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Flames/Stars Postgame

As mentioned, I only listened to (part) of the game last night, so my comments are based almost wholly on what I can gather from the stats...

First, I'm glad the team won. I'm glad they held the Stars to just a goal against and I'm glad Kipper managed another decent game.

Overall, though...color me unimpressed. Keenan might be pleased, but, considering the quality of the opponent, a lot of the results from last night are not good enough in my opinion. Consider:

- Flames didn't score a PP goal for the 5th straight game. Yeah.

- Calgary's two "top" lines got their asses handed to them at ES in terms of possession. Cumuatively they were -31 on the night. It's one thing to do that against Detroit...but the Dallas Stars lacking Richards, Morrow, Modano, Robidas and Zubov? Shouldn't happen. Even on the road. 

On that note, all indications are Keenan's Super Line isn't working. Moreso, Jokinen is turning into a total bust centering Iginla. He now has 1 assist and is -2 in the last 5 games. He's also managed just 11 shots on net over that time as well. Considering his linemates, career shot average and amount of ice time (especially on the PP), those are some pretty telling results.

(As an aside, Lombardi has a 5 game point streak in PHX centering Upshall and Prucha. He now has as many points as Jokinen since the trade. And a better +/- figure, playing on a worse team with far inferior linemates).

- Flames were outshot 10-1 in the final period. I know teams tend to play to the score when ahead and often fall into a defensive shell - but I don't have to like it. One shot in a period in a game you have lots of reasons to win versus a theoretically inferior opponent is not acceptable.

- Back to the PP. It's awful. It's not just that the results aren't there - the team isn't doing things that lead to results. They managed two shots on net with 2 PP chances last night. Dallas managed 6 in 3 PP's in contrast (again, lacking half of their PP regulars). Something has to change, because this isn't anything new. After the ugly 7 game roadtrip, I mentioned the Flames were losing the special teams battles more often than not (by results and shot volume). Not much has changed since then.

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I’m not too sure why Sutter felt the need to find someone to center Iginla this season. The problem hasn’t been with our centers, it’s been with Iginla.

Of course, try to engage a casual fan in this debate and they just turn it around on you with Jokinen’s point history, and his 8 goals for us, while conveniently ignoring or dismissing his underlying numbers. Frustrating.

On the PP: I didn’t watch the game either so I don’t remember if Moss was on it. Or Glencross for that matter. I have noticed that whenever Moss is on the PP in front of the net, the Flames drop that awful 1- or 2-man behind the net setup and just get everyone in front and start shooting. I don’t know why Keenan doesn’t roll with this more often.

by R O on Apr 3, 2009 7:56 AM PDT reply actions  

Glencross and Moss combined for a whole 16 seconds of PP time last night. Langkow had 1:39. Bertuzzi? 3:02.

by Kent Wilson on Apr 3, 2009 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

BOYD SEND DOWN!!!!!!!

Negrin and Pelech up? Anyone see this on Insider?

by maimster on Apr 3, 2009 9:33 AM PDT reply actions  

See the fanshot above.

by Kent Wilson on Apr 3, 2009 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

The first line wasn’t that bad last night. They were matched up against the Ribeiro-Ott-Lehtinen line (I think those were the three anyway). I would guess that the minus on the corsi was the result of the third where they didn’t really create anything, because in the first two periods they had the better chances. The second line was just brutal though. Langkow and Lundmark were both complete non-factors throughout and you can definitely see that in the numbers. They saw some Modano and some of the Brunnstrom-Neal line. At least that’s my recollection, and those were the two best lines for Dallas.

I was surprised at the 10-1 shot mark because at no point in watching did I feel like the Stars were particularly dangerous in the third. They were carrying the play but not really managing to do much. All in all though not a particularly dominating performance, although if the second line shows up (i.e. if Langkow plays well) we probably look a lot better.

by chw on Apr 3, 2009 9:41 AM PDT reply actions  

Ahh, thanks for the insight.

Yeah, the 2nd line definitely looks like the biggest anchor by the numbers.

by Kent Wilson on Apr 3, 2009 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

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