Flames Go

by Justin Azevedo on Mar 16, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Good to have you back Bro, thought you would be gone after your “see you next year” comment last night.

by Rod Blogojevich on Mar 16, 2010 5:06 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

The Flames lost again
Because they played stupidly
Oh well, shit happens

by SmellOfVictory on Mar 16, 2010 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

so you took arik up on his offer, i see !!! that’s awesome !!!!

by walkinvisible on Mar 16, 2010 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah. Flames blogs are popping up all over the place for reason this year.

by Kent Wilson on Mar 16, 2010 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Misery loves company…which is strange, because I much prefer writing something after a win!

by maimster on Mar 16, 2010 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Justin, congrats on becoming another Flames blogger, you are the most hilarious commenter around these parts. I look forward to reading your articles and chuckling at your photoshops.

by M F on Mar 16, 2010 7:58 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Thanks. I will have another post up tomorrow.

The 4th Line Blog
Go Flames Go

by Justin Azevedo on Mar 16, 2010 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

i kindof feel like we all finally broke you…. and you caved…. and it’s awesome. ;)

by walkinvisible on Mar 16, 2010 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Look forward to it.

by M F on Mar 16, 2010 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

From your bloggings I see you’re going for a soci degree! I look forward to hanging out in the unemployment line with you (sociology 4 life).

by SmellOfVictory on Mar 16, 2010 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Will be hard to top the genius of ‘I Go To Toronto.’ Classic.

by Rod Blogojevich on Mar 16, 2010 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Those were the days…. “I go to Toronto” hahaha

by M F on Mar 16, 2010 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Go Guildford Flames Go!
I really believe in you
You can win something

by ArikJames on Mar 16, 2010 4:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Glencross breaks up ice
Penalty shot but no score
Should have asked for two

by maimster on Mar 16, 2010 5:28 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

with head hung in hands
two minutes left on the clock
detroit celebrates

are we the only fans in the universe that uses haiku to ease the pain of loss ?
yes ?
good. ;)

by walkinvisible on Mar 16, 2010 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well if Philly and St Louis can do us a favor tonight that would be grand.

But tomorrow is a must win if Detroit loses that’s even better but we cannot fall 5 points back.

GO FLAMES GO!!!

by CofRed on Mar 16, 2010 5:36 PM PDT reply actions  

NSH currently up by two on Philly. And Boucher is in net for the Flyers.

by Kent Wilson on Mar 16, 2010 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

You just check in here every now and then for a quick downer comment, don’t you! Can’t you see the haiku? Let it fill you with joy!!!

by maimster on Mar 16, 2010 5:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Hey, Im just reporting facts.

Also, most of the haikus were downers too.

by Kent Wilson on Mar 16, 2010 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have no feel for poetry, but somehow haiku is never a downer, no matter the words…must be the rhythm…

by maimster on Mar 16, 2010 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was for you, Kent, and there’s no smiley face because I was informed off-line that I’m supposed to cut those out! Ah, screw them… :-(

by maimster on Mar 16, 2010 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just friends and family who comment via e-mail rather than on the blog…and I’m sure I’ll hear about this chain! :-)

by maimster on Mar 16, 2010 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I see. Any reason they don’t want to comment on the blog itself?

by Kent Wilson on Mar 16, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

The reason he gets abuse for the smilies is because they are simply intolerably girlie.

by FlyingP in Cowtown on Mar 17, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

which is hilariously ironic since kent uses one immediately below.

by walkinvisible on Mar 17, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also…the Avs are currently leading their game ;)

by Kent Wilson on Mar 16, 2010 5:54 PM PDT reply actions  

And Phoenix, and Minnesota…by the end of the year, you’ll need 100 points to make the playoffs in the West, and a pulse to make it in the East…

by maimster on Mar 16, 2010 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

8-2 now. We just cannot get any help. Well, at least the Canucks are losing.

The 4th Line Blog
Go Flames Go

by Justin Azevedo on Mar 16, 2010 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m with Justin. Living in Vancouver, I am so sick of hearing about this team. All day on Team1040 it was, “This is as easy a game as we get all season,” and “No disrespect to the Islanders, but they just can’t compete with the Canucks,” and “These two points are as close to gimme as exists in the NHL.” And for that reason alone I’m happy to see the ’Nucks lose.

When things are so dire looking for the Flames, it’s all about finding pleasure in the little thing. For me, the Canucks losing is that little thing tonight.

by SarahM on Mar 16, 2010 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I assure you that wasn’t me who said that. My brother Justin is the one who wrote that.

by Dustin Azevedo on Mar 16, 2010 9:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Dustin Azevedo?

I think I’ll take Justin’s word for it pal. You aren’t welcome around these parts with your insensitive and RACIST language. You are an idiot.

by M F on Mar 16, 2010 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I doubt someone like Jamal Mayers would take too kindly to crap like that, dude.

by Rod Blogojevich on Mar 16, 2010 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know there’s something terribly wrong when the Flames get spanked by the Canucks and then a few days later the Islanders come along and give them a thrashing.

by SmellOfVictory on Mar 16, 2010 9:40 PM PDT reply actions  

The Flames wore the Canucks out with their physical play a couple nights ago. That explains the result tonight

by M F on Mar 16, 2010 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

GRITTY and PHYSICAL hockey. TOUGH TO PLAY AGAINST

by M F on Mar 16, 2010 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions   3 recs

LOL. Got your shit rec’d for that

by SmellOfVictory on Mar 16, 2010 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Everyone take a drink.

The 4th Line Blog
Go Flames Go

by Justin Azevedo on Mar 16, 2010 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

State of the Blog

Kent, I know you “stepped down” from this blog a few weeks ago and you mentioned how SB Nation was going to find a replacement for you. Have they done this or are they still in the process? Or are you just going to remain as “Manager???”

by M F on Mar 16, 2010 9:51 PM PDT reply actions  

I propose a blogger meet up tomorrow for what happens to be 1. The most important game of the season and 2. St. Paddy’s day. Anyone up for it?

The 4th Line Blog
Go Flames Go

by Justin Azevedo on Mar 16, 2010 9:59 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

In Edmonton bro, can’t make it to Calgary in time.

Dukes anyone?

by M F on Mar 16, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

possibly, but only possibly. i don’t have a job so the game might be too late for me. :)

by walkinvisible on Mar 16, 2010 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha. Regular beer is overrated anyways.

The 4th Line Blog
Go Flames Go

by Justin Azevedo on Mar 16, 2010 10:11 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I’d love to make it dude, but I am out in Saskatoon til the end of the semester.

by Rod Blogojevich on Mar 16, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m actually going to a friends St Patty’s Day Flames Party, With TSN Drinking Games oh please be Pierre between the benches.

I might actually go to one of these m&g meet ups if we have one before the end of the year. But It could be a little awkward but who cares were all friends here.

GO FLAMES GO!!!

by CofRed on Mar 16, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

The level of awkwardness is actually quite low. If not tomorrow, the last PPV game is my pick for one.

The 4th Line Blog
Go Flames Go

by Justin Azevedo on Mar 16, 2010 10:29 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Oh yes the classic 11:00am Mountain Time start.

I’d be down for that.

GO FLAMES GO!!!

by CofRed on Mar 16, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do not understand why the NHL doesn’t want all of it’s games in PT. the only game that should be before 5et is the Sunday game they do on NBC.

The 4th Line Blog
Go Flames Go

by Justin Azevedo on Mar 16, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

But then again, the game could have been scheduled then because it is a PPV game. But even that makes no sense. You want to max out your audience, and putting a game on at 11 does not allow you to do that.

The 4th Line Blog
Go Flames Go

by Justin Azevedo on Mar 16, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yo Justin what is your stance on Domebeers now that you are blogging with his mortal enemy Arik? Do you think he will take kindly to the fact you are a 4th liner now

by Rod Blogojevich on Mar 16, 2010 10:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Nah, I got no beef with DB. The scenery is nice over there. I Also know Arik has no beef with DB anymore, but I’m not sure how DB feels about Arik.

The 4th Line Blog
Go Flames Go

by Justin Azevedo on Mar 16, 2010 10:37 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

i honestly love a community where total strangers can become blogmates.
;)

fyi: i know both of mine, but i DID meet duncan at the inaugural blogger meetup in toronto, when i also met steal thunder, leanne and the formerly dubbed “hockeygirl.”

by walkinvisible on Mar 17, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

It is a lot easier when we all have something in common: our growing resentment of the Flames’ season.

The 4th Line Blog
Go Flames Go

by Justin Azevedo on Mar 17, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bloody Flyers and Blues
They really needed to win
Damn! Damn! Damn! Damn! Damn!

by Resolute on Mar 17, 2010 9:27 AM PDT reply actions  

Haikus are easy.
But sometimes they don’t make sense.
Refrigerator.

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Go Flames Go

by Justin Azevedo on Mar 17, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I used to have that shirt. Then I went to my aftergrad and never saw it again.

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Go Flames Go

by Justin Azevedo on Mar 17, 2010 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously, once the Flames are eliminated for good, a whole open thread for haikus is a must.

by Kent Wilson on Mar 17, 2010 1:26 PM PDT reply actions  

I could see that eclipsing the 1000 post mark.

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Go Flames Go

by Justin Azevedo on Mar 17, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Canuck fans will troll
Planing parades like Mitchell
Second round loss, again

by Resolute on Mar 17, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

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