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Flames Gameday - Flyers, Arrivals, Departures

Calgary Flames vs. Philadelphia Flyers

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7:30 PM MT

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It's been a wild weekend, hasn't it? Winning Saturday night in convincing fashion and then awakening to the Phaneuf trade news Sunday morning was...discombobulating. I predicted prior to the Toilet Bowl that there would casualties should the Flames fall to the Oilers, but it's seems the wheels were already in motion. We'll never know what truly spurred the ouster of Dion (Sutter) Phaneuf - be it internal conflict, obvious deficiencies in the organizations forward ranks or the mis-allocation of dollars, but I would imagine the dreadful 9 game losing streak hastened things along, even if all other considerations were valid.

So, Niklas Hagman, Matt Stajan, Jamal Mayers and Ian White make their Flames debut tonight. Stajan with Iginla, Hagman with Jokinen, Mayers with the pluggers and White with Regehr. But that's actually become a secondary story in light of the on-going rumors surrounding the (potential?) Olli Jokinen and Ales Kotalik swap. According to TSN's most recent reports, the deal is still on the table and is likely to be finalized after the game. 

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Of course, a corollary consideration is the potential effect the rumor will have on Jokinen and Prust, given they will ostensibly be playing their last game in Flames silks (well...maybe not Prust. Dudes like herpes 'round these parts). Add in the confusion of four new players trying to find their way in new surroundings and well...you have the makings of class-A cluster-F.

Which isn't good, considering the opponents this evening are pretty damn good. The Flyers suffered through a tough stretch back in November, but have managed to muddle through despite sporting Brian Boucher and Michael Leighton as their goaltending duo while Ray Emery recuperated from a groin injury. They frequently out-shoot their opponents and have three capable forward units featuring the likes of Richards, Carter, Briere, Giroux, Gagne, Hartnell and Van Reimsdyk. The back-end isn't too far off either, boasting Timonen, Pronger, Coburn and Carle (though things get pretty thin after that).

In short, Philly isn't a team one can take lightly. The Flames are basically in disarray at the moment and although there's a usually a bonus "adrenaline" effect for players when they join a new club, I'm not sure that will be enough to overcome the simultaneous expansion and contraction currently going on in the dressing room.

Course, if you're anything like me, the results this evening are next to irrelevant next to to the Jokinen-Kotalik stuff.

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Wow Ian White has a DUI. He and Bouwmeester already have a lot in common

by Rod Blogojevich on Feb 1, 2010 5:14 PM PST reply actions  

Sutter has done good work to replace Keenan who was their lone representative in DUIs. Now I know why Sutter apparently tried to pick up Chelios

by Rod Blogojevich on Feb 1, 2010 5:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Seriously?

With all there is to discuss about the team right now these comments seem irrelevant, immature and in poor taste.

by paul-marc on Feb 1, 2010 5:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Did you join SB Nation solely to comment on that? Sweet !!!! I always knew I had the best insight

by Rod Blogojevich on Feb 1, 2010 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I expect to see some bad highlights

though I will try to watch it live if I can find a feed. I hate living in the EST zone.

by brisulph on Feb 1, 2010 5:16 PM PST reply actions  

Really pumped to see the Four newbies tonight.

Where even Dion Phaneuf can get traded. So don't think your untouchable.

by CofRed on Feb 1, 2010 5:32 PM PST reply actions  

so the dion-is-a-cokehead rumour reared its ugly head today again for me, and the named source seemed a little suspect but possibly legit….. thoughts ?

by walkinvisible on Feb 1, 2010 5:46 PM PST reply actions  

Best friends cousin is good pals with jim Vandermeer. Ive heard a lot of interesting Dion stories.

by Rod Blogojevich on Feb 1, 2010 5:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Keenan was covering for a certain somebody when he called out Giordano when he hurt his shoulder

by Rod Blogojevich on Feb 1, 2010 5:48 PM PST up reply actions  

this source is another player’s wife’s best friend (who lived next door to dion, apparently). sortof a longshot but possible. do your “interesting dion stories” shed any light on why daz might’ve dealt him pretty fast ?

by walkinvisible on Feb 1, 2010 5:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Not really anything specific. But one story was pretty interesting. Apparently Giordano had a girlfriend that Dion wanted to sleep with or something, so Phaneuf bought her a very expensive piece of jewlery (Watch or necklace, I can’t remember off the top of my head).
Anyways, Giordano was pissed and confronted Dion about this, and they ended up getting into a fistfight. Giordano wrecked his shoulder in the process, and had to get surgery. Makes sense to me- not only was the guy who told us really tight with Vandermeer, but let’s face it- do you really think that ‘hit’ by Clutterbuck ruined Gio’s shoulder?
Keenan was probably just both covering Phaneuf and pissed off Giordano got into the scuffle in the first place, so he took it out on him by calling him irresponsible.

by Rod Blogojevich on Feb 1, 2010 5:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Another one- McGratton wasnt signed to play hockey. Sutter saw him as a guy to maybe lend a guiding light to Dion. Maybe Big Ern fell off the wagon instead of helping Dion out and Sutter gave up

by Rod Blogojevich on Feb 1, 2010 6:10 PM PST up reply actions  

i think mcG just made fun of dion all the time…. but the hiring reasons would make sense i guess. not sure if he’s off the wagon, i would think not with the substance abuse program being voluntary and all…

by walkinvisible on Feb 1, 2010 6:17 PM PST up reply actions  

there was also a story that gio and dion stayed after practice on saturday to shoot point shots. as if that would happen if they hated each other.

by walkinvisible on Feb 1, 2010 6:15 PM PST up reply actions  

i heard a version of this story too, but there are definitely holes you can shoot into it:
1. gio’s had the same gf/fiancee for ages. she went with him to russia for cryin out loud.
2. the hit by clutter looks effin’ painful. no way gio was injured before it, no way was gio healthy after it.
3. keenan’s a douche.

by walkinvisible on Feb 1, 2010 6:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, exactly why Gio was so mad. Take it or leave it, I have no doubt its true in my mind.

by Rod Blogojevich on Feb 1, 2010 6:16 PM PST up reply actions  

in my experience, rumours don’t sprout out of nothing.

by walkinvisible on Feb 1, 2010 6:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Unless your name is Eklund.

-Colin

by Colin S on Feb 1, 2010 10:58 PM PST up reply actions  

bets that prust calls out carcillo and just stands there while he gets beaten to a pulp ? broken orbital bone = no trade. ;)

by walkinvisible on Feb 1, 2010 6:21 PM PST reply actions  

Keep Prust

I just can’t see why Sutter would trade Prust again after going out of his way to get him back. Surely he is not the dealbreaker in that hopefully untrue deal.

by paul-marc on Feb 1, 2010 6:25 PM PST up reply actions  

well, who else are you gonna give up ? nystrom ? moss ? glenX ?
i heard moss is a pawn in the next deal anyways.

by walkinvisible on Feb 1, 2010 6:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Moss

I’d give up Moss for sure and make Lundmark permanent. Nystrom maybe. Not sure that he appeals to NYR though. If they want tough they can have McGrattan. Though this all moot cause I don’t want to see Kotalik as a Flame and I’m iffy on Higgins.

by paul-marc on Feb 1, 2010 6:34 PM PST up reply actions  

no the NEXT next deal.

by walkinvisible on Feb 1, 2010 6:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Next Next Deal

Of all the rumours in this situation the next Next deal is the one that I don’t believe in. Maybe Sutter is working on something but I can’t see Nieuwendyk, Waddell or any GM saying “I can’t do this unless you get me Kotalik and Higgins.”

by paul-marc on Feb 1, 2010 7:19 PM PST up reply actions  

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