Flames versus Blackhawks Gamethread
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 5:47 PM PST
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Chicago Blackhawks at Calgary Flames, Nov 19, 2009 6:30 PM PST
If the Flames were a 9 year old girl, the 'Hawks would be the drooling monster under the bed. Chicago swept the season series last year, dismissed Calgary in the first round in the play-offs, treat Jarome Iginla like a prison bitch and created the unfortunate "the 5 goal lead is the most dangerous one in hockey" meme by handing the Flames perhaps their most embarrassing defeat in recent memory.
So, yeah...forgive me if I'm not too stoked about Calgary's chances tonight.
- It's not just that CHI has the Flames number. They are legitimately one of the best clubs in the league. And Marian Hossa hasn't skated a single game for them yet.
- At some point, Olli Jokinen is going to score some goals. It's bound to happen, because it's almost impossible to play as much as he does with the players he does and not have a few pucks bounce in. Hell, Bertuzzi did it the first 15 games or so last season. However, in direct contrast Jokinen's claim below, his lack of production is just complaint amongst a laundry list I have about his performance thus far. Unless he starts doing other things right, I'll likely continue to bemoan his play...even if his SH% bounces back up to career norms.
- Who gets the heavy lifting tonight? Jarome went back to seeing the toughs last game and he drowned against Stastny/Wolski. I can't imagine the battle going much better against the likes of Toews and Kane. Of course, Quenneville might just prefer matching Madden with Jarome, so it may not be an issue. Of course, given his performance against the Hawks the last year or so, it may not matter.
Let the bitter invectives flow!
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If the Flames were a 9 year old girl, the ’Hawks would be the drooling monster under the bed.
I laughed.
-Colin
by Colin S on Nov 19, 2009 6:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Also, I am fearful of tonight’s game.
-Colin
by Colin S on Nov 19, 2009 6:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
crap, sh*t, f^&*K, damn, hell…
can swearing be like shooting percentage? If I have a high rate now, will it return to normal levels during the game….meaning we win right?
please
by LawrenceS on Nov 19, 2009 6:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Game lines are holding pretty steady – the Flames are a narrow favorite. Which surpises the hell out of me (even with Robert’s thing about the Chicago road record).
Still, I don’t have money riding on this game, and the people who do think that the Flames and Hawks are, for all intents and purposes, even.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 6:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I see the Leafs drew the short straw and were forced to win tonight.
by Resolute on Nov 19, 2009 6:35 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
that’s sad, with a minute and 30 left, i thought the leafs were gonna finish it and move on to the flames game, then boom, there goes overtime.
by Outz on Nov 19, 2009 6:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This TOR-CAR game is so high-scoring, couldn’t they do us Flames fans a favor and score before the shootout?
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 6:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
OK so the FAN makes it seem like the Flames are applying early pressure. Also, attempted shots are 5-0 in CGY’s favor so far.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 6:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I’ll assume they were all scoring chances…..
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 6:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Of course, the Flames are as opportunistic as the Avs.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 6:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like the Calgary PP has had a couple chances but has had a couple attempts at gaining the zone thwarted.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 6:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much. One breakdown so far, but otherwise we are controlling the play… At least until Pardy’s penalty.
by Resolute on Nov 19, 2009 6:54 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
This TOR game is almost over! Almost over!!!
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 6:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yay for the futility of Toronto shooters! Now fuck, switch it the fuck over, save the pleasantries for someone whocares.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 6:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
17 games without a legitimate win for Carolina though.
by Resolute on Nov 19, 2009 6:58 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
And we come back in enough time to see the Flames take a penalty (I think). Oh good, now an ad.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 6:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Could be icing too? I dunno, I was a bit scrambly there.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 6:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What the? Why the hell is the Boyd line out against Toews and Kane?
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 6:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
And just like on Tuesday, we have too many idiots fishing for pucks rather than take bodies. Easy goal for Chicago. Betting Pardy is eating popcorn next game too.
by Resolute on Nov 19, 2009 6:56 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
That Chicago forecheck is way aggressive. Obviously if you’re not thinking then you won’t be able to break it, but we just gained the zone pretty easily on that shift.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 6:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
One hell of a dumpin by Jokinen. That’s the kind of play that helps you win games.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 7:00 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
It’s the same shit every time with Chicago. They get some garbage goal against us and then we lose our composure. It’s so flipping frustrating!
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by KingJafi on Nov 19, 2009 7:00 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Jokinen with 2 shots on one shift? Say it aint so…
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 7:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Iginla was pretty obviously in possession there.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 7:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Although if their standard is “gotta have stick in shooting position” it didn’t happen. What is the standard in that case?
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 7:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Jarome “intended” to have a break-away?
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 7:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That should have been a penalty shot.
by Resolute on Nov 19, 2009 7:07 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, although with Iginla’s breakaway skills I might take the powerplay…
-Colin
by Colin S on Nov 19, 2009 7:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Brutal puck retrieval on the dump ins.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 7:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
This PP is just awful. Just fucking awful. That bullshit penalty-instead-of-PS on Iginla is gonna cost us.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 7:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Jesus Christ. What a terrible goddamn effort by both units.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 7:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
This team is a tucking joke on the pp. Just making it easy for them.
by Resolute on Nov 19, 2009 7:10 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
What a ridiculous call on Bourque though.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 7:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
It has the vibe of being “one of those nights.”
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 7:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Hawks are downright Red Wingian in their obstruction and interference tonight.
by Resolute on Nov 19, 2009 7:12 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I agree. Picks and subtle interference all over the ice.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 7:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Bourque got in the way out of the box there :(
-Colin
by Colin S on Nov 19, 2009 7:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Damn, bad luck that Iginla was on the left wing there.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 7:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Which? On the 2-on-1? I don’t think he has a great shot there. But the pass wasn’t good.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 7:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He took himself out of the play by drifting too far left…making the pass the only play available.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 7:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess… I am more inclined to agree with Colin S that Bourque got in the way.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 7:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
At least some of you get to watch the game on TSN and not on this Chicago channel. I gotta listen to Eddie O slob on these guys like they’re the greatest thing lace up skates.
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by KingJafi on Nov 19, 2009 7:13 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Nice sequence by Phanuef on Toews there.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 7:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
From what I saw, chances were 6-2 in favor of the Hawks. Course, I missed the first half of the period so…
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 7:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Ice is pretty oviously tilted towards the Chicago end of the rink at EV, which makes me very happy.
They need a hole ripped into them regarding the PP though.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 7:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
No kidding. Puck retrieval seems like a trivial part of the man advantage, but it becomes essential when you can’t fucking do it.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 7:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Boy, it must chap Keenan’s ass that Kipper is playing lights out right now. If Kipper had even remotely this kind of October/November last year, odds on Keenan still has his job.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 7:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Don’t forget March…
Yeah, at this point the Keenan Flames were probably better than the Sutter Flames. No saying if Calgary will start putting things together going forward, but if they don’t, Keenan basically got the shaft.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 7:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think of them as more the Playfair Flames to be honest. Wasn’t he the one who organized all of this “systems play” at EV? Or so the papers say, who knows, they are lying bastards anyway.
But Keenan was a generally good bench manager, Sutter is probably in the same mold. I think Playfair needs to come back though.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 7:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Looks just like the playoffs -
Hawks score and the Flames deflate faster than Oprah’s whoopee cushion
by Bonvie5ForFighting on Nov 19, 2009 7:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I don’t see it. Flames tilted the ice at EV before, and after the goal.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 7:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. Calgary was just shite on the PP.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 7:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Woo! There’s the Jokinen shot we’ve been waiting 20 games for.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 7:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I’ll take it, but those transition chances don’t come very often on the PP. They have to be better still on the next PP.
On the positive side though – our soft minute scorer just scored on his soft minute!!!! :-D
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 7:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
At least we have McGrattan to dete….wait.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 7:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
lets go with the corsi 1st period
by Dustin Timberlake on Nov 19, 2009 7:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
How is that not coincidental? Do you really think this is the time to be sending som sort of “asinine” message?
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 7:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Damn, bad focus on that PK clear.
Not taht I think this goal is deserved anyway -it’s a stupid penalty.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 7:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Nystrom has a clear opportunity to clear the puck…backhands it directly to the hawk defender.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 7:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
To me, the backhand is the bad decision there. Unbelievable, he has so much space and time to go to his forehand and make sure it goes out.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 7:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ten-bell chance by Conroy there. Damn, one of thsoe nights.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 7:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Nice play by Glencross on that one.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 7:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ummm…how the hell does Kane get two unobstructed shots from there??
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 7:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
That my friends was your exemplary Weak ass backhand attempt.
by LawrenceS on Nov 19, 2009 7:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Forwards are all committed to the backcheck tonight. Sigh, they should play like this every night.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 7:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I bet you this is going to be a Chicago PP. That’s how it’s going tonight.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 7:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Fraser is the odd man out when Hossa is back
by Bonvie5ForFighting on Nov 19, 2009 7:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I don’t mean to be rude, but there is another SBN blog dedicated to the Chicago Blackhawks. It even appears that you are a member of that blog. This sort of comment is best posted on that blog.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 7:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Did Nystrom actually win that fight?
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 7:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure Fraser has won a fight in his career so far
by Matthew Dirt on Nov 19, 2009 7:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough. Neither has Nystrom (till tonight).
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 7:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
so that was the exact opposite of an unstoppable force meeting an immovable object?
by Matthew Dirt on Nov 19, 2009 7:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Alright, let’s see what adjustments Sutter has dictated.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 7:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Unbelievably bad in gaining the zone tongiht.
And Sutter is really conservative, not even Keenan (who knew nothing about PPs) dared use Regehr on it.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 7:45 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I think that has to do with the PP ending more than anything.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 7:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Damn, that replay of Bouwmeester’s chance is something else.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 7:47 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Nothing more pathetic than a troll.
by Resolute on Nov 19, 2009 7:52 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Chicago with horseshoes up their ass. Flames doing practically everything right tonight on EV.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 7:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
That’s on Jarome. Muffs the shot resulting in the 2on1 and then takes nobody on the backcheck.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 7:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
That was a team effort. Iggy was the 42nd pass. Puck should have been on net long before.
by Resolute on Nov 19, 2009 7:54 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
These guys absolutely get their way with us. They an do whatever they want to us.
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by KingJafi on Nov 19, 2009 7:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Dawes with a selfish penalty, then we get too cute with the puck. Two GA’s, and that’s game. Self-inflicted stupidity.
by Resolute on Nov 19, 2009 7:50 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
These pricks play with so much confidence against the Flames, its almost effortless.
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by KingJafi on Nov 19, 2009 7:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Flames have had a bunch of 10 bell chances in this period that they haven’t buried.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 7:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
On top of spending a disproportionate amount of time in the Hawks zone.
Well, not every good effort will lead to results, but this is a hell of a good effort.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 7:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
just terrible luck, chances after chances (good one too), just ain’t goin’ in..
by Outz on Nov 19, 2009 7:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
For once, can I see a comeback against the guys and an actualy victory??
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by KingJafi on Nov 19, 2009 7:54 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I think they have given up now.
-Colin
by Colin S on Nov 19, 2009 7:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why do they make these brutal mistakes against Chicago all the time ?
by Bonvie5ForFighting on Nov 19, 2009 7:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Please go back to your own blog if you have nothing worthwhile to contribute.
by Resolute on Nov 19, 2009 7:59 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha…and yet another brain dead change leading to a goal against.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 7:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Now the Flames are collapsing.
Comon boys. You were doing everything right.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 7:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
3 and 28 get hung out to dry again by someone else’s retarded decision to change.
by Resolute on Nov 19, 2009 7:56 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Seriously, WHAT...THE...FUCK??
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by KingJafi on Nov 19, 2009 7:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Flames team prone to giving up goals in clumps like this.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 7:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
No no no!!!! They’re trying the asinine 60-foot passes again!!!!
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 8:00 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
They’re also skating at about half speed.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 8:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And still are the better team, but for some stupid mental mistakes.
At least my nachos grande were excellent.
by Resolute on Nov 19, 2009 8:04 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
How many too many men penalties do we have this year?
-Colin
by Colin S on Nov 19, 2009 8:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Well, Flames are pressing pretty well, but they can’t seem to hit the net or get their sticks on the puck in scoring areas.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 8:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
How did the Flames come back against the Red Wings last season? Obviously with a good measure of luck, but also by keeping on keeping on with those good EV habits – short passes, controlled breakouts, commitment to backcheck, defensive zone awareness.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 8:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Actually, it wasn’t all that lucky. They beat the shit out of the Wings at ES in that game.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 8:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah, I meant regarding the shot% in the third. They got something like 3 goals on 20 shots in the third, right? That won’t happen all the time, probably wont’ happen tonight.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 8:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Betcha George Johnson was in the washroom during that fight.
by Resolute on Nov 19, 2009 8:07 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
of course, 5 on 3….
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by KingJafi on Nov 19, 2009 8:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
if you’re gonna wear a visor, you gotta remember about it when you scrap. STUPID penalty by dion.
by walkinvisible on Nov 19, 2009 8:08 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Who was that way off in the corner on their belly?
-Colin
by Colin S on Nov 19, 2009 8:08 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Bleh, Jbo. Lost his edge I guess.
-Colin
by Colin S on Nov 19, 2009 8:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I WAS ABOUT TO CALL IT
KANE GOAL…BUT I DIDNT WANT TO JINX IT
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by KingJafi on Nov 19, 2009 8:08 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
And the refs give the Hawks a free goal by giving Phaneuf am extra two for Seabrook’s cheap, dirty play.
by Resolute on Nov 19, 2009 8:08 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
This game is going to get real ugly.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 8:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
They got 9 or 10 on the Oilers last year didn’t they? It could happen tonight.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 19, 2009 8:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry Fellas -
I meant no disrespect or ill will – Im a fan of the game and would be talking shit about the Hawks if the game was going the other way
by Bonvie5ForFighting on Nov 19, 2009 8:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, no worries. Folks are pretty sensitive about the Hawks around here. Pretty sick of getting humiliated by them.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 8:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
what?
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by KingJafi on Nov 19, 2009 8:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
WHAT
THE
FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by KingJafi on Nov 19, 2009 8:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
This is just bullshit. Seriously. Bad luck and terrible officiating, two games in a row, sick of this shit. And the Flames are going to take a shit-kicking on talk radio, which is just going to annoy me tomorrow morning.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 8:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
you cannot blame that period on officiating, sorry.
by walkinvisible on Nov 19, 2009 8:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What do I blame it on then? The Flames are spending way more time in the Hawks zone at EV, getting some 50-50 chances, and the Hawks are up by 5?
What is that? Clutch? I find it hard to believe. Especially when luck plays such a big role in this game. And officiating is part of that bad luck.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 8:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Part of it. Flames have shot pucks wide and Huet has played well. Hawks, on the other hand, have buried their chances.
One of those nights. They happen, especially against great teams.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 8:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We playing perimeter hockey in the hawks zone, yeah, we got possession but can’t do anything
Everyone (iggy and Gio in particular) are slow on the trigger, they get a pass and wait and wait to take the shot… it’s like they aren’t confident or are waiting for Huet to get out of position or something, and instead, it gets blocked
by d_p_h on Nov 19, 2009 8:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Flames might as well stay in the dressing room.
Time to give Kipper a mercy pull.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 8:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I find it hard to believe he returns.
-Colin
by Colin S on Nov 19, 2009 8:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe olli can score 5 more !!! hahaha eff….
by walkinvisible on Nov 19, 2009 8:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Ma that two fre goals. The hawks didn’t earn this, it was given to them on a silver platter.
by Resolute on Nov 19, 2009 8:11 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Flames outchanced 12-6 in that period.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 8:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
This was the total, right? I find it hard to believe we got outchanced 2-1 at EV alone, and the Hawks PP was fucking lethal. Not that it deserved as many chances as it got.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 8:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
kipper wasn’t great, but the team was falling apart in front of him.
by walkinvisible on Nov 19, 2009 8:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Brent Sutter looks mad. Well, I guess he ought to be.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 8:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
You know what, i dont ever want to watch a Hawks Flames game again. It just makes me a real nasty person and absolutely ruins my night.
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by KingJafi on Nov 19, 2009 8:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
At least this one wasn’t a PPV, like they usually are. Nothing worse than paying $15 to watch the Flames bend over.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 8:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I really can’t believe these guys do whatever they want against us. Its like we tie the game to start the 2nd and then they drop 5 goals. What is going on here? How is this possible??
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by KingJafi on Nov 19, 2009 8:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I still don’t know how Phaneuf got the extra two there, but that is par for the course. We get shit on even by the refs when playing the Hawks. I’m hanging this all on Dawes. He took a stupid, selfish penalty on a clean hit and destroyed our momentum on top of costing a goal. Hat tip to Huet for that save too.
by Resolute on Nov 19, 2009 8:17 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Sutter needs to send a message – bench a few and shorten the bench. YES I’m dreaming!!
by Calgarian in SJ on Nov 19, 2009 8:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
might as well —-this is a writeoff
by walkinvisible on Nov 19, 2009 8:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
cant WAIT to hear what keenan has to say
by walkinvisible on Nov 19, 2009 8:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Flames third jersey should be a black, leather S&M ensemble…and they should wear it only when playing the Hawks…
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 8:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Lol. Thank you for making me laugh tonight.
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by KingJafi on Nov 19, 2009 8:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My summary of that period (missed #1, I was riding my bike in the garage… gotta stay fit for skiing..)
-We won the zone / posession battle.
-Got bad luck early with some big saves (Huet channeling his euro-soccer roots? that woulda been a hell of a punch out for a soccer goalie)
-We took dumb penalties, got lazy on changes, and paid for it on the scoreboard
-We lost our composure.
by d_p_h on Nov 19, 2009 8:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
That’s a positive way to put it. The retaliation penalties just aren’t helpful.
But the Flames haven’t been playing very well even in their wins this season. Add to that that the Blackhawks have their number. Well, the rout ain’t surprising.
by tsukemonoki on Nov 19, 2009 8:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We lose our composure every game against these chumps.
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by KingJafi on Nov 19, 2009 8:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i can’t remember the last time the flames got boo’d in the ’dome.
by walkinvisible on Nov 19, 2009 8:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Last time they played the Hawks, probably.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 8:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This game is making me nervous. It has all the makings of a “turning-point” game a la the SJ game last season. Except I generally like the game the Flames are playing at EV (it’s not perfect but them’s the breaks) and I’m afraid that if Sutter changes this up that he’s going to ruin the start of a good thing.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 8:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Really? Im of the opposite opinion. I think the Flames have been middling at best and that a game like this was inevitable against a good opponent.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 8:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with Kent for sure. They’ve been bailed out by Kipper in their wins. They have not been outplaying their opponent.
by tsukemonoki on Nov 19, 2009 8:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the Flames have been middling at best
I was talking about tonight (and the previous game too). I think the ice is even more tilted tonight than against the Avs on Tuesday, and considering who we’re playing tonight and whta they’ve been doing this season, that’s saying something.
But the special teams are an unmitigated disaster.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 8:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough. On the whole, though, the Flames have looked mighty average to me. I think their record is deceptive. A game like this happens to everyone, but the percentages were bound to kick the Flames in the teeth at some point.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 8:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sure, fair enough. I guess it’s just frustration because a.) it’s Chicago, and b.) we’re finally putting the boots to a contender and not getting rewarded for it.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 8:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it depends…
We are having good rounds of possession in the O zone, which is nice for a change, but we aren’t getting anything from it because we seem content to play on the perimeter, and our top guys aren’t pulling the trigger…
A lot of our bad habits (standing around fishing pucks and slow changes) are still around, and tonight we are getting burned by them. I don’t think they are any worse than most of our games this year. We just aren’t catching the good breaks for a change…
So: positive, we are doing more O possession
Negative: everything else is the same and we are getting burned by it tonight for a change.
So you can watch and see the possession and see progress and look at bad luck compared to our luck up to this point, or you can see all the problems still around and a reversion to the mean.
by d_p_h on Nov 19, 2009 8:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Going to go do something that will make me less mad!
-Colin
by Colin S on Nov 19, 2009 8:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
good idea
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by KingJafi on Nov 19, 2009 8:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Flames just don’t play great in the Dome … not like in the old days. Infuriating to see other team come into Calgary and manhandle the Flames …. without the Flames setting the tone, instead relying on retaliation penalties to kill any momentum.
by Calgarian in SJ on Nov 19, 2009 8:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Final score?
Predictions on final score going into third?
by tsukemonoki on Nov 19, 2009 8:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
any other team would make this competitive. flames will ultimately lose 9-2. yes, we lost to cristobal huet. and we used to think it was khabi…
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by KingJafi on Nov 19, 2009 8:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I have more faith in Kipper. As long as they get more bad penalties…
by tsukemonoki on Nov 19, 2009 8:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
McBackup's in
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by KingJafi on Nov 19, 2009 8:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I mean’t not getmore bad penalties
by tsukemonoki on Nov 19, 2009 8:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This game completely reminds me of Game 5 in the playoffs last year. Every reason to win and we lay a big fat f’ing turd.
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by KingJafi on Nov 19, 2009 8:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Sutter will eat his words… about the lack of passion.
by tsukemonoki on Nov 19, 2009 8:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the Sutters have a thing for not admitting to making mistakes
by Calgarian in SJ on Nov 19, 2009 8:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If I recall game 5 was a horrible showing by the Flames. This reminds me more of game 6 – an excellent effort in the aggregate, but getting bent over by the hockey gods.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 8:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes…I was about to correct myself…Game 6.
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by KingJafi on Nov 19, 2009 8:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Kinda like how the Wild feel against us.
by Resolute on Nov 19, 2009 8:30 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Used to feel against us.
Everyone bends those guys over now.
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by KingJafi on Nov 19, 2009 8:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
Hmm… +10 is a “good” thing right?
by tsukemonoki on Nov 19, 2009 8:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. Means the Flames have spent more time in the Hawks zone at even strength. Too bad they’ve been garbage on the special teams.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 8:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I bet we’d have a negative corsi on our PP tonight… which is just f*cked
by d_p_h on Nov 19, 2009 8:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I become less convinced of the value of Corsi with each passing game.
by Resolute on Nov 19, 2009 8:31 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Corsi
Doesn’t take into account what happens during special teams.
by tsukemonoki on Nov 19, 2009 8:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m aware of that. By definition, it does not paint a complete picture of a game.
by Resolute on Nov 19, 2009 8:35 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Of course. No single metric does.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 8:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You need to give it more games. Luck is huge in this game – not everything can be reduced to confidence or clutch or laziness.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 8:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s an ES stat…so it’s not too useful when the club goes 1-5 on the PK.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 8:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The jump in the Chicago PP/Flames PK ranks is scary. Not that I find how the special teams are rated very useful, but still.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 8:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Good job posting the Corsi there, bud. Some telling stats right there. Look at the Jokinen figures. Stunning. Set up the formula in the form of a double integral, bounded by 12 and 21, the jersey numbers he has worn in the NHL. Take the cubic root of his Corsi, divide by the speed of light in a vacuum, subtract it by the mass of two moles of iridium, raise that to the power of e, multiply it by Olli’s EVSH%/60 in Novembers, and add the altitude correction factor in Calgary. You will find the likelihood of Jokinen scoring a shorthanded goal in the first 10 minutes of the 35th game of the season. It aint pretty. Yuck. Replace it with Boyd’s numbers.You got yourself a date with Lord Stanley right there. Now that’s some math you can show your teachers.
by Dustin Timberlake on Nov 19, 2009 8:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Kipper out?
Why put McE in? I don’t think Kipper had much he could do about some of those goals, esp. the last two.
by tsukemonoki on Nov 19, 2009 8:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Just giving McE some work.
by Resolute on Nov 19, 2009 8:33 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Kipper deserves to be taken out of this game. Not fair to continue letting these dipsticks pound him from behind over and over. Now the rest of the squad…have at them Hawks.
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by KingJafi on Nov 19, 2009 8:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought he shoulda had that breakaway that sarich slid to block the pass…
Other than that, not his fault at all.
by d_p_h on Nov 19, 2009 8:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
One positive is that the Hawks are still playing an agressive forecheck by the looks of it. So there’s hope for a couple goals.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 8:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
of course, as if these guys would ever take their foot off the accelarator against us. part of the reason they piss me off so much. cause they’re so damn arrogant AND they get away with it!!
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by KingJafi on Nov 19, 2009 8:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s like the flames have never been introduced to this little black rubber disk..
I heard in his Junior days Brent used to hit a point where he’d just get pissed off and make all the players play with wood sticks… maybe that’s what we need, a little return to the old school.
by d_p_h on Nov 19, 2009 8:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
That would be awesome. Seriously, getting disrespected by the same team over and over is completely unacceptable.
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by KingJafi on Nov 19, 2009 8:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I have a feeling tomorrow’s practice is going to be nasty in LA.
by tsukemonoki on Nov 19, 2009 8:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Ironically, Jokinen is having his best game of the season.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 8:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Of course he is. This just like all those nights in Florida. He feels right at home.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 19, 2009 8:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hahahaha, What a joker.
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by KingJafi on Nov 19, 2009 8:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Can we go back to him playing like extra special sh*t?
if that means we win, I’ll take a 5 mil hit for undeserved wins
by d_p_h on Nov 19, 2009 8:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Third period hat trick, it will be like the game against Toronto.
-Colin
by Colin S on Nov 19, 2009 8:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
pardy looked awfully bored on that play
by walkinvisible on Nov 19, 2009 8:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
So, do you think the Flames forget that they aren’t playing in white at home?
That pass that Joker threw was beautiful, right to a streaking white shirt after a spectacular strip…
by d_p_h on Nov 19, 2009 8:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
if someone (coach or player) called dion selfish after the last game, i wonder what they’ll call him after this one ??
by walkinvisible on Nov 19, 2009 8:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Bfug is the worst out of all of them. He really relishes kicking the shit out of us.
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by KingJafi on Nov 19, 2009 8:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
that dude needs to get laid out seriously
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by KingJafi on Nov 19, 2009 8:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i would love it if byfug wore the flaming C. since he doesn’t, i hate him.
by walkinvisible on Nov 19, 2009 8:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I know this has been beat to death … I just have to say it …..
WHY IS MCGRATTAN ON THE FLAMES. I just don’t get it.
by Calgarian in SJ on Nov 19, 2009 8:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
lazy play by iggy to not chase that puck and try and strip it..
by d_p_h on Nov 19, 2009 8:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Lazy Iginla?
Sometimes he does take breaks.
by tsukemonoki on Nov 19, 2009 8:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Aside from his one assist, Jarome has been pretty bad tonight.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 8:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
is he seriously talking trash right now?
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by KingJafi on Nov 19, 2009 8:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You dont want Byuff -
This is one of maybe 5 games where he has played like he gave a shit. If it werent for the injuries, Quennville would have put him up in the pressbox for 3 straight like he did last year. We all thought that he “got it” after the playoffs last year, but he has come out floating for the most part this season
by Bonvie5ForFighting on Nov 19, 2009 8:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
yeah the guy only gets up for games against the Flames because we make it so easy for him to dominate
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by KingJafi on Nov 19, 2009 8:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
IF that’s anyone other than REggie, I think that might go in
by d_p_h on Nov 19, 2009 8:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
The Hawks are playing more sane hockey now. I couldn’t believe they were sending in two forecheckers against uncontested possession earlier in the period.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 8:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Why not eh?
Did you record this game Kent? I can’t be the only one who thought the Flames were tilting the ice in the first two periods… can I?
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 8:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No, you're not the only one
I watched up ‘til it was 4-1 and didn’t even see what led to the breakaway. But the Flames were by far the better team up to that point. I turned it off at 4-1 because I knew that a) it was going to get ugly, b) this was probably due to the Flames (losing a game they shoudn’t). But if they play like that, more than the first 15 games, they’ll be fine. Even against Chicago.
by maimster on Nov 20, 2009 5:26 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Gio’s spent a bunch of time up pretty far in the O zone
too bad it’s not mattering
by d_p_h on Nov 19, 2009 8:45 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Corsi numbers now?
Probably going to be huge Corsi numbers now. Somehow, it should be normalized by whether you’re behind or ahead in the game.
by tsukemonoki on Nov 19, 2009 8:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I take that back… now that I hear the shot count.
by tsukemonoki on Nov 19, 2009 8:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They’re moot when the game is this far out of hand. Flames will put up a big number, but the possession will be behind a 5 goal deficit, meaning the Hawks will be happy to sit bakc and allow the Flames to spin their wheels.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 8:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Shots 13 minutes in are 3-1 for us. They aren’t even trying while we can’t do anything right.
by Resolute on Nov 19, 2009 8:46 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Hawks trapping from about 5 minutes in. A low shot count and lots of neutral zone play will tend to happen.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 8:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Better away
Maybe they should make the Flames stay in Hotels when they play at home.
by tsukemonoki on Nov 19, 2009 8:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Little fact that just makes everything feel that much better: Hawks match their best goal output of the season. Last time they had 6 goals, against the Flames in October. Talk about getting owned.
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by KingJafi on Nov 19, 2009 8:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
13 goals in 2 games and counting….
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by KingJafi on Nov 19, 2009 8:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
one more goal
you called 7-2… so 1 more goal.
by tsukemonoki on Nov 19, 2009 8:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
OWNED
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by KingJafi on Nov 19, 2009 8:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Next game vs. Hawks?
When and where is the next game vs. the Blackhawks?
by tsukemonoki on Nov 19, 2009 8:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
no idea…but the final score will be 8-3 Hawks
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by KingJafi on Nov 19, 2009 8:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well whatever. Part of me hopes they get the lashings, if only so they can fix the damn special teams. That part of their game I was completely unimpressed by.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 8:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know about lashings or anything. Just one of those nights where every quality chance goes in (while none of yours do).
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 8:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So you would say that we haven’t been outplayed. Just unlucky?
by tsukemonoki on Nov 19, 2009 8:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
At even strength – without a doubt. We owned the puck 5 on 5.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 8:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
“luck” is probably the wrong word…but the Flames were probably better than the results suggest – at 5on5 at least. They were dreadful on special teams.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 8:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the problem is that that things that burned them tonight, should, by all rights, burn them most nights this season…
So, I can’t buy the idea that this is just one of those games…
Our top guys don’t want to do the work required… and until that changes…
by d_p_h on Nov 19, 2009 8:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes. I think that’s right. I’ve often seen games just hanging around, not digging hard. Passing like crap.
by tsukemonoki on Nov 19, 2009 8:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If you want to think of that way, then you might say we are paying the devil his dues. We diddn’t deserve some of those early wins, but surely this game we deserved better than zero goals on EV. Context considered (esp. the quality of the opposition) this was probably the best EV game played thus far.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 8:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Possession only,
We still can’t get to scoring positions,
We still take bad shots right into shins, chests, arms, sticks, etc
Our leaders still play on the fringe,
We still give up bad line change odd man rushes
by d_p_h on Nov 19, 2009 9:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The last point, I agree with. Man that was a horrid change.
I thought Iginla and Jokinen played less of a perimeter game today though, esp. in the first when they looked dangerous. I think Kent could confirm this, he was counting scoring chances for the last half of the first.
And possession is key, it drives everything imo. Of course I might be the only one tonight who is willing to die on this hill, but that’s what I’m going to do.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 9:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Jokinen and Iginla were high event tonight, which I guess is slightly better than getting your head kicked in.
Langkow’s line did nothing. Of course, Bourque was out for the latter half of the game.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 9:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He only played 9:15. So probably got hurt by that hit.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 9:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Fuckin’ hell.
It sucks that I’m pissed about losing a sub-$2M player but there it is.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 9:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah…if he’s out of the line-up, it’s a massive, massive blow to this team.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 9:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i was actually unimpressed by the fact we got owned by Chicago for the 10th straight game
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by KingJafi on Nov 19, 2009 8:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well it’s been that kind of night. Huet gives up a juicy rebound and it goes all the way out the zone.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 8:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
i would have given the “bronx cheer” too
by walkinvisible on Nov 19, 2009 8:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Well, that was as pleasant as showering in prison.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 8:59 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Post-game comments
Can’t wait to hear the post-game comments by Sutter.
by tsukemonoki on Nov 19, 2009 9:00 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Thursday, January 21st
The next time we can have another pleasant evening like this one.
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by KingJafi on Nov 19, 2009 9:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully I’ll be too ill to watch.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 9:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Neeed to plan to do something else.
by tsukemonoki on Nov 19, 2009 9:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t have a chance to see the whole thing, but being outchanced 8-5 at EV in the first two periods doesn’t sound like a team that was dominating, at least to me.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 19, 2009 9:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, damn, that count is surprising. Maybe my perception was off? Wishful thinking?
I dunno.
Damn this game.
by R O on Nov 19, 2009 9:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Keep in mind, I missed the first 10 minutes of the game during which the Flames apparently had a number of good chances.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 9:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe that gets them to even for those two periods. I still worry about where the goals are going to come from.. The shooting has started to normalize, and they’ve scored 19 goals in regulation over the last 10 games, with 5 coming against a Leaf team that has no clue in its own end. I just don’t know…
by Robert Cleave on Nov 19, 2009 9:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The first 20 games has me again wondering what the value of investing so much money in the back end is. The shots on net are still really high and there doesn’t seem to be any appreciable improvement defense wise (aside from Kipper playing better). And with Jokinen struggling, the club dosn’t seem to have the horses to push the puck forward consistently.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 9:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
How long have we been talking about rebalancing the payroll from the D to the forward spots? I hope we don’t end up sounding like poor Lowetide, forever complaining about an unbalanced roster. Sutter’s fixed a few things lately, but they aren’t good enough up front, at least to my eye.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 19, 2009 9:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, too many Indians and not enough Chiefs… or to change from a un-PC colloquialism to hockey terms: Too many shooters not enough playmakers. I’d kill for a Savard right now, heck I’d wound for a Tanguay right now.
Really though we’re playing a guy we picked up on waivers in one slot on the top six and have a revolving door of quality grinders on another while carrying 8 defensemen (including Kronwall). Something ought to give pretty quick.
by Parallex on Nov 20, 2009 12:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It probably wouldn’t matter as much if Jokinen was actually a $5m center.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 20, 2009 7:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I would propose that if the Flames had a guy with top six playmaking skills Jokinen would look more like a $5m center.
I also really want them to stop the revolving door of LW’ers with those two None of Moss, Glencross, Nystrom, or Sjostrom look at all comfortable. I’d rather they slot Boyd into the LW slot, let Conroy center the 3rd line and reunite Prustrom and just stick with it for a while.
by Parallex on Nov 20, 2009 8:04 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Flames played a good amount in the offensive zone at ES, but they had a metric ton of chances at chances: pucks skipping over sticks in scoring areas, shots blocked, missed centering passes.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 19, 2009 9:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Good job posting the Corsi there, bud. Some telling stats right there. Look at the Jokinen figures. Stunning. Set up the formula in the form of a double integral, bounded by 12 and 21, the jersey numbers he has worn in the NHL. Take the cubic root of his Corsi, divide by the speed of light in a vacuum, subtract it by the mass of two moles of iridium, raise that to the power of e, multiply it by Olli’s EVSH%/60 in Novembers, and add the altitude correction factor in Calgary. You will find the likelihood of Jokinen scoring a shorthanded goal in the first 10 minutes of the 35th game of the season. It aint pretty. Yuck. Replace it with Boyd’s numbers.You got yourself a date with Lord Stanley right there. Now that’s some math you can show your teachers.
by Dustin Timberlake on Nov 19, 2009 9:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
i postulated, over at mine that since the mayan calendar ends on december 21, 2012 (signalling the end of the world), iggy/olli/glenX should be dubbed “the apocalypse line.” 12/21/20(12).
by walkinvisible on Nov 19, 2009 9:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
easiest way to tell that sutter is UNIMPRESSED: gio with 23:08 TOI !!!! that’s freakin’ more than jaybouw (23:01), regehr (20:13), dion (20:13), pardy (19:25) and sarich (13:50)…. those numbers are totally out of sync with the norm….
by walkinvisible on Nov 19, 2009 9:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Pardy got 19 and a half minutes? On a healthy team? Ouch.
by Parallex on Nov 20, 2009 12:05 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well at least this Tampa Bay Anaheim game is interesting. At least I can watch some competitive hockey tonight.
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by KingJafi on Nov 19, 2009 9:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Nothing warms my heart like a good ol’ drubbing of the neighbours in Cowtown
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by raventalon40 on Nov 20, 2009 1:00 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
From the Herald today:
A reporter then asked if there was a problem with leadership in the dressing room.
"There’s things that I don’t want to discuss, but I know. I know what they are. But we are trying to deal with it. "It starts with your top players and works on down."
Jokinen?
by therealdeal on Nov 20, 2009 8:39 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Could be anyone. Honestly, it wouldn’t surprise me if he’s pointing a finger at Phaneuf or Iginla at this point.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 20, 2009 8:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Every game I watch I’m just devastated by the fact we have Jokinen instead of Cammy and Lombo.
Keenan was talking about trades last night on TSN and I just thought, who in their right mind would ask you for advice on asset management??
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