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Flames Cap Situation 2010/11 and 2011/12


With the Flames extending Matt Stajan earlier today, the plan for the club's cap management for the next two years is beginning to come into focus. The CBA will end after the 2011/12 season, and no one really knows how things will look after that season, so let's look at the numbers for 10/11 and 11/12, and see how the holes can be filled over the next two years.

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Before we get started, let me note that I'm assuming a roster make-up of 14F 7D 2G. All numbers are via the indispensable CapGeek.

 

2010/2011:

 

Current players under contract: 16

Forwards: 9

Hagman-Stajan-Iginla 13.5 million

Bourque-Langkow-Kotalik 10.8 million

Dawes-Glencross-Moss    3.35 million

 

FAs: Nystrom, Conroy, Mayers, McGrattan, Higgins UFA, Boyd RFA

 

Total 27.65 million, and other than a third line center, which might well be Mikael Backlund at 1.275 million, the Flames have a very representative group inked, with a pretty good forward like Moss or GlenX on the fourth line. Add Backlund and four bottom-end types for a total of another 3 million-ish, and the forwards would quite likely max out at around 32 million in 10/11. Moving Kotalik and giving some of his dough to Chris Higgins would be my preferred option, as well as finding a solid bottom six center in case Backlund falters.

 

Defence: 5

 

Regehr-Bouwmeester 10.7 million

Giordano-Sarich 4.491 million

Pardy-? 700K

 

FAs: Johnson UFA, White RFA

 

Total 15.891 million and two guys needed. Moving Sarich seems like the play here, with his contract out-stripping his value. The Flames may or may not see it that way, of course. If White, as rumoured before the trade, is looking for 3.5 million per season the Flames need to move on, and if someone signs him to an offer sheet anywhere near that number, they should take the picks and run. If he comes in at around 2.5 million, the Flames likely would go for it, although they should be very careful about the dollars and term for White with a better player becoming an UFA in the summer of '11. For the sake of this discussion, let's pencil him in at that 2.5 million number, and and 6-700K for a 7th D. The total for the D would be 19 million-ish.

 

Goal: 2

 

Kiprusoff  5.833 million

McElhinney  525K

 

Total 6.358 million, and you have a sub-functional back-up, IMO.

 

Grand total:

32

19

6.358

 

That's 57.358 million, and very likely over the cap by about half a million bucks. In other words, no good. So, what to do?

 

First, these recent signings make it much more likely that Cory Sarich is enjoying his last season in Calgary. Replacing his minutes with Ian White and one more solid guy in the 2 million dollar range would get the Flames to about 55.7 million to get the year started, which would be tighter than I'd prefer, but livable. Given the depth of useful guys in the UFA defence pool and the organizational depth the Flames have on the back-end, this is the obvious spot to trim. I'd also add that if Chris Higgins continues to play well, I'd prioritize him ahead of White. White is RFA, so the Flames do have some control on how he's dealt with. At any rate, moving Sarich and not losing their mind on an Ian White contract should allow the Flames to get through 2010/11 in one piece if they want to keep the current forwards more or less intact. Some shuffling to upgrade the back-up goal position might be a good idea as well, and I doubt I'll get much dissent on that point.

 

With the assumptions in place re: a White contract and Sarich shipping out for a 2 million dollar guy, let's move on:

 

2011/12:

 

Players signed: 11

 

Forwards: 7 + Backlund

 

Hagman-Stajan-Iginla  13.5 million

Bourque-Langkow-Kotalik  10.8 million

Moss-Backlund           2.475 million

 

Key UFAs: Dawes, Glencross

 

Total: 26.775 million with half a dozen spots open, but only 1 in the top nine. That should be manageable for the same sort of money that we looked at for 10/11.

 

Defence: 3 + White

Regehr-Bouwmeester 10.7 million

2 Million Guy-White 4.5 million (est)

 

Key UFAs: Giordano, Pardy

 

Total: 15.2 million with Giordano needing a new deal. His looming FA status is why the Flames shouldn't go nuts on any deal for White. It would either force them to choose White ahead of Giordano, which would be a debatable move at best, or weaken the team elsewhere if the club resorts to overpaying both of them. Since I have them not going too crazy on a White contract, let's give Gio 2.75 million. I'll admit that in light of the Oduya contract last summer the Gio dollar figure could well be low, but we can always hope, and I'll assign the final two spots on the D a collective number of 1.5 million, so that would give an overall D number of 19.425 million.

 

Goal: 1

 

Kiprusoff  5.833 million

 

A back-up making 1 million wouldn't be out of order, would it? Total it up at 6.833 million.

 

Grand Total: 

32 M at forward

19.425 M at defence

6.833 million in net

 

That's 58.258 million, or 1.658 million over this year's cap. That might be doable by then. If the cap is flattish again, the Flames will have to move a useful body of some sort, with the veteran 2 million dollar D I penciled in, Kotalik or Langkow being targets at that point. 

 

Now, of course, Sutter could move a bunch of bodies at any point to change all of this, but it does appear that the Flames can likely manage to run in place to the end of the CBA if they so choose with minimal disruption to the current core. Whether that's a worthwhile plan is an exercise I'll leave to you folks.

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That doesn’t fill me with a lot of hope, frankly, although I like the distribution of dollars a bit better.

Kotalik and Sarich have to go away. Have to.

by Kent Wilson on Mar 1, 2010 7:16 PM PST reply actions  

Kotalik and Sarich have to go away. Have to.

If they want to keep Higgins, no doubt.

I used the phrase “run in place” on purpose, because they don’t have a deep prospect pool, and who knows when a serious game-changing type will reach UFA status. There’s not much for this summer other than maybe Marleau or Plekanec. 2011 might be better if Mikko Koivu hits UFA status, but I don’t think Chuck Fletcher is operating at the Milbury level, so I’d be shocked if he isn’t re-signed at the first chance.

by Robert Cleave on Mar 1, 2010 7:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Indeed.

Remember when were throwing around the “Phaneuf for Heatley” trade around these parts in the off-season. I get the feeling the Flames missed the boat on that one.

by Kent Wilson on Mar 1, 2010 8:18 PM PST up reply actions  

In terms of potential deals, maybe, but from all we’ve heard after the fact, it sounded like Heatley was interested in playing for SJ from the get-go, so he might not have waived his NTC. As I’ve said before, I don’t think the Flames would have debased themselves the way the Oiler brain-trust did to get him to accept a deal, but he was no lock to go to Calgary even if they went that far, hometown or not. I don’t have any hate for the guy, so I think I look at him fairly rationally, but Dany Heatley still strikes me as a complementary player, albeit a very high-end one. Thornton is the guy that makes things go in San Jose. Who would have been his Thornton in Calgary?

by Robert Cleave on Mar 1, 2010 8:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Fair enough. It’s entirely possible he wouldn’t have come here anyways. I probably rate him higher than you do (I’d say he’s probably a superior player to Jarome at this point), but there’s no doubt he wouldn’t have been as effective here, even if he had waived the NTC.

by Kent Wilson on Mar 1, 2010 8:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he’s likely better than Iginla as well, which is pretty much my point. I’m not sure he can be the lead guy. Of course, who am I to say that he, Joker and Iggy wouldn’t have meshed like a well-oiled machine ;-)

by Robert Cleave on Mar 1, 2010 9:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Every analysis of the Flames going forward notes that Sarich (at a minimum) and preferably Kotalik have to go. I just wonder how it is obvious we’ll be able to move Sarich – his contract, though short, is large for anybody to take on and we have to assume teams are intelligent enough to have watched him play. I’m sure anything is possible with the right sweeteners, but the more Sutter backs himself into a corner with all these mid-size deals and tightening space, the less negotiating room he has.

by maimster on Mar 2, 2010 8:54 AM PST up reply actions  

They might Sarich out, but that doesn’t help as much:

CORY SARICH BUYOUT FROM CAPGEEK.COM
2010-2011: $1,066,667
2011-2012: $1,466,667
2012-2013: $1,166,667
2013-2014: $1,166,667

That would force them to fill the 5-6 D spots with guys making a million or less in order to garner any worthwhile cap savings. Pardy would be one of those guys, of course, and one of the kids or a cheap vet would be the other. It’s certainly not optimal, but it would give them some room at the expense of a long term drag on the cap. I guess it works if the cap takes a sharp move up after next year, but I wouldn’t be banking on that sort of scenario.

The other way to go about this would be to consider Ian White as a rental with benefits, if you will. They control his rights, so they can wait until the draft to assess the market for him, and then move him, or let him head into the RFA market. If he gets a good offer, take the compensation. If he doesn’t, you can likely punt the problem down the road by signing him for one season only, like Edmonton did with Grebeshkov, albeit for a smaller dollar amount. The result of that sort of move this time next year would likely be the same as we’re seeing with the Oilers if Sarich can’t be moved in the interim.

As for moving Sarich outright, as long as guys like Sather and Waddell have jobs, Daz might still have people he can deal with, but you’re correct in that Sarich might need to be packaged with an actual asset in order to ease matters.

by Robert Cleave on Mar 2, 2010 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

So does Loubardias

Im curious as to Langkow. Id move him, but then your tredding water re centre depth. 4.5 in capspace is sexy, though.

Seriously…Im stumped, need to see the chalkboard. It looks like the window closed.

by Domebeers.com on Mar 1, 2010 7:44 PM PST reply actions  

I don’t think Langkow is really good value at this point, anymore. If anything could be done to combine him with someone else who’s expendable to get a 1st line centre I would be happy as a clam. If he and Kotalik could be moved in the off-season then their 8.5 hit could be split up between a better centre and some random 3rd/4th line winger while Dawes regained his place on the second line.

by SmellOfVictory on Mar 2, 2010 2:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Looking at next year’s roster, I agree – their best option is to turn Lanks and Kotalik into a true difference maker at forward. With that change, I don’t mind that roster.

by maimster on Mar 2, 2010 8:58 AM PST up reply actions  

If you can’t move Sarich for a pick or a warm body (seriously-not picky here. A monkey would do) then I would have no opposition to having our 5th and 6th d-men make 1.2 million if it means Daz can buy him out. Are we not spending 10 million on two guys who can play over 23 minutes a night? Besides, the cap space saved could well make up the raise either Gio or White deserves. Add in the fact that we have 16 forwards who are NHL capable, we have a little playing room. Not much, but a little.

Go Flames Go
Goals? Where we're going, we don't need goals.

by Justin Azevedo on Mar 3, 2010 12:41 AM PST reply actions  

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