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Pre-season BOA Post-mortem: Fourth Rate

 

It isn't often that a team's foot soldiers get much credit, and to be fair, that's normally for good reason, because 4th liners shouldn't determine a team's ultimate success. On occasion, however, they can give a team a boost when the top players are off. The Flames got one of those efforts tonight in their 5-3 win over the Oilers, and Jason Jaffray and Brandon Prust did themselves considerable good in their quest to gain full time NHL employment.

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The two forwards, along with Colin Stuart, showed that at the very least, the bottom-enders on the roster shouldn't be complacent. Competition from below is always a valuable commodity, so if Eric Nystrom or Dustin Boyd were watching, they shouldn't need much more incentive to up their effort when they get their next chance to play. Prust in particular has been very good the last two games, which is a very nice sign for those of us that would prefer the team not carry a designated enforcer. 

 

The other fringe NHLer in play amongst the forwards, Theo Fleury, started well, but he was very quiet in the last two periods. He is always going to struggle along the wall in his own end, and he had a couple of stretches tonight where he wasn't able to clear the puck under pressure. He isn't a dumb guy out there though, and he still knows not to push himself too far. Whatever I might think about his defensive play, he's +4 in 4 games, and that's good, regardless of competition or teammates. 

 

The big guns up front were, with the notable exception of Jarome Iginla, a bit quiet. Langkow and Bourque were peripheral figures, and Olli Jokinen had one of those sleeper games he's notorious for. Iginla was good, with a 5 vs. 3 goal, which shocked me, because the Flames are usually dreadful with 2 extra men. His act of dispossession that led to Sjostrom's goal was almost unfair, because Jason Strudwick is never likely to have a chance in that scenario.

 

Curtis Glencross was excellent. and frankly, if I wrote "Curtis Glencross is excellent" and nothing else about him in every pre-game I do until year's end, I wouldn't often have to eat my words after the fact. Quick to the puck, smart when he gets it, it's all good. Pre-season aside, I'm not quite convinced that he'll score a zillion goals, but he's pure value. Thanks, Kevin Lowe!

 

The defence was a bit of a mixed bag, with the first pair struggling a bit. On the flip side, Anton Stralman and Adam Pardy certainly helped themselves with +3 nights. Stralman looked very good working with Giordano on the second PP, and has just about cinched a spot, IMO. There will be nights that the going gets a bit too physical for him, but he's still on the climb in terms of development. I hope he plays enough to continue improving, and given the Flames' injury history on defence, he may well. Matt Pelech and Staffan Kronwall can likely begin apartment hunting in Abbotsford.

 

Miikka Kiprusoff started the game allowing one of those goals again, as J.F. Jacques floated on through him to give the Oilers an early 2-1 lead. He settled after that., with better positioning and rebound control. He's still in pre-season mode, so I hope he plays most of the game Saturday. As Kent noted in the game thread, it looked like he snapped to after allowing his soft goal for the night. That's not really where he needs to be, but October isn't here yet, so the era of good feeling endures. 

 

As for the Oilers, they were a little soft on the back end, and other than Dustin Penner, Jacques and maybe Ryan Stone, they didn't look all that interested up front, either. Penner does look as if he'll miss Craig MacTavish like a toothache, and if he had a good year, I'd not be shocked at all.

 

In all, the Flames looked solid enough. They played against an NHL-ish roster and controlled matters fairly well. Then again, if you watched the internet feed provided by the Oilers, you might think that the Flames were the unjust beneficiaries of rogue officials. Don't ever change, Rod Phillips, don't ever change. The pre-season ends for the Flames Saturday when Vancouver visits the 'Dome. The proper roster give or take one or two extras should be on ice that night for both teams. The game will be on TSN2 at 7 PM MT.

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I still don’t know what we have with Nigel Dawes. With Boyd, there’s often flashes even if he doesn’t put together a consistently solid outing. Dawes, on the other hand, can completely disappear. It’s too bad Boyd got hurt so early, because it would have been nice to see how he and Dawes compare in similar circumstances (rather than Boyd serving as the Captain of the “B” squad).

by Kent Wilson on Sep 23, 2009 10:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, as Res said in the game thread, he was waived for a reason, and it may take some time to get his play to the consistent level we’d all like. Boyd being hurt is typical of his luck as a pro so far. I still think he’ll get chances to move up during the year if his play warrants, because I don’t see Brent Sutter taking the Keenan approach of burying some guys and coddling others. Of course, Dion Phaneuf might prove the exception to the rule in that regard, but I’ll give Sutter B. some rope until evidence presents its self to the contrary.

by Robert Cleave on Sep 23, 2009 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Totally agree on the Dawes point, hasn’t impressed me too much. With a potential top 6 role for the taking he is trailing behind. GlenX on the other hand… Boyd also is going to have his work cut out for him when he gets back but will hopefully be given a chance to shine.
Really liking Stralman in the top 6-7, 2nd pairing PP. Jaffery is also winning me over with his ability to chip in and not back down from the rough stuff, if he actually has a shot or not is another story with the massive log jam in the bottom 6.

Please let the Kipper of the 2nd and 3rd period be the one we see more often than Kiprusoft of the 1st.

by Deaner17 on Sep 23, 2009 10:51 PM PDT reply actions  

What about a Goalie?

Who is going to goal-tend behind Kirpusoff? Is it settled? David Shantz-johnny-come-lately looks good and has an impressive pre-NHL career. Fleury will be tough to keep down-he is such a fan-favourite. Whoever plays against Vancouver is important, it might be the last time to impress the Sutters and win a spot. Nice to know when injuries happen that there are qualified replacements. Personally I’d like to see a trade or some more moves, we need to look at the highest paid players and then look at players like Glencross and say-lets find a couple more-if possible.

by budgie d on Sep 23, 2009 11:10 PM PDT reply actions  

The goaltending is pretty much set. Shantz doesn’t have a big league contract at this point and has only played in a period of pro hockey. Curtis McElhinney, as nervous as people are about him, has the more impressive resume by far.

That said, if someone start impressing in the minors (Irving, etc.) and McElhinney continues to struggle all bets are off.

by Kent Wilson on Sep 24, 2009 5:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I’m guessing McBackup is going to get the backup job out of the gate…but the guys in Abbotsford are definitely going to be playing for his spot. I say if he has two McBackup- like performances within the first two months he’ll become McStarter in the AHL. How long of a leash do you guys think he has?

Spreading that Calgary Flames, Montreal Expos, The U, and Orlando Magic love.

by KingJafi on Sep 24, 2009 6:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bouwmeester

Since I haven’t been able to watch quality live feeds of the games, can you guys give me your thoughts on Jay B.? It doesn’t seem anyone is raving about him nor are they bashing him either. No news is good news?

Spreading that Calgary Flames, Montreal Expos, The U, and Orlando Magic love.

by KingJafi on Sep 24, 2009 6:43 AM PDT reply actions  

Imagine Kirpusoff Injured?

Goaltending is an issue if Kirpusoff gets hurt-we have relied on him to the point of exhaustion. Kirp need to rest for a game here and there, he has great composure but it seems he’s either very hot-one of the best-or quite average some games-not to mention that defence and back checking help the goaltender-both of which should improve with Sutter coaching. Due to salaries we have a great prospect in Shantz instead of a proven NHL goalie.
Bowmeister has been playing 25 minutes a game so you know he’s being pushed into a top defence role-power-play, penalty-killing, and regular shifts. Phaneuf will be interesting, he should be one of our best-we’ll see how he gets along with the new coach. Giordano once again proves to be a top 4 defenceman, and he can handle the puck and skate above average-I’m glad he didn’t stay in Russia. Bottom line can our line-up knock off a Detroit, Pittsburgh, or SanJose? If not, make some moves-get rid of an expensive veteran who will be a free-agent soon, bring in a young talent or get a very high draft pick and save some money for trade dead-line acquisition.

by budgie d on Sep 24, 2009 7:46 AM PDT reply actions  

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