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QC Flames Quality of Competition

Gabe Desjardins recently created a Quality of Competition stat for last year's AHL season, similar to the one he employs for the NHL over at behindthenet. It's not quite the same, because the quality and level of data available from the AHL isn't quite up to snuff, so it's based on Jonathan Willis' approach which does tend to correlate well with Gabe's process. Neither is perfect, but, as the saying goes "it's the best we have right now".

Anyways, I combed through the database and put together the QC Flames results - many of which surprised the hell out of me, to the degree that I am questioning the findings.

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First, the data:

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- The players are listed in order from toughest to weakest competition. The range is seemingly small (.261 - .217), but the truth is a tenth of a point is significant through this method. For example, Riley Armstrong's .261 QUALCOMP was in the 80th percentile in the league while Baldwin's .217 was in the 7th percentile.

- I've highlighted new comers that weren't on the club last year. Take their QUAL COMP rating with a pinch of salt, since rankings don't seem to to translate well across teams. Good to see all of them were in the black in terms of ES plus/minus though.

- The Flames rankings don't make a lick of sense to me, based on what I know about the players. Seitsonen, Cracknell and Carpentier facing the toughest match-ups? Vets like Van Der Gulik and Germyn at the bottom? Palin facing the toughest competition on the team, while Pardy doesn't even break-even against bottom-tier guys?

All I can, is: if this is representative of what happened last year - yikes. The team was clearly lousy based on the fact that most of the players were underwater at ES...but, from what I can determine from this and assuming sample size issues aren't scuttling the results completely, it looks like McGill spent the year either rolling all 4 forward lines without regard for match-ups OR he concentrated mostly on generating favorable conditions for his modest stable of scorers and fed the rest of the patch-work group to the wolves. I mean, really...JD Watt shouldn't be playing against anyone of any ability. He's an ECHL level hockey player. And yet, there he is, ahead of guys like Lundmark and VDG.

Other stuff:

- Gabes spreadsheet included some other information, including 5on5 and 5on4 scoring for each player which I excluded in the above table for the sake of clarity. Issues of interest: Kris Chucko actually scored more ES goals than Kyle Greentree* (18 to 11), who apparently garnered most of this totals with the man advantage. That alters my perception of Greentree as one of the top prospects in the system for sure and moves Chucko up a peg.  

*(caveat - data was actually missing from some of the AHL gamesheets, so not all of Greentree's goals were accounted for. There's a chance he actually equalled - or surpassed - Chucko's ES totals, but we can only work with what we're given).

- Im stunned to see VDG at the bottom of the list. At least he was one of few regular skaters to outscore the bad guys I guess.

- Based on this, I'd have to say Matt Pelech is further away than I thought. He played most of the season, was relatively sheltered and had very marginal results. He looked alright in very limited NHL action last year and he seemed head-and-shoulders above the other kids at the prospect camp, but...for someone supposedly knocking on the door, he sure didn't get a lot accomplished last season.

- A corsi rate for these players would be really, really useful. As far as I know, the AHL doesn't track shots well enough to develop that measure, however.

- Finally, we can see why Sutter concentrating on firming up the farm team this year. Last year's group, even with guys like Greentree and Lundmark playing better than expected, was awful. The additions of Backlund, Jaffary, Armstrong, Negrin, Seabrook, Kronwall and Stralman will likely make this a vastly improved club.

- Next up...Junior Qual comp!

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It certainly doesn’t seem to mix perfectly with everything we saw last season, Kent. Peters, VDG and Lundmark all came up, and none of them looked out of place as NHL 4th liners on a decent team. Judging by this, however, Lundmark and Peters were terrible in QC last year, particularly given their experience.

Pelech’s numbers ring a bit more true. I’d gathered that guys like Eriksson and Palin were playing against the other teams’ better players last year. I also seem to recall that Pelech was somewhere around -10 at the mid-point of the season before improving his play. Maybe McGill gave him easier match-ups to help him out? He’s still young, and to cop a premise of Lowetide’s, watching young defencemen develop is bit like watching the movement of glaciers. He’ll be a veteran on the back-end in Abbotsford this season, so I’ll be curious as to the match-ups Playfair gives him, and what sort of overall workload he gets. Even if the Flames hadn’t signed Kronwall, I didn’t expect Pelech to be more than a 7th D in Calgary this season. He needs to play 20-22 hard minutes a night in the AHL to take the next step in his development.

One last thing, we don’t have the access to numbers for the AHL that we’ve gotten used to in the bigs, so not having Corsi, face-off data or EV SV%/PDO numbers leaves us somewhat in the dark. This work of Gabe’s, and the work Jonathan Willis did to kick-start things are good opening efforts given the limits of the data they’re stuck with.

by Robert Cleave on Aug 30, 2009 8:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Judging by this, however, Lundmark and Peters were terrible in QC last year, particularly given their experience.

Terrible might be a bit strong, but it’s certainly surprising. Like Greentree, Lundmark did a majority of his damage on the PP – the team as a whole just couldn’t seem to score at ES – even though he didn’t consistently play against the big boys. As for VDG, at least he outscored the softies. It’s not what I assumed their roles would be, but I don’t have any first hand experience that contradicts this data, so…

Another thing that would be useful: SH% and SV%.

by Kent Wilson on Aug 30, 2009 9:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Minor Improvements

Matt Pelech really should be pawned off to his hometown club… He’d make Hal Gill look like Usain on skates. I would like to see Keith Seabrook and Mr Aulie take the ice time that currently is “given” to Pelech and Greentree. Sell them cheap to Rick Peddie pls.

by Niulrana on Aug 31, 2009 5:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Err…Greentree is a forward, so Seabrook won’t be taking any of his minutes.

I was unimpressed with Pelech’s rate of improvement throughout his career, although that may be colored by his draft number and the expectation that he one day becomes a top 4 defenseman. Especially when guys picked after him in the draft like Cody Franson look to be about 3 or 4 steps ahead.

Looks like Sutter picked up Stralman and Kronwall for a reason. Pelech ain’t ready, unless something “clicks” for the kid this season.

by Kent Wilson on Aug 31, 2009 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

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