Flames pre-season Game Day: Toon Time
Calgary Flames vs NY Islanders
Game Time : 7:00 MT
Opposition: Lighthouse Hockey
Coverage: Fan 960 (radio only)
The Flames play their first of three games in three nights at Credit Union Centre in Saskatoon this evening, with the Islanders once again providing the opposition. Their encounter on Thursday was a sleepy one, with nothing of note occurring. Just another pre-season game, absent any compelling story line at all.
In all seriousness, if Thursday's game was one of intrigue going in, and controversy coming out, tonight's encounter has the possibility of being a game that will be carefully watched by the league, and not because of the quality of the competition on the ice.
There's been plenty of virtual ink spilled regarding the Phaneuf hit, and frankly I won't waste much more. I wasn't crazy about the fashion the hit was delivered, and said so Thursday night, but it's done. The league ruled about as I expected, and I'm very happy Kyle Okposo wasn't badly injured. Dion Phaneuf believes that his effectiveness relies in part from riding right on the edge, and when you play that way, there will be potential for something like this to occur. It's possible that Phaneuf remaining in Calgary tonight will take the air out of things, with the Islanders choosing to wait until the teams meet March 25th to settle up, should they feel the need.
Beyond all that, I understand the excitement of watching a big hit, I'm hardly immune from enjoying it, and it's hard to argue against the fact that the Flames were better by a very wide margin after it occurred. However, without going into things too much, I have an immediate family member who suffered a traumatic brain injury last winter, although not from a concussion. It's no good, people. When I see what happened Thursday, I'm always mindful of the effect that brain injuries, even of the "mild" variety, can have on someone. If that makes me insufficiently bloodthirsty, so be it. It's simply that a case of unfortunate life experience has made me unwilling to immediately join the hallelujah chorus. Your mileage may vary, and differing opinions, as always, are welcome.
The game tonight will showcase a different line-up from the group that beat the Isles on Thursday. Shoot-out hero Theo Fleury stayed in Calgary as well, and Gord Baldwin, Riley Armstrong and Keith Seabrook were included in the travelling party, so it's another AHL+ type of line-up for the Flames. The following list is from Peter Maher's conversation with Rob Kerr yesterday. If an actual roster appears somewhere, please post it in comments if I haven't gotten to it.
Forwards:
Boyd, Stuart, Jaffray, R. Armstrong, Glencross, Chucko, Van Der Gulik, Greentree, Lundmark, Nystrom, Prust, Murray.
Maher mentioned that 13 forwards traveled, so there's one more that he didn't mention or I missed.
Defencemen:
Pardy, Pelech, Negrin, Baldwin, Sarich, Seabrook, Kronwall.
Maher never mentioned any goalies.
Jaffray and Stuart get their third consecutive look, which might give a hint as to who's in the running for the last roster spot should the Flames choose to go with 14 forwards at the start of the year. I'll also be curious to hear about the work of Keith Seabrook. As for goalies, I almost hope that Kiprusoff is one, because lord knows he looks like he could use the practice, based on Thursday's effort.
The opposition tonight are already banged up, with Weight and Bergenheim suffering groin injuries in Edmonton, Franz Nielsen needing a knee scope that will sideline him for at least a month, and Okposo still recovering from his concussion. The Isles led the league in games lost to injury last season, so that's not the start an already thin team needs. John Tavares sat in Calgary, which suggests to me he'll be on ice tonight. I would be curious to hear if Kevin Poulin gets another game somewhere along the line, because he was very good against the Flames two nights ago.
"Hear", of course, is the operative word this evening, since there's no video coverage as far as I know. The game starts at 7 PM MDT, with coverage on the Fan 960.
Update: Tonight's probable roster, via the official site:
| Flames Probable Roster vs. Islanders | |||
| 54 | Armstrong, Riley | RW | |
| 67 | Baldwin, Gord | LD | |
| 16 | Boyd, Dustin | C | |
| 62 | Chucko, Chris | RW | |
| 39 | Germyn, Carsen | RW | |
| 20 | Glencross, Curtis | LW | |
| 47 | Greentree, Kyle | LW | |
| 38 | Jaffray, Jason | LW | |
| 8 | Kronwall, Staffan | LD | |
| 45 | Lundmark, Jaime | C | |
| 41 | Murray, Garth | LW | |
| 61 | Negrin, John | LD | |
| 23 | Nystrom, Eric | LW | |
| 7 | Pardy, Adam | LD | |
| 56 | Pelech, Matt | RD | |
| 33 | Stuart, Colin | LW | |
| 42 | Prust, Brandon | LW | |
| 6 | Sarich, Cory | RD | |
| 43 | Seabrook, Keith | RD | |
| 6 | Stuart, Colin | LW | |
| 6 | Van der Gulik, David | LW | |
| 36 | Keetley, Matt | G | |
| 1 | McElhinney, Curtis | G | |
Carsen Germyn is the extra forward, with Curtis McElhinney getting his first look in the pre-season. Matt Keetley also gets an opportunity to erase the memory of a so-so effort on Tuesday.
Upper-date: Lines here via the Herald; McE gets the first 40 minutes in net, and no Tavares. If the Isles don't go looking for a pound of flesh, this really could be a sleeper.
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i’m not into blaming the victim, but it seems to me that all of the current discussion on the okposo hit is kindof moot. was dion headhunting ? did he leave his feet ? did he get an elbow up ? who knows ???? why don’t we start talking about whether or not okposo would have gotten concussed if he had his equipment (read: helmet) on properly….
That’s all fair. If anyone saw the Oiler game last night, J.F. Jacques stepped right out of the penalty box in the first period last night and absolutely freight-trained Backman from Florida. Backman got up, a fight ensued, because that’s what happens in these matters nowadays, and that was that. If he’s lying on the ice for 10 minutes, maybe we’re hearing same stuff about that play. The injury to the player almost always drives people’s responses, and I’m not much different in that regard to anyone else.
by Robert Cleave on Sep 19, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
And in Minnesota, Belanger ran Chimera from behind sending the latter off on a stretcher. He got a boarding major, but there was no fighting major. Kinda funny how what was evidently a much worse action has seen almost no virtual ink spilled, much less any real ink like George Johnson wasted. Guess the absence of 15 you tube clips kinda dulls the pitchforks.
I’m guessing one of the other reasons is the Belanger play is less controversial. Pretty much everyone can agree that the hit was a penalty and we can all move on. The Phaneuf play, on the other hand, is polarizing and ripe for debate.
by Kent Wilson on Sep 19, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Debate, sure. But where’s the blind outrage, and calls for a 10-12 game suspension? Jackets fans are pansies compared to Islander fans!!!
I don’t know. I think Phaneuf has just become a guy everyone loves to hate.
by Kent Wilson on Sep 19, 2009 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know. I think Phaneuf has just become a guy everyone loves to hate
This. Some guys are always lightning rods, and Phaneuf’s style and personality play to that.
by Robert Cleave on Sep 19, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I find it somewhat odd that Brian McGrattan hasn’t figured into the line-up yet (although, with the incomplete info we have about tonight, maybe he’s in and we don’t know it). I know the guy has a certain “role” to fill and it may not matter too much what kind of game shape he’s in, but it’s not like he was an everyday NHler last season either. He’s played all of 43 games in the last two seasons combined and has some rather serious question marks surrounding not only his physical readiness, but psychological as well.
If we’re going to waste a roster spot on him, we might as well see what we have.
I gather McGrattan was still in a yellow jersey as of a few days ago, so maybe he isn’t ready.
by Robert Cleave on Sep 19, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
i’ve read that mcG is still wearing a yellow no-contact jersey after recent shoulder surgery.
ie: sutter signed a dud.
not only that, but i was thinking about it when jokinen found himself in a rare dust-up in backlund’s defense the other night: mcG will NEVER be on the ice to “protect” anyone good.
by walkinvisible on Sep 19, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah. That’s problem #32234234 with dressing a goon who can’t play hockey at this level.
by Kent Wilson on Sep 19, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
His being hurt might be a bonus. If the team manages without him, and doesn’t get “pushed around”, whatever the hell that means, the Sutters might not feel so strongly about dressing him.
by Robert Cleave on Sep 19, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Ahh, I like the way you think.
Although, I personally think there’s been ample evidence of the total needlessness of the enforcer the last couple of seasons, but Sutter keeps on bringing them in anyways.
by Kent Wilson on Sep 19, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Rather disappointed the Flames are sending another AHL squad out. Would have been nice to send a big name or two out for the Saskatoon fans.
I know. Kind of odd the Flames are playing all the stars together in the preseason – you’d think you’d mix it up a bit.
Looks like they’re being extra-careful with Rene Bourque as well. I wonder if he’ll make it into any games before the real stuff gets going?
by Kent Wilson on Sep 19, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
i hope they give bourque another month or so…. two weeks at least.
by walkinvisible on Sep 19, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks for the update. Dustin Boyd, Cory Sarich, Curtis Glencross and 17 guys named Duane.
by Kent Wilson on Sep 19, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
As someone who lives in an AHL town, I know an AHL outfit when I see it. If I were one of the good burghers of Saskatoon, paying between 35-75 bucks to watch this aggregation might leave me a bit frosted. AHL tickets in Winnipeg aren’t cheap by the league standard, and most of them range between 30-40 dollars on a walk-up basis. Of course, the prices for the Edmonton-Tampa game at the MTS Centre next week range between 39-119 dollars, so maybe our Saskatchewan friends are getting a relative bargain. That said, if I didn’t have a pretty strong rooting interest in a team, there’s no way in hell I’d pay that for the pre-season, and I say that as someone who’d buy season tickets in a heartbeat if the NHL ever came back to Winnipeg.
by Robert Cleave on Sep 19, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions

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