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Flames @ Kings Gamethread

Calgary Flames at Los Angeles Kings, Nov 21, 2009 1:00 PM PST


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The Kings are a team that looks poised to finally stray out of the West's basement and start being competitive again. I think they have one of the most impressive collections of top 6 forwards in the WC this year, especially given the way Kopitar is playing.

Things to watch for:

- Even with Smyth gone, Kopitar is going to be handful for whoever gets that assignment. He's probably already one of the best young centers in the game and he'll be playing with Justin Williams (no slouch when he's healthy) and Alexander Frolov. Sometimes Dustin Brown slides to the first line too and he's a legitimate power forward in his own right.

- Drew Doughty is quite the player. Not physically imposing in any sense, but he impressed me with his poise, vision and high IQ when I watched him previously. I think he'll become one of the premier defenders in the league at some point.

- Ironically, Olli Jokinen had his best individual performance of the season against the Hawks. He scored his first legit goal of the season - a snipe to the top corner - and was actually fairly dangerous otherwise. He also led the team with 7 shots on net. While one game does not a turn-around make, it's nice to finally have some indication that Jokinen can actually do damage in the offensive zone. He'd be far less a worrisome if he was at least not a liability in one end of the ice.

Let the expletives fly.

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Interesting line comobs listed by SNet:

Lundmark-Jokinen-Iginla
Dawes-Langkow-Moss
Glencross-Conroy-Boyd
Nystrom-Prust-Sjostrom

Those are the bottom two lines that generated so many scoring chances in the first few games of the year.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 12:56 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Lundmark, is this the first time he got the call up?

by Outz on Nov 21, 2009 1:00 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

To some degree, probably. I mean, he’s never actually been that good a player, but he’s at least managed to put up shots and points in the past.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 1:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i think matts evalution is correct: “a poor player with a hard shot”

by shep_ on Nov 21, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

great quote from rudy over at boc:

The Kings play the Calgary Flames, which is awesome because it means I get to see Jay Bouwmeester and Craig Conroy. I love Bouwmeester because he’s probably one of the smartest players in hockey and it’ll be fascinating to watch him in contrast to one of the dumbest, Dion Phaneuf. I like to think that Phaneuf and Jack Johnson will start slashing and jawing at each other and then Bouwmeester and Doughty will just kind of look at each other and shake their heads in bewilderment.

by shep_ on Nov 21, 2009 1:07 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Well…that’s absolutely ridiculous.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 1:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

How many times have the Flames scored in the first minute this year??

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

…and how many times have they held that early lead ?

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 1:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

holy shit.
that’s a good first shift for lundy…:)

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 1:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Igggggggy, 13 seconds in!

by Outz on Nov 21, 2009 1:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

haha, fast start again

watch them give up 20 straight shots

by shep_ on Nov 21, 2009 1:10 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

i see sutter has gone status quo with the d pairings…. no surprise there, i guess…

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 1:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

interesting, however, that gio and pardy are backing up the langkow (aka #1) line against the tough comp

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 1:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Im trying to sort out the match-ups. They’ve been cluttered early, so Im not sure that’s the way it is tonight.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 1:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

that’s what it looked like to me, but it’s admittedly early.

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think the Kings are trying to get different match-ups than Sutter, so it’ll probably depend on how that goes.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 1:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

proven just then, actually.

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 1:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i disagree on the line juggling. i think we’ll see the apocalypse line all day, and moss fulltime on the langkow line. then some double shifting on the bottom lines, perhaps….

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 1:16 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

looks like power vs power to me

by shep_ on Nov 21, 2009 1:20 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I think the Kings are going for PvP, but Sutter is trying to get Langkow out versus Kopitar when he can.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 1:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

is this not the same thing ?

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 1:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

well, assuming one considers Iginla/Jokinen a “power” line.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

which i generally don’t. but they HAVE been improving….

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

flames bottom 6 > kings bottom 6 imo

by shep_ on Nov 21, 2009 1:20 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I agree. Especially with Ivanans out there.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

who kinda just schooled regehr, i might add….

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 1:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

having ivanans on a 3rd line is not good

by shep_ on Nov 21, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i bet it sounds like fubar (movie) in the penalty box right now

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 1:23 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I like GlenX a lot better as a third liner, myself.

by Robert Cleave on Nov 21, 2009 1:23 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

He’s the worst passer on the team I suspect.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 1:24 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

i think he’s capable physically, but he makes TERRIBLE decisions FREQUENTLY

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You shoulda passed that scouting report on to Daz last spring ;-)

by Robert Cleave on Nov 21, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

lots of flames jerseys in the stands, plus a roughriders jersey (love that) but this place is half empty.

by maimster on Nov 21, 2009 1:25 PM PST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

can we see you, or what ?

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i’m 8 rows up from the zamboni entrance in the corner, over kippers right shoulder, only two flame jerseys anywhere near.

by maimster on Nov 21, 2009 1:40 PM PST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

regehr and dion are gonna be brutal again today methinks.

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 1:25 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that was a poor sequence there.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

hm. so with ivanans (sp?) out there and no mcG, who does prust fight ?

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 1:27 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

hard to say. maybe glenX will fight. or gio —he’s due for a good dustup. :P

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

28-3 looks terrible.

5 had a nice 4on4 shift

10 swedish kronor that brown draws at least one cheap penalty

by shep_ on Nov 21, 2009 1:29 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

i love betting in kronor !!! :) just kidding, i’ve never done it….

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

this is probably an awesome gametime for you, hey shep ?

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

yah, love the eastern roadtrips :)

by shep_ on Nov 21, 2009 1:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sutter working the match-ups hard. He just pulled the 4th line off right away.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 1:29 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

fuck yeah gio

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 1:30 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

holy crap !! the zebras can see us today !!!

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 1:32 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

jeebus. 21 is horrible

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 1:33 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Well, good control but no real chances.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 1:33 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

okay. here or never.

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 1:34 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

jokinen !!!?!?!?!?!?!?!

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 1:35 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

why is he still out there and where was he aiming at?

by Outz on Nov 21, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

GODAMMTI JOKINEN

by shep_ on Nov 21, 2009 1:35 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

That shot of Joker’s was closer to me than to the net (note: I’m in WInnipeg)

by Robert Cleave on Nov 21, 2009 1:35 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

shep’s feed is clearly a few seconds behind, hey ? ;)

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 1:36 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

good engagement by lundmark.

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 1:36 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

so when does sutter stop giving jokinen primo ice time ? it’s frustrating as hell to watch.

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 1:37 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Next October, when he’s on another team.

by Robert Cleave on Nov 21, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

ah. right. shize….

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Cmon Phaneuf…get the puck into the zone. Jesus.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 1:38 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

terrible, just stupid penalty

by Outz on Nov 21, 2009 1:39 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, not a fan. Glencross has to be smarter than that. Hooking penalties in the offensive zone always suck.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 1:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

True. I’m not exactly a fan of the Ethan Moreau school of stupid.

by Robert Cleave on Nov 21, 2009 1:41 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

accidental. but unfortunate, yes. and, as is the flames MO, i would imagine the kings shall score on this one (being that there’s only a couple mins left in the period, plus they have a PP).

shall we wager kroner on how many seconds/minutes in that the kings will score ?

i’ll say kopitar in 44 seconds. yep.

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 1:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

m. okay. i’m wrong.

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 1:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

not too bad on that PK, maybe the ‘sutter’ talk actually gets to the flames… its been a while since I have seen a fine PK by the flames in the last few games…

by Outz on Nov 21, 2009 1:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

it was dustin brown, you touch him he falls down

by shep_ on Nov 21, 2009 1:41 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah. He draws a ton of penalties every year.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 1:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

god, boyd looks like a bonafide NHLer

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 1:43 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Well, I thought that was a fairly solid period. Nothing spectacular, but they didn’t give up much in the way of top notch scoring chances.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 1:46 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

look at old man conroy during the breakout and then jokinen. connie is so much easier to play with

by shep_ on Nov 21, 2009 1:46 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Scoring chance count was 8-5 in favor of Calgary.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 1:46 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

love the 28-4 pairing on the pk btw

by shep_ on Nov 21, 2009 1:47 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

1:27 seems a lot, though. with 6/3 taking the other :33. interesting….

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 1:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

ironic based on comments, but joker has actually looked good live. gio,bouw have looked really good, and reggie really suffers from having to play with dion.

by maimster on Nov 21, 2009 1:50 PM PST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

shaggy haired in an iggy jersey ?

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 1:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah there was that play where he took out… damn I can’t remember, Williams? brown? Whoever it was, Regehr along the boards takes his man, puck is free and clear, Dion can’t recover it. I mean the other LA forechecker was on his ass but still, the defencemen are supposed to break that, and the better ones ought to break it more.

by R O on Nov 21, 2009 1:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Just got home from work and saw the last shift. Looked good there, seems like a fairly even period from the basic boxscore stats. Early lead as usual, which scares me.

Lundmark has a strong game I suspect.

-Colin

by Colin S on Nov 21, 2009 1:50 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Corsi.

Flames +5, EV shots 8-7 CGY. Better.

Phaneuf is only averaging about one minute a game of PK time this season. That’s a smart move, I’d say.

by Robert Cleave on Nov 21, 2009 1:51 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

gio’s been playing the pk, which is why i thought it interesting that dion had more PK time than #5.

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Pretty low event game so far. The Flames are a tad sloppy but are stymying the Kings in the neutral zone. However the Kings are doing much the same to the Flames.

That PP was more of the same as Thursday night. Charlie Simmer needs to bust out his “move his feet” line, it’s apropo. The Flames can’t open up seams unless they start moving both the puck and themselves.

They should take note from the Kings PP though.

by R O on Nov 21, 2009 1:57 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

but joker has actually looked good live

are we watching the same game ? is joker still jokinen’s nickname ? cause maybe he’s okay off the puck but he’s definitely missed some serious on-net opportunities for a first line centre.

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 1:58 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

yeah, I meant off the puck, positionally, etc. still can’t score though.

short hair, no name on jersey

by maimster on Nov 21, 2009 2:25 PM PST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

are we betting kroner on the bad change/opposition goal ? :)

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 2:03 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

There’s Jarome fleeing the zone while the puck is still in the corner. Cut it out, Iggy.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 2:03 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

He always does that

Didn’t watch the game, but Iggy always seems to do that and frequently it results in a scoring chance by the opposition.

by tsukemonoki on Nov 21, 2009 7:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

PRUSTROM !!!!!

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 2:07 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

This team is a fucking joke.

Nice 20 minutes and out, Calgary.

by Resolute on Nov 21, 2009 2:08 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

hey remember when the flames could get scored on and it doesn’t mean a meltdown ?

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 2:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yep. 2004-2006, wasn’t it?

by Robert Cleave on Nov 21, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh. As soon as the opposition scores a single goal I start to feel sick, because I know that another is likely coming. What a disaster.

by SarahM on Nov 21, 2009 2:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Quick goals against 3 games in a row now.

-Colin

by Colin S on Nov 21, 2009 2:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

dion, dion, dion, dion.

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 2:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Head is up his ass cause he was probably partying hard with his gf last night.

Spreading that Calgary Flames, Montreal Expos, The U, and Orlando Magic love.

by KingJafi on Nov 21, 2009 2:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Flames allow 2 goals in less than a minute. What’s new?

Spreading that Calgary Flames, Montreal Expos, The U, and Orlando Magic love.

by KingJafi on Nov 21, 2009 2:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

True. Flames love to give up their goals in bunches.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Jokinen soft as butter on the puck in his own zone. Just awful.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 2:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Frolov unit vs. Iginla unit ends poorly.

by R O on Nov 21, 2009 2:10 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

we have never been a second period team, but we’ve turned that quirk into something altogether different.

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 2:10 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

did boyd just draw a penalty !?!?? REJOICE !!!!

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 2:12 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

i think this might be a first !!!

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 2:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Should of scored there. At least they pick up the penalty.

Spreading that Calgary Flames, Montreal Expos, The U, and Orlando Magic love.

by KingJafi on Nov 21, 2009 2:12 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

20-24-16 looks good

by shep_ on Nov 21, 2009 2:12 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Well, good couple shifts by the 2nd and 3rd lines.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 2:12 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I hope Sutter has schooled the Flames on the art of the PP in the intermission.

by R O on Nov 21, 2009 2:12 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

do i dare suggest the PP was better when we didn’t practice it ? ;)

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 2:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

you know he did and you know they didn’t retain zip

Spreading that Calgary Flames, Montreal Expos, The U, and Orlando Magic love.

by KingJafi on Nov 21, 2009 2:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

dion is beyond terrible. MUST hold the zone on that play.

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 2:13 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

im telling you, he probably partied too hard last night with his gf and her hollyweird pals

Spreading that Calgary Flames, Montreal Expos, The U, and Orlando Magic love.

by KingJafi on Nov 21, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

hahaha probably

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 2:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice win by Lundmark. He was always good on F/O’s wasn’t he?

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 2:13 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

bit of a dive by gio….

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 2:14 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

would like to see that again

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 2:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

okay maybe not.

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Looked like a trip to me. I don’t think Gio willfully goes down with the puck on his stick there.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, here comes Hockey’s Best 5 on 3™

by Robert Cleave on Nov 21, 2009 2:15 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

no jokinen here on the 5 on 3

by shep_ on Nov 21, 2009 2:15 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

THAT is good PP.

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 2:15 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

what a pass

by Outz on Nov 21, 2009 2:15 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Thank goodness.

-Colin

by Colin S on Nov 21, 2009 2:15 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I must be dreaming… that looked a lot like a goal on a 5 on 3. Our first in what? 18 months?

by Resolute on Nov 21, 2009 2:16 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

First one this season, that’s for sure.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 2:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

thank you

Spreading that Calgary Flames, Montreal Expos, The U, and Orlando Magic love.

by KingJafi on Nov 21, 2009 2:16 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

That is ALL bouwmeester. That seam doesn’t open without that movement.

Thank God someone on this team doesn’t have his head up his ass on the man advantage.

by R O on Nov 21, 2009 2:16 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

that’s what i meant, btw, when i said “ALL jaybouw” just above here….
i like that we think the same, at least. :P

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 2:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah it started out unpromisning. Then you see phaneuf with the puck, and then WTF bouwmeester’s moving???

I swear you could here from here, the words “enough of this shit” from 4.

by R O on Nov 21, 2009 2:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

EXACTLY what i read in the thought bubble above his helmet…. like, EXACTLY (though it might have started “come ON dion !!!” ;)

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 2:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Jokkkkkkkker.

by Outz on Nov 21, 2009 2:17 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

it is starting to feel like gio’s been watching jaybouw (and learning some stuff)

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 2:22 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

he really does seem to be modelling his game after #4. he pinches intelligently, passes amazingly and seems to be in position about 98% of the time…. mind you, he was starting to do that last year….

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 2:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So... trade Phaneuf

We’ve got Gio… he doesn’t have the hard shot, but he seems to have good offensive instincts.

by tsukemonoki on Nov 21, 2009 7:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Is there anyway we can keep Lundmark after Bourque recovers? Seriously, I’ve liked him better then any of the other revolving cast on the Jokinen Iginla line.

by Parallex on Nov 21, 2009 2:25 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I agree. Lundmark looks good for an AHL call-up

by LawrenceS on Nov 21, 2009 2:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He should be on the team ahead of a guy like McGrattan, that’s for sure.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 2:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

but mcgrattan is so good at bleeding !!!

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 2:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice little head fake by Iginla there. Too bad he fell, but that could have been a vintage Iggy flash.

by R O on Nov 21, 2009 2:25 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

that was a simple clearing attempt that went bad for 3/28. ryan mcgill needs to put it in his video teachings.

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 2:26 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Gio is a goalie’s NIGHTMARE on those shots.

by LawrenceS on Nov 21, 2009 2:27 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

part of me feels bad for the guy, part of me wants him to take a couple weeks off and go to the bahamas or something.

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 2:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

ANOTHER post for Joker

by LawrenceS on Nov 21, 2009 2:28 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Haha Joker. Can’t buy a goal.

-Colin

by Colin S on Nov 21, 2009 2:28 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

i want the prustrom line to hustle like that some more.

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 2:29 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Pardy should have carried that up.

-Colin

by Colin S on Nov 21, 2009 2:29 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Bouwmeester’s not the hitter Regehr is, but he uses his size very well behind the net.

by R O on Nov 21, 2009 2:31 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

although, he’s lucky he didn’t get a holding call against richardson with his right arm around his neck…. but I’m more than ok with that.

by LawrenceS on Nov 21, 2009 2:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

4 is like lidström, never gets out of position for the sake of a hit

by shep_ on Nov 21, 2009 2:31 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

that seems like a lot of offsides to me.

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 2:33 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah the linesman probably fell asleep there. Damn, would’ve been a surefire chance.

But what is Iggy doing at centre ice there again? Fuckin fuck.

by R O on Nov 21, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

well because he doesn’t really have a centreman.

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I meant that the puck wasn’t out of the zone yet.

by R O on Nov 21, 2009 2:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

oh i gotchya.

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 2:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I certainly hope you don’t want Joker out at centre instead of in the defensive zone where he should be.

by LawrenceS on Nov 21, 2009 2:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I was alright with that one. He saw Lundmark get the puck and took off. Smart play by Lundmark too.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 2:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

smart play considering it’s not like they practiced it…

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 2:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It’s always a balancing act, right? You want your skill guys to anticipate a chance, but cheating up all the time seems like a poor risk.

by Robert Cleave on Nov 21, 2009 2:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, for sure. Unfortunately Iggy looks to be cheating more often than he should this season. Jokinen too.

by R O on Nov 21, 2009 2:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

we are gonna get some serious make-up calls in the third if we’re not careful…

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 2:38 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Weak call there, but I’ll take it.

-Colin

by Colin S on Nov 21, 2009 2:38 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

definitely….didn’t help the stick got caught in the hole in the skate…it’s really over obvious then.

by LawrenceS on Nov 21, 2009 2:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I’ll have to have another look at it.

-Colin

by Colin S on Nov 21, 2009 2:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Lawrence is right, though…it probably isn’t called without the stick in the skate.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ah….the old stick stuck in the skate trick… that is always a frustrating penalty.

by LawrenceS on Nov 21, 2009 2:39 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

juuuust bruuuuuutal PP

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 2:39 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

if it wasn’t so effing depressing, it would actually be kindof funny how bad he is.

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 2:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

5-5 was the scoring chance count in that period.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 2:40 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Tough to make a lane when everyone, including the passer, is standing around like they’re waiting for a damn bus.

by Robert Cleave on Nov 21, 2009 2:41 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah. The PP has become so bloody static recently.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That was my biggest complaint last year as well. Everyone spends their time trying to feed a stand-still shooter.

by Robert Cleave on Nov 21, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So much open ice available, so little skating and puck distribution.

Ice tilted to the Calgary net that period at EV.

by R O on Nov 21, 2009 2:41 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

the jokinen debacle is so frustrating, cant we just cut him? “sorry we dont want you”

by shep_ on Nov 21, 2009 2:42 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

we’ve got bigger problems than only one player and you can’t cut 23 of em. Although he is likely one of the most glaring.

by LawrenceS on Nov 21, 2009 2:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

my brother and I are trying to broker a Phaneuf trade but none of the fans around here are interested. they appear to be intelligent fans.

by maimster on Nov 21, 2009 2:42 PM PST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

they won’t take him for a dud like kopitar ??? sheeesh….

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 2:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well…Dion is universally hated outside of Calgary too.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 2:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

elisha seems to like’im.

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 2:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

His fat paycheck, anyways. Not that she doesn’t pull in a bunch herself.

-Colin

by Colin S on Nov 21, 2009 2:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

she prob pulls in significantly less than her beau…

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 2:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Corsi.

CGY -4, so -9 in the period. Ice tilted indeed.

EV shots LA 19-13, so LA 12-5 in the second.

by Robert Cleave on Nov 21, 2009 2:45 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yup. As usual, the Flames got a lead in the first and then gave it all back in the second. Those two awful shifts in a row probably did a bunch of the damage.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 2:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think so. I remember them going from about +5 to zero quite rapidly.

by Robert Cleave on Nov 21, 2009 2:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Also, this game resembles the first couple in terms of possession at ES: the first line getting killed by the other big boys, while the Flames bottom 6 takes out the other guys bottom 6. At least, however, Iginla is scoring on his chances.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not to mention that his counterpart is Frolov, who is a wonderful young player. He’s a guy who I want the Flames to pursue.

by R O on Nov 21, 2009 2:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

laughingly, the SNET crew has been going after Frolov in both intermissions.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 2:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And this is a surprise, why? All they need is Doug MacLean telling another tale about how he screwed up Columbus, and the day would be complete.

by Robert Cleave on Nov 21, 2009 2:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sportsnet is a funny-little-man station.

by R O on Nov 21, 2009 2:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

(just lightening the mood)

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 2:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

oh, he plays for the hamburg freezers.

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 2:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yup. Fled to Europe a couple years ago.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 2:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

-God damn Bouwmeester is good, but I’ve been surprised at how often I’ve noticed Corey Sarich making a good play.

-The Kings need to shoot Ivanans into the Sun.

-Jim Fox LOVES Kiprusoff.

-Craig Conroy is a lovable son of a bitch.

-Doughty is awesome.

-Go Kings.

The West Coast is the Best Coast.

by RudyKelly on Nov 21, 2009 2:54 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Stupid question: Is RudyKelly a play on the goaltender’s name?

by R O on Nov 21, 2009 2:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

serious? or am I just biting at the obvious

by LawrenceS on Nov 21, 2009 2:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No seriously.

by R O on Nov 21, 2009 2:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not him, but I can safely say: yes, it is.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 2:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Try Kelly Rudy….then re-spell it

by LawrenceS on Nov 21, 2009 2:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ha I know. I should have looked it up myself, Wikipedia confirms the guy played for LA.

by R O on Nov 21, 2009 2:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nope! It’s just an anagram of my real name: Dry Ell Yuk.

The West Coast is the Best Coast.

by RudyKelly on Nov 21, 2009 2:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Jokinen is a killer. A killer of plays.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 2:58 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

That’s two in a row for them….definitely penalties, but man, that’s two bad luck stick infractions. Flames better not be merciful.

by LawrenceS on Nov 21, 2009 3:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

LA will be on the PP for the rest of the game after this….. mark my words… we need to be HELLA careful cause the zebras need to even shit up.

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 3:00 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

it’s funny, it’s funny, it’s funny, it’s funny….. right ?

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 3:01 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

The positive side is that those HAVE to start going in eventually. Nobody can be that unlucky for 82 consecutive games.

by LawrenceS on Nov 21, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i totally disagree. it’s been 20 games (plus last year) so why would i think it will change ?

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 3:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

good try, but no luck.

by Outz on Nov 21, 2009 3:02 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

lol you could hear lundmark on that one. i think it was the F word.

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 3:02 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Too many PP chances are coming from the transition, so difficult to get second and third chances.

Damn, Olli can’t buy a goal. Still a horrible player but that’s just bad luck or something.

by R O on Nov 21, 2009 3:02 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Honestly, and I hate to say it, but I think glenX is trying to challenge for least effective Flame. He hasn’t done shit-much for about 10 games….less get suspended.

by LawrenceS on Nov 21, 2009 3:04 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

He was fantastic in the game after his suspension ended I thought. Otherwise, he’s been fighting it.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 3:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

moss is equally up for that award, IMO.

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

he’s surely had stretches of good, but he…and maybe Mosser, are struggling for sure.

by LawrenceS on Nov 21, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Beauty shift by 20-24-16 vs. the Frolov/Kopitar unit.

by R O on Nov 21, 2009 3:04 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Kings are hanging 5 guys in the neutral zone. Yeesh.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 3:05 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

this is the very penalty i was talking about.

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 3:06 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

….and i’m guessing we’ll see the very goal i was anticipating, as well.

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 3:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

there goes all theories: including that glenX is hibernating

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 3:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

that was so nice I couldn’t even spell.

by LawrenceS on Nov 21, 2009 3:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Damn, who expected that?

Great PK forecheck.

by R O on Nov 21, 2009 3:10 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

will moss do the same ?

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 3:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, that’s a bit of redemption for GlenX,, but Langkow got that started.

by Robert Cleave on Nov 21, 2009 3:10 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Glenner….I take it all back.

by LawrenceS on Nov 21, 2009 3:10 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

i was just about to say how i miss the langkow/borque PK line… well, this works alright…

by Outz on Nov 21, 2009 3:10 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Well that was a good time to come back from the toilet.

-Colin

by Colin S on Nov 21, 2009 3:10 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I’m sure I’ve used that line before, albeit in a different setting, Colin.

by Robert Cleave on Nov 21, 2009 3:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

There’s still 6 seconds of PK time left, mightwannan go back.

by R O on Nov 21, 2009 3:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I was debating staying there and not watching the 3rd!

-Colin

by Colin S on Nov 21, 2009 3:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Man if only some others would respond so quickly to our criticism

by LawrenceS on Nov 21, 2009 3:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

now you owe ME a coke

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 3:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

…at a Heat game, and it’s yours, but Kent is still walking to get his own beer after burning me.

by LawrenceS on Nov 21, 2009 3:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I forget now…but for some reason remember saying you’d be walking to get your own beer.

by LawrenceS on Nov 21, 2009 3:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I remember as well, but forget from what.

-Colin

by Colin S on Nov 21, 2009 3:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

moss is answering the bell it seems.

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 3:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Whatever happened to Denis Gauthier?

by LawrenceS on Nov 21, 2009 3:16 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Everyone finally realized he’s terrible.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 3:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And dirty.

-Colin

by Colin S on Nov 21, 2009 3:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

hahaha answering the bell

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 3:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Smart play by Joker.

-Colin

by Colin S on Nov 21, 2009 3:17 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

cause he knew he wouldn’t score ?

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 3:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He’s coming to terms with it.

-Colin

by Colin S on Nov 21, 2009 3:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, Iggy, that wasn’t very smart.

by Robert Cleave on Nov 21, 2009 3:18 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

there’s the run of calls against calgary i was anticipating.

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 3:18 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Rough shift for Jarome. Blows a scoring chance then takes another penalty.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 3:19 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Jarome is turning into Brett Hull… can still score without moving his feet at all.

by LawrenceS on Nov 21, 2009 3:19 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Shit, you say something bad about GlenX and he turns it ON.

by LawrenceS on Nov 21, 2009 3:21 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Dammit Cory…give me a heart attack

by LawrenceS on Nov 21, 2009 3:22 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Robbery.

-Colin

by Colin S on Nov 21, 2009 3:23 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

FUCK YEAH!

-Colin

by Colin S on Nov 21, 2009 3:23 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Well, that seals it. Nice hatty.

by Robert Cleave on Nov 21, 2009 3:23 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Like I said…just like Brett Hull

by LawrenceS on Nov 21, 2009 3:23 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

lundmark worked HARD on that shift.

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 3:24 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

infact, this game is a statement by lundy to stay a) with the big club, and b) on the top line.

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 3:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Lundmark made similar statements last year (especially the come from behind win in DET) and was still shunted to the farm. He’s a tweener for life I think.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 3:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

unsure if he can handle tough competition

by shep_ on Nov 21, 2009 3:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

he certainly deserve a chance, well, guess we’ll watch couple more games and will see.

by Outz on Nov 21, 2009 3:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

well he’s a step up from sjöström on the wing, and it leaves glenX to play with moss and boyd on the 3rd…..

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 3:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Great shift and nice bounce leads to the goal

Flames having a top notch 3rd period here.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 3:24 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

One shot for LA at EV so far.

by Robert Cleave on Nov 21, 2009 3:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah. LAK was playing for the tie from the drop of the puck and it bit them in the ass.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 3:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You mean playing a 1-4 or 0-5 forecheck isn’t a winning approach?

by Robert Cleave on Nov 21, 2009 3:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hoping the players took ownership of their play here.

-Colin

by Colin S on Nov 21, 2009 3:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Swwweeeet, nice rebound.

by Outz on Nov 21, 2009 3:24 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

“Dangerously wide” when you think about it…it’s hilarious.

by LawrenceS on Nov 21, 2009 3:26 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

that shot remind me of joker’s shot in the first. Bahahahaha

by Outz on Nov 21, 2009 3:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Moss has looked solid this game. Not amazing, but capable at both ends.

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 3:26 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

yes, better skating from moss

by shep_ on Nov 21, 2009 3:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i wonder if he’s been playing hurt, and is starting to come out of it.

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 3:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

yes, wasnt there an lower body thing?

by shep_ on Nov 21, 2009 3:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

he missed some games early on, i think….. ?

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 3:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think he had a bad shoulder and a bad foot at the same time.

by Robert Cleave on Nov 21, 2009 3:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That uncharacteristically good shiftby the top line brought to you by good coaching.

Seriously. Sutter got the top guns out vs. Richardson and Simmonds, result is good.

This is in no way slagging Iginla and co, they should dominatelesser opposition. Still, we should keep it real.

by R O on Nov 21, 2009 3:29 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I agree. It also helps that the top line is actually able to take advantage of the mis-match (unlike earlier in the year).

by Kent Wilson on Nov 21, 2009 3:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

With that goal, Iggy is now tied with OV and Gaborik for 2nd in goals. However Ovechkin is playing Toskalol and the Leafs tonight, so we’ll see how long that lasts.

by ArikJames on Nov 21, 2009 3:30 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I dunno, sometimes those really slow bad goalie just get hit with the puck. It’ll either be 8 shots 5 goals or 8 shots, no goals and Toskala won’t have seen anything till the video review.

by LawrenceS on Nov 21, 2009 3:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

shouldn’t that be toskalol and the laffs ?

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 3:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I feel like laffs is overdone, however Toskalol never gets old. Or good.

by ArikJames on Nov 21, 2009 3:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i’m just sayin’ that you might as well go for both if you’re gonna go for one.

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 3:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

terry murray = rainman

by shep_ on Nov 21, 2009 3:31 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Why in the name of decency do theey wait until the game is out of hand before playing well on the PP?

by R O on Nov 21, 2009 3:32 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

No pressure. That’s why can score there.

by Robert Cleave on Nov 21, 2009 3:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow. Reggie scores!…err….Moss.

by LawrenceS on Nov 21, 2009 3:34 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Nice. Not entirely, but nice nonetheless.

by LawrenceS on Nov 21, 2009 3:35 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

“captained by captain jarome iginla”

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 3:37 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Not too bad. LA laid off, and I’m not sure why, but it’s still good.

by Robert Cleave on Nov 21, 2009 3:37 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Corsi.

Flames +7, so +11 in the third, which considering they were leading the last half of the third, is good stuff.

EV shots 23-21 CGY, 10-2 in the third.

by Robert Cleave on Nov 21, 2009 3:40 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

The PK was much better tonight, even if the SHG doesn’t go in. They were able to clear the zone effectiely and forechecked like demons. Good stuff.

THe EV effort didn’t really surface til the third but as Robert notes, it was there.

The PP remains a work in progress. Goddamn, I thought they got it right in the beginning of the sason.

by R O on Nov 21, 2009 3:44 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

The PP is stagnant. I can accept pucks not going in on occasion, but you still need to do the right thing, and the right thing is moving yourselves and the puck. The only time it really happened was the 5 v 3.

by Robert Cleave on Nov 21, 2009 3:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, and the only guy who did move was Bouwmeester. Damn, the guy’s a beast, and the others need to pay attention.

by R O on Nov 21, 2009 3:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

this dude really wants to say “joe baymeester.” he’s almost done it twice.

by walkinvisible on Nov 21, 2009 3:47 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

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