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Flames @ Kings Post-Game - Karma's a Bitch

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As sometimes happens, the Flames were the better team last night in just about all facets of the game, but ended up on the losing end of the score. Tough to be mad about it though - Calgary has been the beneficiary of similar fortunes recently so we'll just write this one off as the universe trying to balance itself out.

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Calgary won the possession battle, the scoring chance count and the shot count, but a couple of posts and some decent saves by Jonathan Quick kept the Kings out in front. That said, it was hardly a perfect contest from the guys in white and red: Adam Pardy moved up in the absence of Robyn Regehr and got his head beat in. In particular, he was frequently victimized off the rush, including Scott Parse's opening tally. Pardy typically ends up on the positive side of things in terms of chances and possession when he's restricted to the third pairing, but last night he was well under water by both metrics (-11, -5). He also took a penalty to boot. Sorry Adam...you're clearly not ready for that kind of gig.

In addition, the Flames newly formed top line of Iginla, Jokinen and Dawes struggled for the second straight game. Since being formed, the trio is a combined -26 in terms of scoring chance differential, which is a rate reminiscent of the bad ol' October days where Iginla and Jokinen were getting beat up by the opposition nightly. To be fair, they faced some pretty capable bad guys the last two games (Thornton et al, Kopitar et al), but the point of going PvP is to at least try to come out even at the end of the game most nights. If not, then you just have $12M+ worth of offensive forwards chasing the puck around their own zone for an evening.

Which brings me to the ever rotating cast of left wingers for that unit - I've resigned myself to the fact that the Flames organization has collectively decided that Iginla and Jokinen have to play together (apologies to Mike Keenan, whom I blamed this exclusively on last season), but the fact of the matter is, outside of periods where Iginla is shooting lights out, that combination is going to need some help to get the job done; especially if Brent is going to send them out against the Thorntons and Kopitars of the world. The natural choice is Rene Bourque, who is doubtlessly the best LW on the Flames roster. Bourque's audition on the first line was rather inauspicious (loss to PHX), although that unit did manage to outchance their counter-parts on the evening - something that hasn't occured since Bourque was moved to Langkow's line and Dawes was elevated. Granted, the level of competition between the PHX game and the following two contests isn't congruous, but I think it's been shown pretty conclusively that Bourque is a strong ES forward who can play against anyone and move the puck in the right direction.

As such, I find the decision making about this situation curious: in Bourque's absence, the Dawes-Langkow-Moss combination held their own. Bourque returns, makes a brief appearance on the first unit and then is "demoted" in favor of an obviously inferior option (no disrepect to Dawes, whom I like - he's just clearly in over his head). Any talk of "balancing the top 6" here is untenable: not only was the Langkow/Dawes/Moss trio operating at an acceptable clip previously, but the Flames first line sees the toughest match-ups. Iginla and Jokinen should therefore play with the best LW option available - otherwise you're just throwing them in the deep end of the pool and tossing them an anchor. And it's not like Olli Jokinen is the best swimmer anyways.

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Couldn’t agree more – Dawes looks awful on the top line (or, at least, the line looks awful with Dawes on it). And Bourque hasn’t made the 2nd line look any better than it did in his absence with Dawes there. And on top of that, it’s not like Sutter is reconnecting the line which drove the positive results in October because Moss is there now instead of Dawes. This is just a really curious move, like he has some overriiding reason for keeping Olli-Iggy and Lanks-Bork together.

by maimster on Dec 8, 2009 10:29 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Totally agree. I think long ago, Brent, a lover of ‘the pairs’ has decided that it’s going to be Olli and Jarome, Rene and Daymond, and it seems Curtis and Craig. Now that Olli is going better, I’m not totally opposed to that pairing, and Curtis and Craig have always been a dream duo in my mind. BUT, I think Daymond and Nigel are really meant for one another. Therefore, the third-wheels become Moss, Boyd, RBQ and you can rotate those guys as needed.

Anyway, that was weird…just like the idea of STICKING TO PAIRS no matter what the consequences.

OK, so Kipper wasn’t superman last night, but shit, that’s one of those games where you make one mistake on ‘d’, the goal goes in and you don’t allow any other shots…so the stats look not so great. Whatever, he still has only allowed 10 goals in his last 8 games since the boys got scalped by those damn Blackhawks.

Last game: .917% ev sv%, Highlight reel: 3-4

Game stats Kipper: 16-7-3 – .926% (.941% ev)
.920 sv% +: 16 of 25
sv% >/= opp. sv%: 19 of 25
<27 s/a: 6 of 25
>30 s/a: 10 of 25
>33 s/a: 8 of 25

Highlight reel: 96 – 71

Back home is nice. Is it wrong to be disappointed with a road trip where we went 4-2 because it looked like we could have gone 6-0? Dammit. I mean hell, we scored 16 and allowed 8 goals in 6 games. 3 in 1 by Mackle, and 5 in 5 by Kipper and still lost two…WTF.

by LawrenceS on Dec 8, 2009 10:44 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I’m not fully convinced Jokinen is getting better – ie; good enough to handle the assignment of PvP. He and Jarome had a nice run in October and I think a lot of that was Iginla playing well and scoring on every 3rd shot he faced. The scoring chances improved marginally for a time, but they seem to be back in toilet again. If Jokinen can continue the trend we saw in October indefinitely and absent a lights-out Jarome, I’ll be more encouraged.

You’re right though, it looks like Sutter is set on pairs. It just doesn’t make sense to me to combine your $12M PvP pair of forwards with sub-$1M wingers and expect a consistently good outcome.

by Kent Wilson on Dec 8, 2009 10:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I’ll assume you mean November, because Olli was decent in November and I’ve chosen to completely forget about the OlliIggyOctober (try to say that fast a number of times)

by maimster on Dec 8, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

haha, right. Not sure what I was thinking there.

by Kent Wilson on Dec 8, 2009 12:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My feeling (late to the comment game here) is that Jokinen is starting to improve his play in some ways that aren’t entirely reflected in the score sheet. I’ve watched a number of games where I was slapping my head at the bone headedness or laziness of a number of players, but rarely (recently) has Jokinen been the one (sometimes he is on the ice with one, like last game)

I’ll give him into January to start seeing some movement on the score sheet before I am willing to concede the trend was all in my imagination.

by d_p_h on Dec 8, 2009 5:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I’d be interested in seeing some sort of line-up stabilty anaylsis that looks at the fluidity of the line-up after a regulation loss opposed to a point gaining effort. I almost get the impression that he’s (B. Sutter) sticking with things that work (i.e. result in points) until they don’t (i.e. result is a 0). Bourque comes back on the top line team loses, switched to 2nd team wins, team line-up is unchanged.

The injuries to Moss & Bourque would throw that too much for a loop to adaquately measure I would imagine.

by Parallex on Dec 8, 2009 12:30 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

More offence

There can be little doubt that the Flames are owed some pay back from October but what the Phoenix and LA games indicate to me is just how much the flames need another bona fide “pure” offensive sort.Dare I say a guy like Huselius, who when you just need that last goal, and you are getting pressure, just has a special creative flair to make a play.

by CalTach on Dec 8, 2009 8:56 PM PST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

I think where the Flames miss a Huselius-like presence is the PP. As it is now, there’s lots of shooters, some grinders and board play guys, but no one who can back off the defense with their puck handling or distributions skills. As such, you get some cycling, some static passing around the perimeter and some shoot and pray.

by Kent Wilson on Dec 8, 2009 10:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It’s really noticable when they start to set up, and there’s not really anyone I trust with the puck. Joker always looks like he’s handling a bomb, Iggy is OK but chops the ice up a bit, and even the skill guys (let’s say Dawes, for example) don’t really look comfortable. That lends itself to pressure-type PK teams causing Flames to make bad decisions and eventually either a clearance or a Phaneuf point shot (actually, that happens nearly every time they set up no matter the situation!)

by maimster on Dec 9, 2009 7:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yup, whole lotta shooters and no true playmakers. It’s a situation that’s unlikely to change anytime soon barring a trade as there are none of note on the UFA market this year nor any such prospects that appear like they’ll be ready for the NHL any time soon.

I’m not sure how much it would help on the powerplay, blast & muck for garbage has been the norm (Hence the overuse of the Phaneaf slapper from the point… which I would mind so much if the guy could directed towards the net more often then not) and if that’s the game plan I’m not sure how much a playmaker type would help.

by Parallex on Dec 9, 2009 8:04 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Game plans typically are modeled after the personnel. You’re right thought, not a lot of passer-types are available right now.

by Kent Wilson on Dec 9, 2009 8:09 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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