Flames @ Ducks Gamethread
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 6:46 PM PST
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Calgary Flames at Anaheim Ducks, Nov 23, 2009 7:00 PM PST
It's been a tough go for the Ducks. Doesn't mean the Flames can take them lightly though. Anaheim has one hell of a first line with Getzlaf and Perry and Calgary hasn't won in Anaheim since...well I can't remember.
Stuff to watch for:
- With Iginla and Jokinen having perhaps their best single game together this season LA, I'm guessing Sutter will match them against Getzlaf's trio (which is how Carlyle has been doing things this year anyways). Even with Iginla's turn around in full effect, that's not a match-up that fills me with confidence.
- Jamie Lundmark filled in well enough on the wing with the aforementioned big guns. Imagine, then, what another legitimate top 6 forward could mean for this club.
- McGrattan versus George "porn-stache" Parros this evening. Who wins? Who cares?
- With Iginla likely facing the big boys all night, perhaps guys like Langkow, Dawes, Moss, Glencross and Boyd will be able to feast on the Ducks rather dreadful forward depth.
- SNET showed a Brent Sutter interview where he praised the work of Mark Giordano, who's scoring chances and corsi numbers have gone through the roof since he moved to the third pairing.
- Kipper in net tonight. Flames will face the suddenly ineffectual JS Giguere. There was a time that would have been bad news, but no longer.
Let's get it on.
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Hey they had the lines including Sjostrom…. are they full of Shit?
I saw them:
1-Dawes-Lanks-Moss
2-Lundmark-Olli-Iggy
3-Prustrom2
4-GlenX-Connie-Boyd
by LawrenceS on Nov 23, 2009 6:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Roster for tonight. Sjostrom is out.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 23, 2009 7:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
With two quick goals? I’ve washed the Chicago game from my memory, but likely so.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 23, 2009 7:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Holy crap….that’s the kinda shots the flames need.
by LawrenceS on Nov 23, 2009 7:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
wow. eerie in hindsight, hey ?
;)
by walkinvisible on Nov 23, 2009 10:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s almost getting eerie in TOR. I mean…really? Almost makes you believe in curses.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 7:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s official: I feel sorry for Leafs fans.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 7:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL. is it eerie that i wrote eerie right before the comment where you did ? i meant it in the way that the flames got 43 shots (aka the kind they need)…
by walkinvisible on Nov 23, 2009 10:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
sitting 14 rows up in the corner, attacking zone 1st and 3rd. lots of flames fans here as always,although duck fans are as loud as any I’ve heard. a guy with a Phaneuf jersey, just in front of me, so I guess i’ll have try not to watch Phaneuf so as not to get pissed and say something bad!
good to see a couple selanne jet’s jerseys in the crowd…
by maimster on Nov 23, 2009 7:01 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
How did Nick Boynton move himself up onto a pairing with Niedermayer?
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 7:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Hmm…over/under on how many shots the Flames get this period? I say 5.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 7:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
that didn’t take long, probably it for the night
by maimster on Nov 23, 2009 7:14 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
The power vs power match-up is not what we want.
by LawrenceS on Nov 23, 2009 7:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
No. Lundmark already looks like he’s messing his shorts.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 7:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
never a good sign when it looks like your on the pk 5on5
by Jeshko on Nov 23, 2009 7:16 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Not sure what Iginla was thinking on that play close to the net.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 7:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, both not enough possession and what they do have is of low quality.
by Parallex on Nov 23, 2009 7:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Pretty cheap penalty call. We’ll take it.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 7:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
A lot more movement on the PP tonight.
Jokinen blew that play at the side of the net though.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 7:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I think Sarich took the Getzlaf shot off the face.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 7:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Sarich take a puck in the face or something?
by Parallex on Nov 23, 2009 7:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
flames playing well, moving their feet. ducks are truly a one line team
by maimster on Nov 23, 2009 7:27 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
But that’s a pretty frakkin’ good line.
by Parallex on Nov 23, 2009 7:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Right in the ear hole, by the looks of it.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 23, 2009 7:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Hell of play by Pardy, and drew the penalty to boot.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 23, 2009 7:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Mice recovery by Jokinen on that give-away there.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 7:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
the 2nd unit looked a lot better on the pp
by Jeshko on Nov 23, 2009 7:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Disagree on this by the way. Moss looks real good down low on the PP but I’d prefer the other two spots be from the 45-21-12 line
by Parallex on Nov 23, 2009 7:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, that’s a nice break, and a good snipe.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 23, 2009 7:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Glencross is money on the break-away.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 7:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Why don’t they use him more in the shootout?
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by KingJafi on Nov 23, 2009 7:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, that’s a good question.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 7:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Because Iginla who’s like 2 for 100 on shootout, has to be slotted in there somewhere.
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by KingJafi on Nov 23, 2009 7:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
well, this glenX theory obviously doesn’t hold water anymore.
by walkinvisible on Nov 23, 2009 10:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They don’t use Sjostrom either and IIRC he’s pretty good at it too.
by Parallex on Nov 23, 2009 7:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
they prefer guys who haven’t scored in 80 games
by Jeshko on Nov 23, 2009 7:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice pass, Jamie. Wrong team and all, but nice pass. Ouch.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 23, 2009 7:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I can’t fathom what Lundmark is thinking there.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 7:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Oh Jaime, when your trying to stay in the NHL you don’t do shit like that.
by Parallex on Nov 23, 2009 7:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
agreed
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by KingJafi on Nov 23, 2009 7:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Let’s see now if they can avoid the typical post-goal meltdown…
by SarahM on Nov 23, 2009 7:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
haha, spoke too soon.
As expected, that match-up is bad, bad news for the Flames.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 7:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This line is a disaster against Getzlaf’s line.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 23, 2009 7:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Seriously!! WTF is up with letting two goals within a minute. This has to be a joke.
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by KingJafi on Nov 23, 2009 7:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
is that 4 games in a row?
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by KingJafi on Nov 23, 2009 7:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
With two quick goals? I think so.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 23, 2009 7:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
More like two seasons in a row. Or is it just my imagination cause I remember it alot last year.
by Parallex on Nov 23, 2009 7:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ANA has 6 chances this period and I think all of them were by the Perry line against Iginla.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 7:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Holy crap… that it just brutal. Lundmark with a stupid play, and then he’s out again…and the Flames crumble again. This sh*t does not happen this consistently to other teams.
by LawrenceS on Nov 23, 2009 7:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Because other good teams’ top lines don’t lose their shit in their own zone all the time, Lawrence.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 23, 2009 7:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
“top lines”.
Nice shot differential, but that’s mostly the PP’s. Getzlaf et al. drank Iginla’s milkshake in that period.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 7:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that should have been in quotation marks.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 23, 2009 7:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
only 4 shots on pp. big territorial edge to flames (other than first line)
by maimster on Nov 23, 2009 7:56 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
For sure, the ice tilted away when Getzlef et al are not on the ice. They haven’t generate too many chances off of possession yet, but it will come.
by R O on Nov 23, 2009 7:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So why put the worst defensive line out twice in a row. It can’t be coaching can it? Keenan did the same thing, so are f*cking Smegal and Iron Mike equally dumb.
by LawrenceS on Nov 23, 2009 7:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, Lawrence. I don’t understand matching those two lines. There’s absolutely no chance that works out for the Flames. I can’t understand that strategy at all.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 23, 2009 7:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nor do I understand backing them with Regehr/Phaneuf.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 7:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Regehr is steady there, he’s got his man on the 2nd goal and is generally good. Phaneuf coudln’t take his man on the half-wall but that’s not a great place to commit for a D anyway, so no blame to him.
It’s the F’s, Kent, to a man. And Jokinen is leading the charge (off the cliff).
by R O on Nov 23, 2009 7:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I really miss the old Mighty Ducks uniforms and logo.
It’s not the Honda Center…it’s the Pond!!
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by KingJafi on Nov 23, 2009 7:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Chances ended up 6-5 in favor of the Ducks.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 7:47 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
find that hard to believe, but probably depends on your methodology.
by maimster on Nov 23, 2009 7:59 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
The Perry unit has had all sorts of close-in looks.
by R O on Nov 23, 2009 8:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Iginla unit vs. Getzlaf unit is a shitkicking. Thank the Lord the Ducks have no depth because that’s the only way we are going to beat them by the looks of it.
And Iginla has played the least worst here I think. He at least has picked up his man. On that 2nd goal, Jokinen can’t decide whether he’s a centre or winger, and he ends up taking nobody.
And Lundmark shows his stripes against real first line comp. I bet the CP/sports talk radio crowd couldn’t stuff it in their pants quickly enough.
I think it’s time, Brent Sutter. Time for the organization to swallow its pride, and put Jokinen permanently on the third line (or lower).
by R O on Nov 23, 2009 7:47 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Wow. Harsh. But well put and quite valid.
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by KingJafi on Nov 23, 2009 7:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That also means that Darryl Sutter has to do something about the lack of genuine top 6 forwards on this club. I mean, look at the hole that an injury to 1.4M Rene Bourque creates in this team.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 7:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know how you’re blaming Jokinen on those goals. Jokinen to me, was one of the best forwards out there. He made a good heads up pass on the glenX goal. You can’t defend the Lundmark flop…and he’s out again not blocking a shot. Iggy was playing centre on the second goal and Joker is covering the RD.
by LawrenceS on Nov 23, 2009 7:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know if that’s by decision that Joker is covering the point or if he’s covering for Iginla being out of position, but Joker can’t cover two men…
by LawrenceS on Nov 23, 2009 7:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If anything it looks like Lundmark was out of position, he’s the deepest of the three F’s by the looks of it. So I suppose Jokinen could have been covering for him. Either way though, it was a terrible sequence for the two of them. That’s a low% play by Jokinen, he has so much space to cover to get to Boynton and his best bet is to block.
And I’m not apologizing for Iggy much either, he’s the least worst, far cry from good.
by R O on Nov 23, 2009 7:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not making a comment about Iggy, I just think putting that fiasco on Jokinen is brutal. I’m not saying he was Ovechkin, but I wouldn’t blame him at all for those goals. If I’m on the bench Lundmark sits/plays 4th line for the 2nd and is told if he doesn’t get his shit together he’s not coming up again. That is unacceptable.
by LawrenceS on Nov 23, 2009 7:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe I’m stupid or ignorant…but why was Lundmark playing with Joker and Iginla in the first place?
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by KingJafi on Nov 23, 2009 8:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Because the wing depth on the this team is frankly rather shabby.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 8:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah but Moss couldn’t do the trick?
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by KingJafi on Nov 23, 2009 8:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The error is playing Lundmark against good comp to begin with. Iggy and Joker have enough problems of their own, and would likely struggle against Getzlaf-Perry under ideal circumstances.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 23, 2009 8:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Jokinen’s pass – that was all kinds of bounce. In a hundred parallel universes fully seventy of them don’t result in a sniff.
by R O on Nov 23, 2009 7:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So what? It did happen. In nine parrallel universes Lundmark doesn’t fucking suck and we’re winning too. It still, at the very least is a high percentage get the puck out with no chance of icing play…flipping it high in the air. It’s a damn smart play regardless and I’m getting a little tired of hearing how every mistake is Jokers fault. Lundmark licked bag that period and he’s the reason we’re down 2-1. Plain and simple.
by LawrenceS on Nov 23, 2009 8:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well no I just don’t characterize it as a good pass when odds-on it doesn’t work. Y’know?
Just cuz you hit a straight with 2-6 offsuit against Aces, doesn’t make it a good bet on the flop.
by R O on Nov 23, 2009 8:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, then we disagree. I don’t know shit about poker, but I know that in hockey flipping the puck high out of the zone is never a bad play and whether it’s lucky or not, doesn’t matter much to me. I just want a struggling defensive line to make smart plays getting it out without icing it…if it results in a play that leads to a goal, all the better. Either way, it’s certainly not a bad play.
by LawrenceS on Nov 23, 2009 8:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh come now, at least wait till the end of the game before being all Apocalyptic like that. giv them a chance to make those back and all that
by Parallex on Nov 23, 2009 7:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah but come on…they’ve given up goals in less than a minute in the Hawks, Kings, and Ducks game. that’s baffling…and i guarantee you that not even the Hurricanes give up shit like that.
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by KingJafi on Nov 23, 2009 7:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
1:08 or so I thought they said but point taken. Like I said earlier though that happened a ton last year too. Mental thing I think.
by Parallex on Nov 23, 2009 7:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not apocalyptic, they can win this game and it’s still well within reach but it won’t be on the back of the Iggy-Getzlaf matchup. That’s all.
I just want Jokinen off tough comp. Have wanted this since the start of the season.
by R O on Nov 23, 2009 7:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s not going to happen tonight If Jokinen sticks with Iginla. Carlyle will go for that hard match all game.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 7:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah and the sad thing is that Iginla was actually hard to push off the puck in the OFF zone in this period. So I think you put him beside Langkow and that line can go even with the Getzlaf line.
Maybe.
I might be a hopeless optimist.
by R O on Nov 23, 2009 8:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It would probably be better at least.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 8:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Flames +4. Guess which 5 Flames are in the red?
Actually, that’s no skill tester, is it?
EV shots 11-6 CGY.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 23, 2009 7:59 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Why the hell was Wiz so wide open there?
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 8:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
because he used to play for the Blackhawks
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by KingJafi on Nov 23, 2009 8:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
lol. i had a feeling you’d like that one.
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by KingJafi on Nov 23, 2009 8:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Also…why the hell is Nystrom playing with Conroy and Glencross?
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 8:05 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Sutter was saving Boyd up for a McG shift, apparently.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 23, 2009 8:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
because moss is playing with lanks and dawes and because Sutter thought it’d be a good idea to play McGrattan over Sjostrom?
by Parallex on Nov 23, 2009 8:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know. I didn’t see Boyd bad or anything in the first. Perplexing.
by R O on Nov 23, 2009 8:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The only guess I can hazard is that Sutter wants an actual center on the 4th line so it’s not a total disaster.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 8:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
for a moment there it looked like the 1st line would redeem themselves.
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by KingJafi on Nov 23, 2009 8:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Good shift at any rate. And Joker did a good job on the cover when they went the other way. Now lets see how the PP does.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 23, 2009 8:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
haha, poor ANA. Everything they do is a penalty.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 8:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I’m not feeling sympathetic right now…so that’s ok.
by LawrenceS on Nov 23, 2009 8:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Kyle Calder will be seeing Lundmark in the AHL very soon I wager.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 8:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Cheap? he was just swinging at the puck as far as I could see. Stupid maybe.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 8:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno about cheap, but careless sure…I dunno, likely under pressure we all do the same.
by LawrenceS on Nov 23, 2009 8:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, just careless, when I saw it I thought he hit him deliberately replay changed my mind
by Parallex on Nov 23, 2009 8:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
moron hockey
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by KingJafi on Nov 23, 2009 8:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
The Flames have a lot of guys who can win puck batltes against guys at their pay grade and higher.
That Perry play has to be interference. Has to be.
by R O on Nov 23, 2009 8:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Perry gets away with that a lot. He’s good at it, it’s not always interference, but it often is and it’s rarely called.
by SarahM on Nov 23, 2009 8:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know how you can even play defense these days. He …and that’s not a penalty? Fuck this.
by LawrenceS on Nov 23, 2009 8:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Ridiculous. Sometimes it stuns me how incompetent the reffing is in this league.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 8:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You guys must not watch the NBA much. Plenty of great players get away with stuff, on the basis that it’s “their move” Patrick Ewing traveled in the post every damn game for 15 years. Well, that’s Corey Perry’s move, just like it’s Holmstrom’s. He gets that call.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 23, 2009 8:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah…but if Glencross has a skate blade in the crease when a goal is scored…that’s interference.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 8:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Damn, Glenx could be at the point and get goalie interference
by LawrenceS on Nov 23, 2009 8:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Correct. If Joe Schmuck on the Indiana Pacers shuffles a foot an inch, it’s a travel. Same deal, unfortunately.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 23, 2009 8:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
When will they build perfectly objective officiating robots!?
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 8:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Man that Perry character is assholish. He’s got that CSI criminal look.
by R O on Nov 23, 2009 8:16 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
That said, he’s dangerous almost every time he’s on the ice.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 8:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Is that good or lucky decision by Kipper? Im leaning towards good.
by R O on Nov 23, 2009 8:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
He’s freezing a lot of shots so that’s what’s important. No rebounds.
by LawrenceS on Nov 23, 2009 8:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
good when the team pays attention and gets the damn puck out of the zone
by d_p_h on Nov 23, 2009 8:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That was a little risky by Kipper… but it worked.
by LawrenceS on Nov 23, 2009 8:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I think this is one of the best games I’ve seen Jokinen play, at least defensively…
you can debate if he should be playing defensively focused… but maybe he’s decided do some good work on the D-side will lead to some good work on the O-side
by d_p_h on Nov 23, 2009 8:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
yeah, I dont think he’s been bad or anything. I just think the line is overmatched. They’re facing three of the best forwards in the west.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 8:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That was a decent sequence by Jokinen and the Flames got a good zone shift out of it.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 8:21 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Iggy saw lots of kipper skate in his grille on that one…
by d_p_h on Nov 23, 2009 8:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Shouldn’t Phaneaf have taken away both those passes?
by Parallex on Nov 23, 2009 8:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
As is their custom, Flames aren’t doing anything in the 2nd period.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 8:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
The only really good one I can remember off the top of my head was against Montreal at home the first week of the season. The fact that it stands out is not good, is it?
by Robert Cleave on Nov 23, 2009 8:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nasty looking hit – was that a stick trip? I thought it looked more like boarding. But they called it tripping clearly.
Idiots. Even when they get it right, they get it wrong.
(unless I’m wrong)
by R O on Nov 23, 2009 8:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I think the stick was sort of wedged against the skate.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 8:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We really cannot afford to lose this game so they better get their heads in it. The month doesn`t end very friendly for us, so what should be an easy two points better get a little more attainable IMO
by LawrenceS on Nov 23, 2009 8:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Boy they are fraidy cats on the PK. This is the most collapsed box I’ve seen all season.
by R O on Nov 23, 2009 8:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Well Jokinen made a nice play there in the D-zone.
I still don’t think he plays well against tough comp. But credit is due.
by R O on Nov 23, 2009 8:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Right now, I’ll take progress and showing signs of improvement…
by d_p_h on Nov 23, 2009 8:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Pardy is showing some offensive progress I didn`t see last year.
by LawrenceS on Nov 23, 2009 8:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Agreed he’s made some good choices this year in that regard
by Parallex on Nov 23, 2009 8:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i also agree that pardy looks pretty effin’ solid, but i wonder how much of that is due to gio’s consistant positional abilities
by walkinvisible on Nov 23, 2009 11:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought that was Pardy’s best game last night. Yes, Gio probably deserves some credit.
by maimster on Nov 24, 2009 7:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What a chance by Jay Bou,,,
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by KingJafi on Nov 23, 2009 8:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Lanks is having a pretty good game tonight… just a couple inches a couple times and he has a couple goals, he’s making some great D plays as well
by d_p_h on Nov 23, 2009 8:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Damn these Ducks are getting away with murder. Trip on Glencross on the last PK, and a surefire hold on Iginla by Nieds, and Peter Loubardias mentioned Sarich’s stick was held (though I didn’t see).
by R O on Nov 23, 2009 8:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Well, they got some chincy ones called against them in the first, so now we have to even things up.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 8:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It just looked to me like he was doing the backstroke in the corner, waving his arms everywhere. I guess that was it.
by LawrenceS on Nov 23, 2009 8:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the trip on glenX was blatant coming up the boards out of the zone. the sarich stick holding was behind the play but UNBELIEVABLY obvious: sarich was literally YANKING on his stick and could not get it away from the ducks player….
by walkinvisible on Nov 23, 2009 11:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
(behind the net, though, and behind the play on the sarich penalty)
by walkinvisible on Nov 23, 2009 11:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Does Sutter know you don`t have to keep the same lines on the PP… Lundmark? Why not Boyd?…or many others.
by LawrenceS on Nov 23, 2009 8:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Sigh…
Is it to early to say that last years scapegoat on the PP (Keenan/Preston) might not have been to blame?
by Parallex on Nov 23, 2009 8:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Nice shot by Gio at least (I guess). Why do the Flames look bored on the PP?
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 8:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I never thought I would say this once iron mike left, but why can’t we decline penalties like football.
by d_p_h on Nov 23, 2009 8:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
but what do we get instead? five yards closer?
by LawrenceS on Nov 23, 2009 8:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Considering they were 34% or so on faceoffs last night, they may need to decline those to. Maybe just dump the puck in the corner like pickup hockey or the warmup!
by maimster on Nov 24, 2009 7:33 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thankyou….Boyd out there on the first line. Man, ask and you shall receive.
by LawrenceS on Nov 23, 2009 8:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Meh, I don’t consider him an improvement. Get Moss or someone willing to take up shop in front of the net out there.
by Parallex on Nov 23, 2009 8:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He’s an improvement over Lundmark. I don’t think there’s a debate there.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 8:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If he scores a PP goal or contributes (assist or not) to one then I’ll say he’s an improvement. Until then I stand by my statement.
by Parallex on Nov 23, 2009 8:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nine forwards for the third, I’d guess, maybe 10 if they spot Nystrom. Not much of Lundmark or McG., if I had my way.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 23, 2009 8:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Shows how badly the flames need a really good forward.
by tsukemonoki on Nov 23, 2009 8:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They have all year, and Bourque being on the shelf just exacerbates the situation.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 23, 2009 8:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Imagine if Langkow went down at the same time?
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 8:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
CRAAAAZY nice dodge by gio…. not only does he not take an elbow in the head but he actually takes bobby ryan out of the play.
by walkinvisible on Nov 23, 2009 11:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Iginla looked possessed on that shift, and vs. Getzlaf and co. too. Nice.
by R O on Nov 23, 2009 8:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Let’s hope he stays that way for the third.
by tsukemonoki on Nov 23, 2009 8:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, Gio makes the Ducks looks silly.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 8:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Flames outchanced 8-3 in that period thanks to all the Ducks PP’s.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 8:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Ahh the Flames. We have an uncanny ability to make good goalies look shitty, and struggling goalies look great.
by LawrenceS on Nov 23, 2009 8:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
These guys are idiots….yeah pound Perry cause the refs are blind and be down 5 on 3 for a century.
by LawrenceS on Nov 23, 2009 8:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Listening to between periods on SNET is bad for your brain.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 8:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think so, at least Maclean was saying that Perry should have been penalized. I think blatent contact should be a suspendable offense after the fact. What if Kipper gets sliced open like Ward? (I know that wasn’t the same and wasn’t Nash’s fault) but the same injury could happen.
by LawrenceS on Nov 23, 2009 8:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i honestly can’t watch john shannon.
by walkinvisible on Nov 23, 2009 11:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Flames +1, +5 overall. Boyd is +10. Just sayin’
EV shots 7-6 CGY, 18-12 overall.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 23, 2009 8:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Great number for Boyd. He keeps trucking along.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 8:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It would be nice if that turned into a goal, because he, and the team, could use a boost when Bourque is out.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 23, 2009 8:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So keep him on the first line…he needs those points are was being unfairly hard on him earlier today for.
by LawrenceS on Nov 23, 2009 8:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like that last shift got Iginla and Jokinen out of the red as well. Plus they had a couple shifts against not-Getzlaf in that period.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 8:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They dug themselves out towards the end. The Flames were actually -1 with about 7 minutes left in the period.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 23, 2009 8:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He’s earned it somewhat with Nystrom on those 4 on 4 shifts. That said, I don’t know if I’ve seen him start much in the D-zone. A lot of Lanks and Iggy on those move-the-puck-north gigs to my eye.
by R O on Nov 23, 2009 8:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah…mostly because he drew the McGrattan assignment. No way is Sutter starting that dude in the bad end of the ice.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 8:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There was a panic shift where I saw Prust get pinned in the D-zone, and I thought I heard Loub say McGrattan’s name as well. But I couldn’t spot 10 anywhere. Somehow I doubt it happened. But it could have.
by R O on Nov 23, 2009 8:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
These idiots are lucky not to be down by three or four though. This could have been Chicago-esque on the score clock with the way the Ducks PP is going.
And we’re not playing nearly half as well tonight at EV as we did on Thursday.
by R O on Nov 23, 2009 8:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
And we’re not playing nearly half as well tonight at EV as we did on Thursday.
Considering the quality of the opposition, likely so.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 23, 2009 8:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
comments so far match what i’m seeing. bright side is our net is winning the shot battle 30-14, so that could be good news for the third.
by maimster on Nov 23, 2009 8:49 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
What a play by Bergeron on that Sturm goal.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 8:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
So Leland Irving’s sv% is heading the wrong way….to .916% and dammit Brent Krahn is at 10-2 1.41 .958. Jeeezus.
by LawrenceS on Nov 23, 2009 8:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Abbotsford can’t kill a penalty for bugger-all, Lawrence. I’m not sure it’s on him.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 23, 2009 8:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, for sure… it’s more that Krahn couldn’t save a puck for years until we trade him. Maybe the team is dominant.
by LawrenceS on Nov 23, 2009 9:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
uhhhh…. i’m pretty sure we just let him walk. ;)
by walkinvisible on Nov 23, 2009 11:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
and it doesn’t help that the Farm is the most penalized team in the AHL.
by Parallex on Nov 23, 2009 9:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s amazing how unfortable Jokinen looks with the puck on his stick (when the option facing him isn’t SHOOOOT).
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 8:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
no need for phaneuf as gio gets better and better.
by tsukemonoki on Nov 23, 2009 9:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
don’t know about that. sometimes it looks like gio needs to hit the weightroom.
by LawrenceS on Nov 23, 2009 9:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but when you stand next to guys like Phaneaf, Bouwmeester, and Regehr all day who wouldn’t?
by Parallex on Nov 23, 2009 9:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that’s for sure. Don’t forget Pardy. I dunno why the website has him listed at 6’2" he is very obviously taller than that.
by LawrenceS on Nov 23, 2009 9:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m just saying Gio can play the power play well, so we can trade Phaneuf for that much needed forward.
by tsukemonoki on Nov 23, 2009 9:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Stilol remember that game where he couldn’t handle Byfuglien I see.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 9:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There’s been a few, but I keep quite about it because of all his other assets…there is the screening Kipper issue too, but I’m seeing that less and less.
by LawrenceS on Nov 23, 2009 9:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
plus I think the extra 5 million bucks puts more weight in Phaneuf’s pockets
by LawrenceS on Nov 23, 2009 9:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i just logged in to suggest (and i’m sure it’s been suggested by others already tonight) that gio is ON FIRE. unbelievable game…. i presume he’ll play pretty much until we get a goal or the game ends, whichever comes first….
by walkinvisible on Nov 23, 2009 9:05 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Gio looks better than Dion tonight to me.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 9:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
gio looks better than dion most nights. dion looks disinterested most nights.
by walkinvisible on Nov 23, 2009 11:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Good shifts all around
Flames are moving around well. Really winning the battles for possession.
by tsukemonoki on Nov 23, 2009 9:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Unbelievable rush by Boyd there.
I’m still nervous about his ability to play the tough minutes, but it starts tonight.
by R O on Nov 23, 2009 9:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, they look like the far better team this period.
Good see Boyd getting another chance on the Jokinen-Iginla line. I thought he acquitted himself well, failed centering pass notwithstanding.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 9:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
You know, its the same thing every game. I get my hopes up that they will score and make the game competitive but it never happens. Unlike us, our opponents never give up their lead.
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by KingJafi on Nov 23, 2009 9:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Is that true? We never win from behind? What about last game?
by tsukemonoki on Nov 23, 2009 9:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Or the several games this year where the flames tied it in the last minute and went on to win it.
by Parallex on Nov 23, 2009 9:12 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe JS is just amazing. But GlenX damn!
by tsukemonoki on Nov 23, 2009 9:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
he’s not amazing. he isn’t. the Flames have a way of pumping shots into goalies.
by LawrenceS on Nov 23, 2009 9:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That play by Sarich on Artyukin was bush.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 9:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Now we know why Glencross leads the team in chance differential. He’s been great tonight.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 9:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
And extending his lead
Two breakaways! But no goal.
by tsukemonoki on Nov 23, 2009 9:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He scored the only goal of the game for Calgary.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 9:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I just saw the highlight… He’s a monster tonight.
by tsukemonoki on Nov 23, 2009 9:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Btw, any word on what exactly is wrong with Bourque. Is he playing next game?
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by KingJafi on Nov 23, 2009 9:16 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I’ve heard he’s out till early December.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 9:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
that totally freaked me out until I remembered it’s nov 23rd.
by LawrenceS on Nov 23, 2009 9:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
lol. well Yahoo! hasnt even updated his status. no injury note.
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by KingJafi on Nov 23, 2009 9:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What are the shots in this period like?
by tsukemonoki on Nov 23, 2009 9:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Joker could of passed there instead of that spin and fling. Come on!
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by KingJafi on Nov 23, 2009 9:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
They’re all a bunch of pugnacious Brian Burke punks.
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by KingJafi on Nov 23, 2009 9:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
After crushing Kipper all night, Kipper should of just that bitch with his stick.
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by KingJafi on Nov 23, 2009 9:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think we should start running into their goalie too.
by tsukemonoki on Nov 23, 2009 9:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Wow….hosed on calls all night (except the first period).
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by KingJafi on Nov 23, 2009 9:21 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
It’s been a good chase period by the Flames, but they aren’t getting any bounces.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 9:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Awful pass by Dawes on that one sequence though.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 9:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
40 to 28!
Damn… we do make js look good.
by tsukemonoki on Nov 23, 2009 9:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Highest shot output of the year by the Flames.
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by KingJafi on Nov 23, 2009 9:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah its too bad. As Kent just pointed out, no bounces for us.
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by KingJafi on Nov 23, 2009 9:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
is it to much to ask for a clean win to the point, and a tip in front?
by Jeshko on Nov 23, 2009 9:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
HOLY SHIT!!!!!
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by KingJafi on Nov 23, 2009 9:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
That’s a pretty soft one. Nice, though.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 23, 2009 9:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
JS isn’t that good. 2 assists for Joker.
by tsukemonoki on Nov 23, 2009 9:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ggeezus
what a time to step up Iggy and Joker
by d_p_h on Nov 23, 2009 9:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
that was a hell of a pass if he meant to put it off the skate
by d_p_h on Nov 23, 2009 9:30 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
THE CARDIAC FLAMES
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by KingJafi on Nov 23, 2009 9:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Honestly. I’m not complaining, but is it too much to ask for to score that last goal two minutes earlier?
by SarahM on Nov 23, 2009 9:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
haha nice. Good play by Jokinen on that rush. Nice bounce on the shot too.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 9:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Seriously, I think this has been Joker’s best game…in my eyes. he’s getter better…just at glacial speed.
by LawrenceS on Nov 23, 2009 9:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Joker is having a solid game.
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by KingJafi on Nov 23, 2009 9:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What was Getzlaf doing on that play??
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 9:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Well, it’s nothing less than they deserve, really. EV shots were 18-7 in the third.
As for Joker-Iggy, after about the middle of the second, they’ve been good.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 23, 2009 9:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Or the several games this year where the flames tied it in the last minute and went on to win it.
by Parallex on Nov 24, 2009 12:12 AM EST
…what can I say, I was wrong.
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by KingJafi on Nov 23, 2009 9:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, why was he circling… GlenX alone in front again?!
by tsukemonoki on Nov 23, 2009 9:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus, that was like a two minute shift by that line.
by LawrenceS on Nov 23, 2009 9:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
So you think GlenX will get a chance at the shootout?
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by KingJafi on Nov 23, 2009 9:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
You mean in the initial three? Doubt it.
by Parallex on Nov 23, 2009 9:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I hate shootouts.
Why don’t they make it 2 on 1 drills.
by tsukemonoki on Nov 23, 2009 9:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Man three star selection is gonna be tough tonight.
by Parallex on Nov 23, 2009 9:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Losing goalie third, game winning “goal” second, winning goalie first.
Giguere’s oversized pads have been phenomenal tonight.
by Resolute on Nov 23, 2009 9:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much we’ve just been shooting it into the pads.
by tsukemonoki on Nov 23, 2009 9:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Like I said, his pads were phenomenal. ;)
by Resolute on Nov 23, 2009 9:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Shoot-out. That shift by Joker-Iggy-Phaneuf-Gio was as good as you can do without a goal.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 23, 2009 9:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Well, then Gio was caught flatfooted in the neutral zone.
by tsukemonoki on Nov 23, 2009 9:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You just gotta deke Giguere and put it up… goal every time.
by LawrenceS on Nov 23, 2009 9:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Well, aside from a terrible first, I was pretty happy with the Iginla/Jokinen duo tonight. That might be the first time I’ve said that this year.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 9:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
yeah they did a good job
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by KingJafi on Nov 23, 2009 9:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Jokinen had a stronger game than Iggy did..
by d_p_h on Nov 23, 2009 9:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Jokinen had a really good 3rd I thought.
by Parallex on Nov 23, 2009 9:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It should be Dawes, …umm…. dawes…… I dunno….guys who can deke.
by LawrenceS on Nov 23, 2009 9:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
It doesn’t matter. we went from 0 points to 1 point. Shootouts are stupid anyway.
by tsukemonoki on Nov 23, 2009 9:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Perry is just going to jump on Kipper.
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by KingJafi on Nov 23, 2009 9:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Wait!
he lost possession. Doesn’t that mean he doesn’t get an opp!?
by tsukemonoki on Nov 23, 2009 9:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Five hole, why do they go for JS’s five hole?
by tsukemonoki on Nov 23, 2009 9:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
nice pokecheck!
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by KingJafi on Nov 23, 2009 9:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Pokecheck genius
he’s a pokecheck genius.
by tsukemonoki on Nov 23, 2009 9:45 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
That’s the elder Finn schooling the younger Finn.
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by KingJafi on Nov 23, 2009 9:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
that shouldn’t be allowed. he stopped.
by tsukemonoki on Nov 23, 2009 9:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Ah, Teemu. I can never hate you, you bastard.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 23, 2009 9:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
If anyone is going to beat us, I accept that it be Selanne.
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by KingJafi on Nov 23, 2009 9:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m a Jets fan from the dark ages, KJ. Just how it is. I was in the building the night he broke Bossy’s rookie record.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 23, 2009 9:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I hate the shootout
Did I mention I hate the shootout?
by tsukemonoki on Nov 23, 2009 9:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ducks did not deserve that win, I thought. Their goalie won it for them.
That being said, why the hell is Dawes shooting before Iginla?
by Resolute on Nov 23, 2009 9:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Ah well, we got a charity point at least.
by Parallex on Nov 23, 2009 9:47 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Actually, they did. That was a tie game.
by Resolute on Nov 23, 2009 9:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Meh, we “lost” the game but still got a point so I call it a charity point. I’d rather go back to having tie games to be honest but that’s not how the powers that be want it done these days.
by Parallex on Nov 23, 2009 9:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If we lost in overtime, I’d agree. But since Anaheim did not win a hockey game last night, they were the ones receiving a charity point for succeeding in a gimmick that has absolutely nothing to do with hockey.
by Resolute on Nov 24, 2009 7:06 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
At least they competed and got a point out of this one. Goodnight fellas.
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by KingJafi on Nov 23, 2009 9:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Well, i was relatively pleased with that effort. The first had the trademark 2 minutes hate and the second was littered with penalties, but it was solid otherwise.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 9:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Man, that freaking sucked. Why didn’t they deke on Giguere? Do they have no scouts? Even I know you don’t shoot on the guy. ARGHHH. I say….don’t shoot, what do all three do? Shoot.
by LawrenceS on Nov 23, 2009 9:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
That’s when you wish you still had Huselius in the line-up.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 9:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah no kidding. JS has been in the league long enough that they should know this by now. On penalty shots his angles are impecable. You gotta get him moving, and you’ll almost never beat him low.
by LawrenceS on Nov 23, 2009 9:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Entertaining game, anyway. I didn’t think we played too well, we won the depth battle but our top guys were destroyed in the first thirty or so minutes. I think the ice was pretty evenly tilted through two at EV, but that’s not exactly a victory.
You wonder what happens if the Ducks PP even clicks with one goal. Surely they deserved it, they were dangerous on the man advantage allnnight and the Flames PK couldn’t handle them at all.
Full credit for the comeback though, and Iginla looked possessed in the latter half of the game. And Jokinen made me a liar, for the last half of this game at least – although you watch, he will stink at PVP again.
But the Ducks got shortchanged only being up 2-1 going in the third, and I have no qualms admitting that.
And I hate to be the lone contrarain voice. But that’s how I saw it.
P.S. the reffing was pretty even in the third I thought. The Ducks got away with a ton of obstruction, but so did the Flames D on the odd Ducks chance.
by R O on Nov 23, 2009 9:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Didn’t really look like that at the game. Ducks fans around us were generally thanking their lucky stars that they got a point, and I’d tend to agree.
by maimster on Nov 24, 2009 7:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That said, I think the Flames looked ok in OT, which is where you might see some pushback from the Ducks. It looked to me like they outchanced the Ducks there, but I’ll wait for Kent’s count for that.
by R O on Nov 23, 2009 9:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
The Ducks did not deserve to win this game a gift from Jamie Lundmark won them this game. We dominated and they deserved the whole two points.
Why does Giggy have to wake up against us.
Not happy with the result but their are a lot of good things that can be taken from this game.
30 years of the NHL's Best Hockey, It got us through some tough times.
by CofRed on Nov 23, 2009 10:00 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Jamie Lundmark is a player on this roster. Thus, his mistakes cannot be separated from our team’s mistakes. And his mistake completely reflects his calibre as a player, and the disparity between that skill level and that of our opposition.
If anything, one would look at Kent’s chance count and be glad he didn’t cost us more goals.
by R O on Nov 23, 2009 10:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Scoring chances are up. I think the results will surprise people…because they actually surprise me.
Iginla and Jokinen still underwater. Glencross +7!
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 10:00 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
And Lundmark shows he really is an AHLer…-5 in this game.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 10:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
5-5 at EV in the third is surprising as hell. Must have been the transition chances. It happens. But the first two periods are exactly in line imo.
I would have expected Iggy underwater, that first three or four Getslav vs. Iggy shifts were excrucatingly bad to watch. I mean, you expect a bit more from your leaders right? And that’s just the hockey fan in me speaking. The cold hearted bastard is even worse.
by R O on Nov 23, 2009 10:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Must have been the transition chances.
Pretty much. The Ducks had two real stints in the zone and they resulted in shots and rebounds, which are scoring chance gold. The Flames spent way more time in the good end, but there was a lot of point shots, blocks and shots from the side.
Glencross is a freaking beast by this metric.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 10:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If you want to grant that Joker is a “good” player, having Lundmark out there is still three on two, R O. That’s a problem until the Flames reconfigure the lines. Bourque being out just adds to the problem.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 23, 2009 10:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough, and it was a good adjustment to put Boyd there in retrospect.
You still know my feelings on Jokinen. And the gamble paid off tonight (keeping him on Iggy’s line after the 30 minute mark) but we know it’s not going to last.
by R O on Nov 23, 2009 10:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sure. I don’t like him PvP at all, and haven’t. He has no history in his entire career that would suggest he’s capable of it. I can understand why it happens, but I don’t have to like it.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 23, 2009 10:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well…it paid off with a tie, gained in the last minute of the game.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 10:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok I just checked out the +7 you were talking about. You ddin’t say it was 7-0!!!!
Damn. THAT is how you play in the NHL.
by R O on Nov 23, 2009 10:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I ahd a feeling it would be a big number as I counted the game, but I didn’t think it would be that lop-sided. He was outstanding this evening.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 23, 2009 10:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Surprised me – I was in the Flame offensive end and I thought there were way more than 5 scoring chances. Could be getting caught up in the crowd emotion.
Seriously, other than the first 5 minutes, a couple of random PvP shifts and the PP in the second, it never felt like Anaheim was in this game, and that crowd, which is usually very rowdy, was extremely subdued the entire game. I never noticed anyone for Anaheim except the first line (and Carter taking dumb penalties). Don’t think the numbers do this one justice (with the exception of GlenX, who was worth every penny).
by maimster on Nov 24, 2009 8:00 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The chance count would have been a totally different story if the Flames didn’t spend half the second period on the PK I think. Part of that was them and part of that was the officials going out of their way to “even up” the call tally after the Flames enjoyed a couple more PP’s in the first.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 24, 2009 9:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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