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Flames Sign Brian McGrattan


To say I'm disappointed in this signing is probably understating it. The uselessness of a goon has been demonstrated over and over again the last few years, but Sutter refuses to give up his safety blanket.

On top of all that, McGrattan is a terrible, terrible hockey player - one plagued by substance abuse issues. In 148 NHL games, he's managed 2 goals and 10 points. He played all of 5 games in the big league last year owing to his struggles with addiction.

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McGrattan's inclusion is waste of precious cap dollars and a roster spot - with the signings of guys like Lundmark, Jaffray, Sjostrom and the return of Prust (as well as the presence of Van Der Gulik and Greentree) the Flames were bursting at the seams with players who could provide value at the bottom end. Now, for a least a few games of the season, the Flames will have a liability for a 4th line. It's not a big issue, but it annoys the hell out of me nonetheless because it's so damn unnecessary.

Yuck.

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He’ll be a healthy scratch most of time anyways or playing in Abbotsford if it’s a two-way deal but yeah I have to agree this is a blip on what was Sutter’s great summer but who knows it could be for the best.

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by CofRed on Jul 11, 2009 5:01 PM PDT reply actions  

It’s ownership’s money so I don’t care as long as he is playing in Abbotsford.
But.
Will he play in Abbotsford?

by R O on Jul 11, 2009 5:19 PM PDT reply actions  

I dont think he will. This is a big league signing. Abbotsford has Grantham.

by Kent Wilson on Jul 11, 2009 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I also wouldn’t mind if he’s a healthy scratch every night.

Doubtful, I know. But I’ll hold out hope.

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by Jjjsixsix on Jul 11, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably (hopefully). And in that case, I’d prefer the cap space for future contingencies.

by Kent Wilson on Jul 11, 2009 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sigh.

Cowbells, right? I just don’t get this mentality anymore. If the regular season is about getting ready for playoff hockey, why bother with this sort of player? I didn’t notice Eric Godard (the closest any of the Conference Finalists had to an actual goon) getting much ice time in the post-season. As in zero, actually. Ben Eager’s sort of a tough guy but he’s a hell of a lot better hockey player than McGrattan. The Flames have plenty of team toughness. They won’t be pushed around by very many teams, if any. If the Flames want to piss away half a million bucks, I’d be happy to provide the relevant financial institution information to Darryl Sutter. They’ll get about as much value giving me the money as they will giving it to McGrattan, and I’ll be a hell of a lot happier.

by Robert Cleave on Jul 11, 2009 6:16 PM PDT reply actions  

grrr

I suppose he went with McGrattan instead of Roy because it was cheaper but given the fact that the Flames are missing a bona fide top 6 winger it pisses me off they allocating cap space plus attention on this waste of a roster space.

This only reinforces my view that DaSu is basically going to ride with the group he’s got and if no one steps up, fill the role some time before the trade deadline.

by CalTach on Jul 11, 2009 6:36 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

It’s not even merely cap issue for me. Now we have a reduced chance of guys like VDG and Greentree making the team and providing some value from the 4th line. If there was some value to having some meat head beating up another meat head every so often, I’d be on board but there just isn’t. Every night that McGrattan plays he handicaps everyone he plays with.

by Kent Wilson on Jul 11, 2009 7:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Love this signing...

…but what is up with the substance abuse program?

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by KingJafi on Jul 11, 2009 9:30 PM PDT reply actions  

No specifics were released, but a lot of goons struggle with substance abuse (especially alcohol) owing to the stress of the role.

by Kent Wilson on Jul 11, 2009 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Sun confirms it’s a one-way deal. From the article:

“With a fresh and healthy shoulder, I don’t think too many guys are going to contend with me,” he said. “With that, guys like (Jay) Bouwmeester and (Jarome) Iginla can play how they want and not worry about anybody.”

I don’t understand this reasoning. I really don’t. Are Iginla and Bouwmeester really worried about the oppositions 5 minute/night goons? Does McGrattan being around actually stop them from doing what they do anyways?

by Kent Wilson on Jul 12, 2009 7:10 AM PDT reply actions  

If it all wasn’t so stupid and unneccessary, it’d be funny. Besides, I thought Darryl was coming out of retirement to be the enforcer?!?

Also, Max Talbot proved that getting your ass kicked is a better team motivator than any goon-on-goon action. So, why not let Eric Nystrom get beat up a dozen times this year and use the McGrattan cap hit towards an actual hockey player.

by rich snake on Jul 12, 2009 7:42 AM PDT reply actions  

is it wishful thinking that we’ve got a deal in place to send him back to phoneix ?
(it is, right ?)

well, the good news is that i’m back to hating darryl sutter.

by walkinvisible on Jul 12, 2009 9:15 AM PDT reply actions  

I don’t think this erases all the good he’s done this summer – hell, Brian Burke picked up Colton Orr for 4 years at a million a year. Most GM’s around the league are still making this same, strange decision and some are doing so at a greater price.

It still annoys me though.

by Kent Wilson on Jul 12, 2009 9:23 AM PDT reply actions  

we don’t know how much mcgrattan’s making, and we don’t know the contract length…. this one’ll look pretty bad at 1.1 per for 2 years, but sutter’s due for just that bad of a deal….

by walkinvisible on Jul 12, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

is that confirmed ? is it also confirmed to be a one-year deal ?

by walkinvisible on Jul 12, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

God why? WHY???

by R O on Jul 12, 2009 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am of course despairing of the 1-wayness, which removes all doubt about where he will play.

by R O on Jul 12, 2009 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, there was never any doubt in my mind, so I’m past that sort of despair now.

Sigh.

by Kent Wilson on Jul 12, 2009 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s not so much that I find this annoying because of the cost, because he is playing for the league minimum correct?

It also isn’t so much of a problem because of the cap hit. Likely any ‘enforcer’ or fringe talent player (DVDG or Sjostrum etc.) will be the one extra guy sitting in the press box watching games in a suit from one night to the next.

It also isn’t so much that he is a terrible hockey player compared to other enforcers (I.E. Roy, or Goddard or….)

What really bothers me about this is exactly what you have said Kent. If he’s none of these things, then why sign him? Whether we get him for 50,000 or 500,000 I don’t see any value in signing this guy. He sounds problematic (substance abuse issues) and he does nothing well from a hockey side of things. I don’t read anything about him being particularly liked, or good in the dressing room. So what can he do well other than punch?

I guess Sutter just views him as the best potential out of a cheap option and that’s it. Akin to Bertuzzi. Which is boring, tired and frightening. We just picked ourselves up a non-factor, because we could.

by LawrenceS on Jul 12, 2009 9:25 AM PDT reply actions  

Also, now we’ve just given reason for that asshat Boogard to play.

by LawrenceS on Jul 12, 2009 9:27 AM PDT reply actions  

Not really. Boogaard is in the same bucket – he chucks knuckles, but otherwise is pretty worthless. Whether or not we have McGratton Boogaard will do what he is paid to do for his 4 minutes of ice time a night: try to hurt people.

by Resolute on Jul 12, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

McGrattan's good to have

He was with the Senators for a long time. Yes, he was traded from the Senators, and it wouldn’t be unreasonable to suggest his substance abuse problems were part of the reasoning for that trade—he was part of a cleansing of the Ottawa Senators locker room that still hasn’t finished yet. But he’s possibly the best fighter in the league, and is surprisingly fast for his size, and can actually hit. I will say this: He can certainly play a regular fourth-line role, with 4-6 minutes per night, and be quite the opposite of a liability.

I’d also like to make a comment about the ‘substance abuse’ problems: He’s been through the PA’s substance abuse program. The fact that he chose to get involved with it, has gone through the whole process, and is still looking to stay in the league should be a good sign. While that kind of program doesn’t always work on the first try, I think you should give the guy the benefit of the doubt.

When he was with Ottawa, I was routinely disappointed with the coaching staff’s decision to seriously limit his ice time. Check out this post, from my old blog, if you want to read more about it: http://sensarmy.blogspot.com/2007/12/mcgrattan-deserves-better.html

by Peter Raaymakers on Jul 12, 2009 9:36 AM PDT reply actions  

Ok, well… that endorsement at least makes me feel very slightly better. I like to hear that he has some skating ability

by LawrenceS on Jul 12, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not to mention at least the guy’s going to be super-motivated at what has to be his last shot in the bigs.

by yrmom on Jul 13, 2009 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

If the guy can actually play hockey, then this is all moot naturally. I’ll believe it when I see it, however.

by Kent Wilson on Jul 12, 2009 2:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Goons

 When you don’t have one like Montreal two seasons ago you will realize their value. Ottawa’s Chris Neil was invisible when George Laracque dressed last year and was a thorn in our butt two years ago. Also two years ago when the opponents started something the boys did nothing but stand around and that became contagious.

by nightmare_49 on Jul 12, 2009 3:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Perhaps. But I personally watched Eric Godard be totally ineffective a couple of seasons ago, despite being one of the undisputed heavy weights in the league. Guys like Ott and Burrows ran amok without repercussions. He threw down with Boogaard every so often, even beating him, but that didn’t stop the Sasquatch from running around trying to hit people every time the he played the Flames (because that’s Boogaard’s job. If he doesn’t do it, he doesn’t play).

Goons, I think, are the living version of Tiger Repellent.

by Kent Wilson on Jul 12, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good call. For more proof just look at the Oilers after the departure of George. The next season brought injury after injury. Boogaard took out three himself (two in one game). Teams need a scrapper for intimidation. Plus, a fighter can pump the team up and it’s entertaining for the fans.

by canadam on Jul 14, 2009 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

deal is 1 year 547.000

by shep_ on Jul 13, 2009 10:08 AM PDT reply actions  

Not overly worried about it, but kind of pointless as a few others have pointed out.

-Colin

by Colin S on Jul 13, 2009 1:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Would be interesting to see if Man Games Lost is affected by having one of the better heavyweights on the roster.

by bennie on Jul 13, 2009 2:52 PM PDT reply actions  

True, although Im guessing travel and luck has more of an effect.

by Kent Wilson on Jul 13, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah maybe. Small sampling but didn’t the Flames go from one extreme to the other in back to back years for man games lost? Just curious what happened with the Penguins the year before EG compared to last season. Can’t seem to find man games lost stats anywhere.

by bennie on Jul 13, 2009 6:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Flames had the 2nd toughest road schedule in the league last year. Prior to the season starting, I predicted based on that that the team would experience a lot of injuries.

The only injury I can think of that occurred under the auspices of “goonery” last season was the Cam Janssen hit on Brandon Prust. The question is: does Janssen not make that hit if McGrattan isn’t in the line-up? Hard to say, but I’m guessing he would – because that’s how Janssen stays in the NHL.

by Kent Wilson on Jul 14, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

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