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UFA Options - Mikael Samuelsson


GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG GTG SOG PCT
2008 - Mikael Samuelsson 81 19 21 40 0 50 7 0 1 0 257 7.4

 

Advanced ES Stats - QUAL COMP +0.1, QUAL TEAM -0.07, +18.9 corsi, 1.20 ESP/60

PDO - (92.1 SV%, 6.1 SH%) 98.2

Random fact - Samuelsson was part of the package the Penguins used to get the first overall draft pick (MA Fleury) from Florida in 2003.

Background -

Samuelsson was a 5th round pick by the Sharks over a decade ago. He scored 32 goals and 78 points in his first season in the AHL; impressive output no doubt aided by the fact that he was 24 year old who had already spent 4 seasons in the SEL. He didn't fare so well in the big leagues, however, bouncing from the Sharks, Rangers, Penguins and Florida before the lock-out, never really making a dent. His career high in goals before becoming a Red Wing was 10.

He fled back to Europe during the work stoppage before being signed as a free agent by Detroit. Since then, he's been a fairly consistent 20 goal - 40 point player for the Red Wings, often seeing limited ice at even strength as well as second unit power play type minutes.

Strengths -

Evaluating Red Wings players based on advanced stats is tricky, because just about everyone on the club puts up good numbers due to the team's overall strength. And Mikael is no exception: all of his underlying numbers are fairly excellent, aside from that very pedestrian ES efficiency. Some of that may have to do with ability and some of it with the 6.1 SH% the team put up with him on the ice this year (team average was 8%). His corsi was fairly healthy, ranking 6th on the team behind Datsyuk, Hossa, Franzen, Zetterberg and Holmstrom and it doesn't look like he played with the big boys too often this season given that nominal quality of teammates rating.

Qualitatively, Samuelsson is a big body with a booming shot. He can play both the sideboards and the point on the power play, where he put up 5.02 PPP/60 this year. That rate of production would have put him 2nd on the Flames behind Cammalleri, but it actually ranked 9th (!!) on Detroit.

Weaknesses -

A number of things about Samuelsson ring alarm bells for me. First, he was a marginal player until he arrived in Detroit, which implies he's being propped up by a superior system. Second, he's never scored more than 45 points in the NHL and he's set to turn 33 this coming December. Thirdly, half of his 40 points this season were scored on the NHL's best power play.

Babcock limited Samuelsson to about 12 minutes of ES ice time per night during the regular season and was sure to keep him on the bench when the Wings were short-handed (1:04 SH ice total). Last night, Samuelsson played just 10 minutes against the Blackhawks - less than AHLer Darren Helm. Unless Samuelsson was hurt, it makes me wonder why Babcock would hide a veteran, especially during a blow-out...

Verdict -

Samuelsson is a decent but aging winger who has never really scored at a healthy rate in the NHL. His production seems to be PP reliant and could fall precipitously if he no longer shares the ice with Lidstrom, Rafalski, Franzen, Hossa, Zetterberg, etc.  His age also suggests his peak years are behind him. His advanced stats are healthy - but whose aren't on Detroit.

At his current price (1.3M) on a short term deal, Samuelsson might be a value signing. Beyond that, he starts to look like a high risk/low reward type acquisition to me. He should be available this summer, especially since the Red Wings have 51M tied up next season and decisions to make on Hossa (UFA), Hudler (RFA), Leino (RFA) and a back-up goalie.

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Do you know where to find defensive/offensive zone faceoff +/- data? The Oilogosphere is always throwing that around, and I don’t know where to find it. I have a feeling that Samuelsson might have been getting a lot of O-zone draws this season.

by R O on May 25, 2009 9:02 AM PDT reply actions  

It’s a function of of the timeonice app, albeit one Im not terribly familiar with. I’ll try to look up his face-offs and zone shift today…

by Kent Wilson on May 25, 2009 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Here’s the Red Wings zone shift. Samuelsson’s number is good (-23) if unspectacular.

by Kent Wilson on May 25, 2009 9:29 AM PDT reply actions  

I’m playing around with that app now. I tried “teamfaceoffs” instead of “teamxfaceoffs” and I think I got the number I was looking for (how often they were tagged by the coach to take faceoffs). So Samuelsson is -4 in terms of starting his shifts, but -104 in terms of ending them. That’s not bad (even if it is another team effect too).

Note: I got -104 instead of -23 for his zone shift, but I did extend the last game number from 21174 to 21230.

by R O on May 25, 2009 9:56 AM PDT reply actions  

The thing to look at is shooting%. Normally when you see that a forward only scored on 7.4% of his shots, you figure he had bad luck. Samuelsson, however, has a career mark of 7.3. He puts shots on net at an elite rate, but just can’t shoot for crap. He gets powerplay time, not because he has the ability for it, but because Babcock’s "cowbell" is having a right-shooting player on the right point. While his pp scoring rate looks pretty good, it becomes much less impressive if his 2.79 secondary assists /60 is factored out, which is unsustainable, even for someone playing on the Red Wings.

The teammates he played most with this season were, in order, Franzen, Zetterburg, Rafalski, Kronvall, and Lidstrom, so he actually did play with the "big boys" a good deal. Insofar as he was playing next to Zetterburg, he was also playing frequently against the big boys, so keep that in mind.

While he doesn’t get pk time in Detroit, I see no reason couldn’t. He is a quality defensive player who reads plays well and is typically in proper position. He is bad at making defensive plays while skating backwards, which is one reason not to play him at the point on the pp, but doesn’t come into play very often at even-strength. He is also a good forechecker, and does his part to keep the puck in the safe part of the ice, although he has an issue with occasionally trying to carry the puck across the offensive blue-line when he would be better served either passing and retreating or dumping it in.

In summation, he is an effective third-line winger who will outplay his counterpart on the other team most nights, who can also pass as “third wheel” on a scoring line. I’ll let you figure out what that would be worth to the Flames.

by BrianW on May 25, 2009 11:43 AM PDT reply actions  

Thanks for the additional info.

I still wouldn’t want Samuelsson for too much or too long, but there are probably worse options out there. Ideally, I’d like to see a guy with a higher offensive ceiling given the Flames needs, although that may not be in the cards given Calgary’s budget restrictions.

by Kent Wilson on May 25, 2009 11:57 AM PDT reply actions  

he is an effective third-line winger who will outplay his counterpart on the other team most nights

That describes Rene Bourque, Curtis Glencross, and David Moss pretty much, no?

Nice enough player, but unless he’s cheap (like a million three again), I don’t see the point. The odds are some fool GM overpays for a guy based on Red Wing-inflated numbers. Let them.

by Robert Cleave on May 25, 2009 1:06 PM PDT reply actions  

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