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Flames Game Day: Deep Waters

 


HP Pavilion

8 PM MT

Opposition: Fear The Fin

TV: Sportsnet West

There isn't much to say about last night's game, really. McE let in a couple that just can't go in, and a game where the Ducks gifted the Flames three breakaway goals ended, as all games in Orange County have the last several years, in a loss. Tonight, Calgary heads up the road to the Shark Tank for a date with a team that, while excellent, seems to be a club the Flames can match up with.

Star-divide

 

The boss decided to scramble the lines for last night's game, with Iginla and Conroy joining Glencross. Funny game for Iggy, that one. He was largely a peripheral player in the first two periods, and was plus 3. He, like most of the other Flames, had his struggles when Getzlaf and Perry were on the ice, but even when they weren't, it was a muted night for the captain. With the mixed lines, I wonder how the Flames will approach a team that loads its top two lines in the manner San Jose does?

Olli Jokinen worked with Lundmark and Nystrom, and you got to see the potential when he plays soft comp, as Jokinen scored and tallied nine SOG. He can beat easier match ups, occasionally even with lesser line mates. What he can't do is beat the elite players all that often, and Sutter hung him out to dry when he ran that line against Getzlaf in the third. We can bitch about what Olli Jokinen should be, but if you accept what he actually is, why on earth would the coach stick him in that spot, and with Nystrom and Lundmark in tow? Carlyle lives for those sorts of moments as a hard core line matcher, and he caught the Flames asleep, IMO. If we see them in that spot against Thornton or even Pavelski, things may get ugly.

Langkow and crew were pretty quiet, which really shouldn't matter when the team scores four, although he and Dawes could stand to see a few pucks go in any day now. If they match with Pavelski, Clowe and Setoguchi, they'll need to score to make these lines work.

 

The D wasn't as bad as the five goals, but they were still a bit soft, and Cory Sarich had another night he'd rather forget, getting beat wide on the Artyukhin goal, even if you accept that his goalie left him in the lurch. San Jose, for all their prowess, isn't the fastest team in the league, so the back line might be OK if the Flame forwards manage their responsibilities.

 

Kipper will go tonight, which is a relief. He was excellent the last time the Flames played in San Jose, and after the effort McE put up last night, Kiprusoff might not get a break until the Olympics. The Artyukhin goal went right through the Flame back up and the Ryan goal, good shot though it was, was from an angle that should be covered. If you watched the game, Ryan Getzlaf hit McE in the crest during the first period, but the far side top corner was as exposed as it was on the game-winner. Losing your net as often as he did is not a sign of a goalie with his shit together, to be blunt.

 

The Sharks are in their standard mode, 7-2-1 in their last ten, and it's no surprise where the scoring comes from. The Thornton line all reside in the league's top 12 in points, and simply have to be held down to keep the game in range. The Pavelski line is just OK this year, and the forward depth behind the top six is pretty bland, really. If you asked me what separates a healthy Chicago team from the Sharks, it's the bottom six, with a decided edge in the Hawks' favour. Their top four D are solid enough, with the underrated Marc-Edouard Vlasic often acting as the main shutdown D. The Sharks stick him in the bad ice against good players, and he does quite well by the advanced metrics. They do run guys like Kent Huskins out there on the third pair, which might be the sort of thing an opposing coach might want to keep in mind. Let's put it this way; I'd bet a pile of good money Randy Carlyle would notice.

 

Game wise, I'm not counting on a bunch of breakaways, or the Flames' goaltender losing his net on every second shot, so last night should just be ignored as some sort of form chart. The key to the game is likely to be whatever forward line Sutter uses against Thornton surviving. My suspicion is that the Regehr-Phaneuf duo will get a heavy dose of the Sharks' top trio, and that would be quite a sensible move. Robyn Regehr might struggle at times with his quickness, but Joe Thornton is the sort of big, semi-stationary target that he can normally manage well against. Given the PP deployment we saw last night, maybe he can even chip in a goal from his new perch in front of the net ;-)

 

Game time is 8 MT on Sportsnet West. 

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If I ran this team it would be Iggy-Lanks-Bourque in front of Bouwmeester-Regehr against the Sharks big 3. We might lose or break even on the depth battle but I’ll be pissed if we lose the top line battle because Sutter is incapable of accepting what his players can and can’t do.

by R O on Jan 18, 2010 2:27 PM PST reply actions  

Yes, this. Why can’t we at least see Iginla-Langkow-Bourque get a solid try? I know it leaves the rest of the lines a little thin, but from we-need-to-score-goals standpoint, it makes the most sense, and it shouldn’t be a disaster defensively.

by SarahM on Jan 18, 2010 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

while i have always been a backelhinney supporter, i also wonder where he was last night. in saying that, is it possible that the violent whack to his noggin (via a corey perry delivered net) might have shaken him enough to be sloppy but not enough to be replaced ? he looked pretty sharp leading up until that moment……

by walkinvisible on Jan 18, 2010 2:40 PM PST reply actions  

…. and he lost his net faster than you can say “Woody Knebel”

by Calgarian in SJ on Jan 18, 2010 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

i only just found that site yesterday and lurked around…. mr. moquin (who taught me grade 11 social) and mr pope (grade 7 math at branton) are the only other familiar names…. crazy. knebel’s been at abe for over two decades, man…..

by walkinvisible on Jan 18, 2010 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Vlassic

Can anyone tell me what this means:

“The Sharks stick him in the bad ice against good players, and he does quite well by the advanced metrics. "

Thanks,
Sam

by SamAlvis on Jan 18, 2010 5:04 PM PST reply actions  

I just joined this blog too.
Behind the net and time on ice are good starting places.

by Rod Blogojevich on Jan 18, 2010 5:13 PM PST up reply actions  

if i’m not mistaken (and kent/robert could help you further, no doubt) it means that vlasic spends a lot of time working own zone faceoffs and/or PK shifts, and does quite well by corsi and other advanced statistics that tell you more than +/- (but are in the same theoretical vein).

by walkinvisible on Jan 18, 2010 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

It means Vlasic gets the toughest job on the ice for a defensemen – the coach sends him out for a lot of own zone draws against other teams best players. The fact that he’s not a big minus means he does well despite the tough circumstances.

by Kent Wilson on Jan 18, 2010 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

This doesn’t really have much to do with tonight’s game (other than the fact that a Sharks fan reminded me of it on another post), but I really can’t figure out why so many people say they hate the Flames. I don’t see people saying they hate the Oilers and hate the Canucks or Senators, etc. but a lot say they hate the Flames, and I’ve never been able to understand just why. That said, GO FLAMES!

by Icedragon on Jan 18, 2010 5:06 PM PST reply actions  

Really? A ton of people hate the Canucks. The majority of NW div fans who are not Vancouver fans absolutely loathe them, from what I’ve seen. I think the people who hate the Flames most are their own fans, to be honest. =D

by SmellOfVictory on Jan 18, 2010 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, I’m not saying people don’t hate a team like the Canucks, I know I do…but rather that I don’t see people as often vocally displaying their hatred for the Canucks as they do for the Flames. Given that I can see WHY people might hate the Canucks too, it begs the question even more, why do so many people hate the Flames, especially since they really aren’t anything like the Canucks.

by Icedragon on Jan 18, 2010 5:39 PM PST up reply actions  

In Vancouver, the people who are not Vancouver fans HATE the Canucks. With a burning passion. Although to be fair, I’m not sure how much of that hatred is directed at the team itself, and how much of it is directed at the fans…. Amongst the people I talked hockey with while living in Quebec last year, no one gave the teams out here much thought at all, though I would say that Calgary was more well-liked than Vancouver or Edmonton, with the possible exception of Luongo, who tended to be universally well-loved.

by SarahM on Jan 18, 2010 5:29 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s because the Canucks are anchored by whining divers who people over-rate. Sure, the Sedin sisters have some skill, but they are nowhere close to being the best players in the league.

by Justin Azevedo on Jan 18, 2010 7:05 PM PST up reply actions  

well this is a good game…

by Adi C on Jan 18, 2010 9:31 PM PST reply actions  

The flames have got to try to make some trades pretty darn quick. Get rid of Jokinen, Conroy, Nystrom, even Phaneuf….clear up some money on this lousy defense and get some forwards who are compatible and can put some pucks in the net while also playing smart defensive hockey. A 9-1 loss to SJ, sheesh…I can’t even bring myself to watch their games anymore….there goes 150 bucks for Center Ice.

by Pucker37 on Jan 18, 2010 9:35 PM PST reply actions  

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