Flames Versus Thrashers Gamethread
by Kent Wilson on Dec 9, 2009 6:01 PM PST
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The last time these two teams faced, the Thrashers handed the Flames one of their most embarrassing losses of the season. Calgary trundled into Atlanta the overwhelming favorites and ended up getting their asses handed to them - the Thrash won 5-2 and the Flames and on top of looking like a bunch of hung over frat kids, the Flames ended up taking a boatload of penalties en route to their humbling.
That stuff happens over the course of an 82 game schedule, so there's no real reason to expect it again (ATL isn't CHI afterall). That said, the Thrashers have improved over last season thanks to more consistent goaltending and some notable contributions from cheaper players (Peverley, Afinogenov).
Stuff to watch for:
- Does Dawes get another spin on the top line? At what point does Sutter try out Brian McGrattan?
- Kovalchuk has been deadly on the PP for years. The Flames have gotten away with a mediocre PK recently thanks to Kipepr standing on his head, but I'd rather they didn't test it too many times tonight.
- Rich Peverley was claimed by ATL off of waivers from NSH last year. Since becoming a Thrasher, Peverley has 23 goals and 61 points in 66 games. That's like finding a Rolex in the garbage. And while his offensive blossoming for the Thrash seems unprecedented, he was, in fact a capable scorer at the AHL level.
Here we go folks...
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Nice cheapshot by Armstrong that the refs ignored.
by Resolute on Dec 9, 2009 6:58 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Oh look! Its Kerry Fraser’s myopic officiating!
by Resolute on Dec 9, 2009 7:00 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I think cause he hibernates in the neutral zone waiting on someone else to play defence.
by Resolute on Dec 9, 2009 7:07 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Fucking Fraser. How about you call them too you drunken jackass.
by Resolute on Dec 9, 2009 7:12 PM PST via mobile reply actions
That’s not necessarily a selling feature, I think there’s only been one game where we outchanced them and won.. and even then it was pretty even
They had three short bursts, but we otherwise dominated possession.
by Resolute on Dec 9, 2009 7:30 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
One thing Phanuef has struggled with this season is getting shots through from the point. Seems to frequently shoot it into the block in front of him.
Geezus Dawes needs to be demoted and we need someone else to wing that line if we insist on playing them together
The last 2 Flames penalties were penalties. It’s just that everything going the other way has been ignored.
Aside from “closing hand on the puck” apparently.
Turned his back. That wasn’t a penalty at all.
by Resolute on Dec 9, 2009 7:43 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Pretty damned obvious Fraser has money on Atlanta.
by Resolute on Dec 9, 2009 7:42 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Good god is the officiating ever embarrassing. The refs are going to lose control of this game if they don’t start calling these obvious penalties.
by Resolute on Dec 9, 2009 7:57 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Slashed at the glove of the goalie. No way Fraser doesn’t call that.
by Resolute on Dec 9, 2009 8:19 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
He’s not quite as comely as Ms. Beals, Kent. Even the current L-Word version.
by Robert Cleave on Dec 9, 2009 8:10 PM PST up reply actions
Officiating: brutal.
Anyone else notice that the Flames have started to play lower and lower in their own zone? It’s like two or three games in a row now. It’s highly encouraging, retrieval in the slot has been nearly perfect this game. It’s not like Atlanta’s a world beater (gaming aside: Flames were a pre-game favorite at -170, or 55-45 after removing home-ice advantage) but they did this against LA and SJ too and those teams have outstanding forward corps.
The Flames may well earn that distinction if this keeps up.
Flames +13, EV shots 18-14 CGY
That was as good a second period as they’ve played since, I don’t know, all year?
Atlanta needs to stop cherry picking if they hope to come back. Flames are having a relatively easy night because of their predictability.
by Resolute on Dec 9, 2009 8:21 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Not so easy when your opponent can defend himself, eh Armstrong?
by Resolute on Dec 9, 2009 8:27 PM PST via mobile reply actions
He was the far ref that time, at least.
by Resolute on Dec 9, 2009 8:35 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
The nhl won’t be happy until kipper is injured.
by Resolute on Dec 9, 2009 8:34 PM PST via mobile reply actions
So I traded Brian Campbell and Sean Avery for The Joker in other fantasy league which is not the Bonfire. What do you guys think?
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PIMS are like .2 a minute
Only thing that really bothered me was giving up Avery’s PIMs but Campbell is just sucking wind on a daily basis.
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Interesting move by Jokinen to get the breakaway. I am postiive that doesn’t work in a good 70 of 100 parallel universes. Thank goodness that was on the PP; if he tried that shit at even strength with, say, Kovalchuk on the backcheck then I would probably lose it.
Third line should be the number one PP unit.
by Resolute on Dec 9, 2009 8:56 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
so much for a 2-1 score again...
what if Rene missed that like open net like he did earlier in the game…
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Quick question before everyone leaves…
If you could trade Dion Phaneuf for Vincent Lecavalier, would you?
Vinny is still a solid fantasy play. Do it!
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Ooooo in real life. Wouldn’t Vinny’s contract be an albatross on the cap?
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Ugly is a kind way to describe it, because you’re stuck with that fucker for ten years. Ten.
The only way you could do it is to find a D man for about 4 million that was better/equal to what ever you got from Dion, and then hope the cap starts going up in a couple of years. It just seems like a lot of dough for a guy who’s really struggling. Maybe he’d be better away from that cluster in Tampa, but it’s a risk.
by Robert Cleave on Dec 9, 2009 9:14 PM PST up reply actions
I would do it if we didn’t live in a word were contracts existed. Since we do…I wouldn’t. Sorry, but Dion’s contract is enough of an anchor. Lecavalier….no dice.
Not a chance. I don’t have a business degree but that’s a lot of millions attached to a person playing a contact sport and not much leverage under the cap system. Even without looking at the hockey aspect, I wouldn’t hand out these deals that go past 5-6 years. Not even premier difference makers like Ovechkin or Crosby. The risk is simply too high and the profit margin doesn’t allow for fucking around with that kind of money imo.
And if we bring the hockey stuff into it, it gets even worse. Lecavalier hasn’t been a difference maker in this league in years. This team needs a guy that can move the puck north against the best, a Bergeron or Frolov (or if I’m dreaming, Zetterberg) type.
by R O on Dec 9, 2009 9:57 PM PST up reply actions
Flames +14, +1 in the third.
EV shots 25-21 CGY, 7-7 in the third.
Not bad when the other team is doing the chasing, I’d say.
Chances are up. Almost everyone in the black aside from Gio and Bouwmeester. Good stuff. Imagine if the PP could do something.
Two chances in 6+ minutes on the PP. Yuck.
by Robert Cleave on Dec 9, 2009 9:21 PM PST up reply actions
Ilya Kovalchuk is a below average hockey player
Elite scorer, but he is simply deficient in every other aspect of the game. I feel bad for the Thrashers, because they have some talent, but it is never going to go anywhere with him as their leader.
Yeah, Kovalchuk is good in a narrow range, but he’s not truly elite. A guy like Datsyuk is vastly superior.
Catch-22 for Atlanta though. If they were smart, they would trade his overinflated value for some good building blocks, but they pretty much have to sign him for the sake of that market.
Yeah, they pretty much have to sign him long-term. Kind of hard to turn Atlanta into a decent hockey market if you’re in perpetual rebuild mode because the stars you develop bolt at their first opportunity.
Disappointed that Kane was a scratch, was looking forward to seeing him play (not to mention that I think he’s going to end up the true face of that franchise if he lives up to his potential).
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