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November 24 News and Notes


Another week is in the can, as the Flames and the NHL pass the quarter pole. On this installment of M and G's look around the league, the Habs and Wild swap disappointments, a Pred makes a case for Olympic duty, and Dion Phaneuf's little brother runs a Canadian hockey heroine.

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Flames:

Another frustrating night in Anaheim for Calgary, as a 43 shot effort only netted the Flames two goals and one point. Three points from the two games in California is still a perfectly fine ratio. The team has a six game tour coming up starting Friday in Detroit, and if they end up with nine points, I'd be fine with that.

One thing that seems heartening is the fact that Olli Jokinen has begun to get more involved in the offence. Seven SOG and 15 attempts in the last two games are more in line with what he should be providing. I suspect we'll argue all year about what he should or shouldn't be doing out there, but I'm fairly sure that everyone would agree that his game's strength is shooting the puck. He was better last night, and at some point with efforts of that ilk, he'll start to score. Unless Jarome Iginla keeps shooting 30-odd percent as he has this month, they'll need Joker's offence soon enough.

Kipper 5 v 5: This week - Chicago 2-11, L.A. 2-20, Anaheim 2-18, overall 30-440, .932 SV%. He should have sued for non-support after the Chicago game, although most of the dumbfuckery happened when the Flames were down a man. Those numbers are still solid, and I have absolutely no problem saying it's all to his credit. As I've mentioned before, he had an .899 5 v 5 SV% last year. I'm not sure any worthwhile evidence exists that the Flames are suddenly an airtight defensive crew, so if Kipper has moved up that much, I don't really see many external explanations. He's the MVP of the team through the first quarter.

 

Elsewhere:

Tomorrow's opponent has fallen on some harder times, taking a 4-0 loss in Edmonton Monday night. The Yotes are racked with injuries to the blue, having lost Jovanovski, Michalek and Sauer for extended periods. They've still had a good start to the year, though, and getting an NHL coach has aided matters greatly. Dave Tippett knows what he's doing, certainly in comparison to his predecessor. 

 

Out on the coast, the Canucks lost a tough one to the Hawks Sunday, but they did welcome Daniel Sedin back to the line-up. Meanwhile, Pavol Demitra has been doing his Michael Phelps imitation in an effort to rejoin the Canucks line-up. Swimming, that is, although I suppose Phelps' other activities could be easily emulated in Vancouver if one was so inclined.

The Canucks themselves are dog-paddling along at a game over .500, and the lack of scoring depth is one reason why that team has seemed lackluster thus far. That killer Olympic road trip is looming, and if they aren't well clear of the Flames by late January, Calgary might have an edge.

 

The Wild and Canadiens traded players from the 2005 draft this week, with Guillaume Latendresse leaving Montreal for the Twin Cities, in exchange for former 4th overall pick Benoit Pouliot. Sean Gordon of the Globe and Mail has an interesting take on the deal, while Michael Russo evaluates the deal in a more conventional manner. Change of scenery, I guess, but Latendresse has been a useful player. Pouliot has been a complete bust to this point. FYI, the Flames picked Matt Pelech that year. Moving right along...

 

The Hawks are flying, as we know around these parts all too well. They'll get Hossa back this week, to boot. Bastards. Next year holds some cap problems for the Second City outfit, as Bob McKenzie notes this week. The first time I really remember the whole tagging room issue was when Anaheim traded Andy McDonald to St. Louis to accommodate the return of Scott Niedermayer, but what the Hawks are facing is quite a conundrum. Having too many good young players certainly beats the alternative, though.

 

Nashville has pulled themselves out of the ditch, with a 9-2 streak getting them in a playoff spot. Shea Weber has been very good for a few years running, and his play has him on the cusp of a potential Olympic berth. His Predators dispatched the Red Wings last night, and Bill at A2Y has had enough of Todd Bertuzzi. Welcome to our world, Chief. Iwocpo suggests that Bert's hit on Moore was the act that rendered Sparklepants a shell of the player that terrorized opponents before, but I always wonder if he was headed downhill at just that moment anyway. He only had 17 goals in 69 games, and his shooting percentage went from around 18% to 11% that year. Throw in a bad back, and that was it for Bert as an elite player.

The Wings lost another cog when Niklas Kronwall got the bad end of a knee-on-knee encounter with Le GG. It was a dreadful hit, with even the perpetrator admitting he should get a vacation

 

A knee-on-knee play of sorts also has ex-Flame Shean Donovan on the shelf for a couple of months, courtesy of Matt Cooke. No suspension for the Pens' agitator, although one for general crimes against humanity wouldn't be out of line, would it?

 

The Leafs lost on 4-3 to the Islanders on Monday, despite out-shooting New York 61-21. Dwayne Roloson looks pretty good, doesn't he? Dominik at Lighthouse Hockey has the right idea with that story title, IMO. That said, at least one person appears to have a bit of mercy for the Buds.

Speaking of Islander items, we have a Rick DiPietro sighting. There's been talk about Marty Biron to Buffalo, but I wonder if Columbus is worried about Steve Mason's terrible start this year to the point that they might make a move. Mathieu Garon gave up a five-spot to the Habs tonight, so it's not as if he's bullet-proof either. 

 

The Olympic selection is nearing, and in his latest effort, Elliotte Friedman of the CBC discusses Steven Stamkospotential for a nod. I do have a quibble with this bit, however:

Also, inexperience cost Canada dearly in 2006.

That's just not so. Of the main squad named to the Turin team, only two players, Bertuzzi and Turco, were absent from the 2004 World Cup side. That team had plenty of issues, but since the absence of Sidney Crosby was the main point of contention going in, that take from Elliotte doesn't seem to match my memory of things. Saying a team with Sakic, Iginla, Smyth, Brodeur and Pronger couldn't handle the jitters, well, nope, I'm not buying it. They looked more like a team that struggled to keep up on the big ice, and someone from these parts said as much at the time.

 

Ray Ferraro addresses one of my bugbears in his TSN blog this week. He discusses the actions that Nigel Dawes took in the wake of the hit that sent Rene Bourque to IR. The idea that a clean hit demands retribution is stupid, and yet it's now become an automatic response. Why? I'm not a fan of hits that target the head, but there are normal hits that should be part of the game, and Hjalmarsson's play was well within that spectrum. 

 

Gabe Desjardins has a look at how overtime, and the way the league has structured the OT/SO points, can skew results in the standings. It doesn't favour the good teams, to his way of thinking, and mine. I'd be fine if the league went back to tie games, but that's not on the horizon. 

 

That's all for this week. Keep your head up, Hayley. There's no safe place when a Phaneuf is out there.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I really enjoy this weekly feature, Robert. Thanks a lot.

Glad you brought up that Friedman sentence, I had the exact same reaction. Before the Games, immediately after, and with nearly 4 years hindsight, the most questionable decision that Team Canada made was not putting Crosby on the squad. After being shutout in back-to-back games (and, what, 3 times total?), I didn’t hear anyone arguing that Trevor Linden was the answer.

by MattF on Nov 25, 2009 8:22 AM PST reply actions  

i also argued then, and will fight this one to the grave, that a healthy dan boyle would have been immensely better than chris pronger with a broken foot…. but yeah, having crosby and eric staal in the pressbox on a team that couldn’t score seemed like a bit of an eff-up, even at the time….

by walkinvisible on Nov 25, 2009 8:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Friedman is usually good, but that’s just a ridiculous assertion on his part. The Olympic was universally panned (somewhat before, a lot afterwards) for ignoring young up-and-comers in favor of established incumbents – many of whom were chosen solely based on their “experience”.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 25, 2009 8:38 AM PST reply actions  

many of whom were chosen solely based on their "experience".

You mean, Kris Draper? Todd Bertuzzi? Those guys? They also had a bad mix on D, as wi noted, which a healthy Scott Niedermayer might have helped to mitigate. That team had plenty of issues, but lack of experience had bugger-all to do with it.

by Robert Cleave on Nov 25, 2009 8:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Calgary looks good so far

The Sutter’s are a good combination, they assembled a respectful team within salary cap limitations. A little more offence and viola, a team that could compete with San Jose or Colorado? Jokinen is starting to fit in, however the goal is seeing Jarome Iginla hoist the Stanley Cup in Calgary. How long can we wait for this to happen. Eventually you have to make a move toward that goal or rebuild.

In the off season I was hoping the team would pick up Brendan Morrison to play with Iginlia-the experiment continuing to find his ultimate line-mates. Morrison is doing well. The other thing I was hoping for was Darcy Tucker, a fellow Kamloops Blazer from 94/95 Memorial Cup team-another one out there is Jared Aulin. Tucker isn’t lighting it up in Colorado and I don’t know what happened to Aulin-he was released by Columbus. But if Tucker could be had for a draft pick? It seems to me that Iginla’s ideal line-mates have yet to be found and I strongly believe that the Flames better keep trying to find them if they want to advance to Stanley Cup contention. Otherwise, we are always going to be faced with a pretty good team-competitive-but no Cup.

I realize its hard to find the right mix but to this point Haley Wickenheiser would have been as suitable (if they’d let her play in the NHL) as the players matched with Iginla. Watch the Olympics and Iginla will be on the top line probably with Thornton and Marleau. Iginla deserves some linemates. I hope we see a deal sometime this season as the search for Iginla’s line-mates continues. Everything else is in place Defence, Goaltending, and three solid lines. We are close.

by budgie d on Nov 25, 2009 9:44 AM PST reply actions  

Colorado’s already done. In three weeks they will be a bubble team. They had a great 12 game start and they’re already playing sub .500 hockey now.

by LawrenceS on Nov 25, 2009 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Salary Cap

I’m starting to get more and more frustrated with the current salary cap and it’s ‘seeming’ elastic limitations. Perhaps it’s because I don’t follow other teams as closely as the Flames, but seeing last years stretch drive debacle and having to play players short really irked me. NOW, I see that Chi-town is planning another one of these ‘career-contracts’ for cap reasons – 13 years to Keith. He’s bloody 26! What he’s gonna play until he’s 40? The Hawks have 1 mil in cap space, how is Hossa going to play?

Same deal in this shit-hockey town – Vancouver. How on Earth are they finding room for Demitra’s contract? He makes 4 million… I know the have a LTIR allowance but not for 3/4 of the season do they? AND they have Luongo signed until he’s 42 or whatever.

F*cking owners will always find a way around the rules. The league is going to be screwed if every team starts signing guys until 2025. And we have to send Boyd down to make room, something is screwed up when that happens.

by LawrenceS on Nov 25, 2009 9:46 AM PST reply actions  

You know, Brian Burke is a pompous dick head but he’s right about these long contracts – they are totally fraudulent….just try proving that Luongo, Hossa, Pronger and Keith aren’t gonna play in their 40’s.

by LawrenceS on Nov 25, 2009 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t have any problem with the long term contracts. The teams are basically trading future risk for current returns. The only loop-holes that piss me off are the ones that allow teams to duck these types of contracts when they go bad (Lou Lam in Jersey has been a master at this thus far).

by Kent Wilson on Nov 25, 2009 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t have a problem with long-term deals either, but I do have a problem with super long term deals. Everyone knows it’s just to reduce the cap hit, and that isn’t right – in fact, it’s contractual fraud. I’m fine if a team signs Hossa or Luongo or Pronger for a long term 6, 7, 8 years…but signing them until they are 40+ and the last years being 1mil/per is just to bring down the average. There is no way Luongo should be making 1.7 million per season less cap hit next year than with the contract that he signed out of Florida, yet that’s the case, especially when they are paying him 10million bucks next year.

If the long term deal (like Kipper’s) seems reasonable then fine, the team has to deal with the risks, but if it’s an obvious cap step around, then it’s wrong IMO. Teams are just going to add to the financial disparity again and the next CBA is going to be WW3.

by LawrenceS on Nov 25, 2009 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Basically the example is DiPietro signed for 15 years, and until he is 38 (yeah….unlikely) but they didn’t know that then…he is 4.5 across the board, even until the last year, so a 4.5 mil cap hit. Maybe Charles Wang or whatever his name is sunk the team with that contract, but at least it’s possible to fulfill at the time. Now he’s hurt…too bad Isles.

Luongo also makes 6.715 when he is 38, but then they tack on the extra 2-4 years @ 1mil or 1.5 to bring down the cap hit today, when he’s already likely to retire by or before 38, nevermind until 42. Burka said it’s against contract law in the US and I’m drinking the kool-aid. Anyway…..I’m kinda beating this horse to death.

by LawrenceS on Nov 25, 2009 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

deflation factor

The NHL has screwed up and they should have closed the barn door on these deflating contracts this summer. When the salary differential in long term deals are approaching a factor of ten – you know they are just wrong. Pronger is making $7.6 M this year and signed for 2 years at the end for $525 K. That’s less than 1/14 the of the peak value. He will not play for that – he will retire and save the team the $6.25 M cap hit on the last 2 years. How about saying that no single year of a contract can be worth more than 3 times another ? So if you want Pronger today at $7.6 – you have to pay him at least $2.5 in the last years of the contract – enough left on the table to prevent the charity retirement.

What will be interesting will be when a guy refuses to retire and the team may be forced to buy him out. Will the Flames want a 37 year old Kipper at a $5.83 cap hit in 13-14 ? If they choose to pay him out he’d be owed 2/3 of the $1.5 he is scheduled to make that year spread over 2 years. They would pay him $500 K for 2 years – that is clear – but what would the cap hit be ? 500 K per year for 2 years or $1.94 million ( 2/3 of $5.83 M spread over 2 years) for 2 ??

by PrairieStew on Nov 26, 2009 8:42 AM PST up reply actions  

I laughed my ass off when Dane Phaneuf took a run at Wickenheiser, I wonder if Red Deer will draft him in the Bantam draft and then the Flames will draft him.

30 years of the NHL's Best Hockey, It got us through some tough times.

by CofRed on Nov 25, 2009 10:21 AM PST reply actions  

it proves that smarts run in the family.

by walkinvisible on Nov 26, 2009 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

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