Flames versus Rangers Gamethread
by Kent Wilson on Nov 7, 2009 6:00 PM PST
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New York Rangers at Calgary Flames, Nov 7, 2009 7:00 PM PST
It's been a long time since Avery was in Calgary. The last time, he was a Dallas Star and he greeted the press with a grin and stupid comment which ultimately culminated in a suspension, a demotion and, eventaully, a rocky road back to the NHL via New York. Some may expect some fireworks between Avery and Phaneuf, given Dion is still dating the object of controversy, but I wouldn't bet on it. Partially because it's a kinder, gentler Sean Avery these days, partially because worse is no doubt said on the ice anyways, and partially because I'm guessing both guys just want to put the whole stupid thing behind them.
Things to actually watch for tonight:
- Is Jarome stirring from his slumber? Or is the fact he still wallows in the red in terms of possession still a concern? The points are nice, but personally I'd be happier if Jarome spent more time in the offensive zone.
- Michael Del Zotto is getting a lot of consideration as a Calder favorite. Nice looking player for sure, but it's unlikely to last. He's underwater at ES, despite a really favorable zonestart (63% offensive zone) and he's personally riding a SH% of 26.7 which is shy high for a forward, let alone a blueliner.
- NYR has one real line to worry about at ES - the one with Gaborik on it. I assume Langkow's unit will get the unpleasant task of trying to shut down the ex-Wild sniper. Here's hoping the other trios can make hay against their counter-parts. In particular, I'm looking for Boyd/Glencross/Moss to start doing something useful. It's a good combination in theory, but all those guys have been fairly silent recently. There's also Jokinen/Iginla, of course, but my hopes of that pairing doing anything at 5on5 have sailed.
- No word if McGrattan draws in again tonight. Brashear is out, so it makes even less sense than it usually would to dress the enforcer, especially over a more useful player in Prust (who is reportedly healthy). McGrattan has been below the 2 minute mark his last couple of games and the 4th line got murdered in Dallas, even with Iginla being double-shifted in McGrattan's place all night. Put the goon in the pressbox, Sutter.
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Looks likes myleafs is offline, atdhe is up though.
-Colin
by Colin S on Nov 7, 2009 7:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Rider fans are such an embarrassment. A bunch of them interrupted the moment of silence for our fallen soldiers to cheer the final in the football game. Typical of those clowns though.
by Resolute on Nov 7, 2009 7:21 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
when Drury went down, was it me or were they already trying to start shit with Avery?
Spreading that Calgary Flames, Montreal Expos, The U, and Orlando Magic love.
by KingJafi on Nov 7, 2009 7:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Bah, I just saw McGrattan. Why Sutter why?
by Parallex on Nov 7, 2009 7:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Was the color commentator on MSG seriously asking why Avery was being booed?
-Colin
by Colin S on Nov 7, 2009 7:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Really? Beyond the whole backstory thats unique to the flames… he’s Sean Avery. Nobody likes Sean Avery.
by Parallex on Nov 7, 2009 7:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
he had a point about the seconds though…i hate to say it
Spreading that Calgary Flames, Montreal Expos, The U, and Orlando Magic love.
by KingJafi on Nov 7, 2009 7:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And the 20th stupid D zone turnover ends up in our net.
by Resolute on Nov 7, 2009 7:47 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
That Gaborik line vs. Jokinen/Iggy matchup isn’t going to be very good if Sutter can’t get away from it.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 7, 2009 7:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
That was a quick period. Not alot of whistles.
by Parallex on Nov 7, 2009 7:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Brian McGrattan was on the ice for 1:34. New York had 4 SOG. They had 5 the other 18:26. Why bother, indeed.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 7, 2009 7:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Didn’t see the first, but even the radio guys weren’t impressed with the period. Said the Rangers spent most of the time with he puck. Accurate?
by Kent Wilson on Nov 7, 2009 8:00 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
i’d agree with that, flames didn’t seem to drive any sustained pressure, and did spend a fair amount of trying trying to move the puck out their own zone
by Jeshko on Nov 7, 2009 8:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And I’d have to go to the PbP sheet, but it looked by eye that when it was Langkow’s line vs. Gaborik’s, things were a lot calmer than when 12 and 21 were out there, which maybe isn’t a surprise.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 7, 2009 8:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Given how awful Valiquette has looked, we should be doing a lot better. Too many turnovers and cute plays in our zone.
by Resolute on Nov 7, 2009 8:09 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Sorta, They had the puck more but they didn’t have much jam goin’ on either. Offensively a bit of a snore period I thought.
by Parallex on Nov 7, 2009 8:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The guys on MSG are really harping away on the Glencross hit on Drury … even Keenan said “suspension” back in the studio between periods. Okay, we get it.
by Calgarian in SJ on Nov 7, 2009 8:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Olli Jokinen, please leave. That give away killed the end of the 5 v 3. Yuck.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 7, 2009 8:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Bah, someone teach these people how to shoot a puck.
by Parallex on Nov 7, 2009 8:21 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Jokinen isn’t even capable on the PP right now. It’s almost unbelievable at this point.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 7, 2009 8:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Don’t goat Jokinen everyone sucked on that… Jokenin just sucked most.
by Parallex on Nov 7, 2009 8:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I seriously think the Flames would be a better team if Jokinen were up in the press box. Enough is enough.
by Calgarian in SJ on Nov 7, 2009 8:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
What the foauriafjasl;dfij
So how much did Jokinen get paid tonight to fan on that shot and then give that puck away behind the net on the 5 on 3. \i know this is a bit late but I have the game on a bit of pvr delay. I just about threw my remote through the tv. Add Iginla’s fan and Phaneuf missing Iginla on the back door. ACK!!
by CalTach on Nov 7, 2009 8:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Holy, I’ve never seen Conroy that pissed.
by Parallex on Nov 7, 2009 8:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
That was better. Simple play=goal. Joker did the right thing, too. Straight to the net.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 7, 2009 8:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Joker is a big guy, i thought that’s what he suppose to do in PP, throw a big body in front…
by Outz on Nov 7, 2009 8:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That might have been the worst shift of Regehr’s career.
by Resolute on Nov 7, 2009 8:43 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Yup. He completely hung Phaneuf out to dry.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 7, 2009 8:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Corsi: even after two.
EV shots 7-3 for NY, 16-12 after two. Calgary had 3 shots in about 12 minutes of EV time.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 7, 2009 8:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
If Langkow indeed has the tough match-ups, that line is knocking it out of the park tonight. Iginla et al…not so much.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 7, 2009 8:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I had a quick scan of the PbP sheet. It looks like 17-22-15 are out about half the time at EV vs. the 10 line. The penalty Moss took was against that line. The Dubinsky- Higgins line has been out against a mix of Iggy’s line and the third lline
by Robert Cleave on Nov 7, 2009 9:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Regehr may have come back
but it looked like the foot was still bugging him. Although Phaneuf should have been able to handle that pass across.
by CalTach on Nov 7, 2009 8:54 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
That pass by Dawes to Iginla on the PP was sublime.
Aside from a terrible shift by Regehr, I thought the team looked decent in that period.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 7, 2009 8:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Kipper is playing well
The one goal may have been a bit suspect, but he has made some outstanding saves with NY in close.
by CalTach on Nov 7, 2009 9:05 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yeesh, that two really marginal calls on Moss.
by Parallex on Nov 7, 2009 9:08 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Nah. Second was blatant. No idea ho Avery gets away with that hold though.
by Resolute on Nov 7, 2009 9:13 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Jokinen: shitty and unlucky, all at once.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 7, 2009 9:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
brutal play by pardy, bailed out by moss’s backcheck
by Jeshko on Nov 7, 2009 9:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
That should close it. That line’s pretty good.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 7, 2009 9:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Bourquetastic
Dawesome and Langkowsome. Yes, I am a 12 year old girl.
by CalTach on Nov 7, 2009 9:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Plus some kudos to the D
tonight for cleaning up the gargage in front. Althoughthere were all kinds of pucks that were hanging around in front, it really felt like the D were in the right spot to clean up. Maybe this sutter system is falling into place.
Also after this corner has ragged on Phaneuf some this season, I think there has to be some recognition for him being very steady tonight, even bailing reggie out a couple of times.
by CalTach on Nov 7, 2009 9:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Great night by the Langkow line, and Dawes in particular. Team seemed to be skating pretty well on the whole. Glencross was smashing people all over the ice.
Then there’s Jokinen. Sheesh. Iginla looks more like himself, but Olli is still fluffing plays all over the ice. There he was with a minute left giving the pcuk away in his own zone.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 7, 2009 9:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
He’s got you so flustered you can’t spell puck, Kent ;-)
But yeah. that line was very good.. The shots look lousy, but they didn’t really give up very much the last five minutes.
Corsi was dead even, and since NY was chasing the game, that’s OK.
EV shots 26-17 NY, 10-5 in the third.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 7, 2009 9:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I almost felt sorry for Olli tonight he looked out of place but he did work is ass off tonight so that makes up for it and probably for the first time all year Phaneuf made two bad turnovers that led to scoring chances but all in all beautiful game from everyone except Brian McGrattan’s 1:34 of ice time and Donald Brasher never even played.
Still getting out shot but can’t complain at all.
Where the Lead is never safe, Ahead or Behind.
by CofRed on Nov 7, 2009 9:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I just can’t fathom why McGrattan is dressing right now. I’d love to be in a press scrum and lob that question at Brent.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 7, 2009 9:59 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
My wild guess is that Prust is sick but the team wants the whole H1N1 bruhaha to go away so they’re just not mentioning it and calling him a healthy scratch. Really without Brashear in the line-up there simply isn’t any other reason to play McGrattan over Prust.
by Parallex on Nov 8, 2009 9:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Could be, but Prust was asked point blank recently if he was hurt or sick and he said no.
The only thing I can think of is Sutter will stick with McGrattan until the Flames lose again.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 8, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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