Flames @ Leafs Gamethread
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 3:53 PM PST
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Calgary Flames at Toronto Maple Leafs, Nov 14, 2009 4:00 PM PST
I'm doing double duty today, so most of my material was used up in the pregame thread. Some things I purposely skipped in order to have something to talk about here:
- It's been brought my attention that I'm probably being unfair to Olli Jokinen, who has become my #1 punching bag this year. It's probably true because, like all humans, I tend to look for evidence that confirms my preconceptions. As such, I propose a new Olli Jokinen drinking game: drink whenever he actually makes a good play.
- Sarich was abysmal again last night. In the long term, more performances like that could lead to a ticket out of town. In the short term, however, one wonders how long Sutter will put up with the Sarich/Bouwmeester pairing since there are obviously other options.
- One of those options is Mark Giordano, who I thought was outstanding last night. His reads on the PK led to the Bourque break-away and OT two-on-one chances were first class.
- Dustin Boyd hasn't made the scoresheet in awhile, but he continues to look like a better player to my eye. He made a number of notable plays at both ends of the ice and is getting better and better at winning the puck during board battles. David Moss, on the other hand, is still struggling to find his stride.
- Phil Kessel has played 5 games and already has 4 goals. Safe to say, whatever line he's on is the first line. I'm sure he'll see a lot of Bourque/Langkow tonight. The other Leaf forward to watch tonight is Alex Ponikarovsky. A 61 point getter last season, Ponkarovsky is a guy the math really likes.
- Let HNIC begin...
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Let me be the first to say this should be a pretty exciting game, notwithstanding yet another pre-game ceremony that will surely take half an hour.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 14, 2009 4:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Burned by the Center Ice/HNIC/NHL Network tonight...
…so if anyone can find a live stream, I’d love the information…
by maimster on Nov 14, 2009 4:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
…that is, for someone outside of Canada, of course…CBC.ca has figured out where I live!
by maimster on Nov 14, 2009 4:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Have you tried
ATDHE.net?
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 14, 2009 4:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, forgot about that one...
http://www.justin.tv/myleafs works just fine…
by maimster on Nov 14, 2009 4:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
personally, i check justin.tv now before atdhe.net … i find it far superior.
by walkinvisible on Nov 14, 2009 4:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I see Wayne Primeau is a scratch tonight. That’s the right move.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 4:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
that’s the right move every night.
by walkinvisible on Nov 14, 2009 4:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently it’s only because his wife gave birth last night.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 4:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ie: not a hockey decision…. classic.
by walkinvisible on Nov 14, 2009 4:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He's been decent on the PK this season, but not much else
And really, replacing him with Jamal Mayers is never the right move.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 14, 2009 4:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Mayers not working out? I didn’t mind him as a Blue, but haven’t really watched him as a Leaf.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 4:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He's been just awful.
He’s not that great defensively, and he’s also not much of a fighter. You’ve got guys like Primeau and Wallin who are better at the former, and Orr and Rosehill who are better at the latter.
Just no place for him on the roster, really.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 14, 2009 4:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i, too, thought he wasn’t bad as a leaf, and has played some good shifts for team canada (historically)
by walkinvisible on Nov 14, 2009 4:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I propose a new Olli Jokinen drinking game: drink whenever he actually makes a good play.
but…. what if you want to get drunk ??!?
with every passing game, it infuriates me just a little bit more how much keenan hated gio. last year, i don’t think gio played even a SECOND on the PK (unless there were any/all of dion, regehr & sarich already in the box) and i gotta say i think his PK work this year has been fairly outstanding.
by walkinvisible on Nov 14, 2009 4:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Giordano
Has always stood out to me as a solid, underrated defenseman. I’m not sure what Keenan was thinking hating on that guy
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 14, 2009 4:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I dont know if he hated him. he just didn’t like him as much as we think he probably should have.
So what’s this ceremony for again?
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 4:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Remembering a decade without a single winning season
The Leafs drafted Wendel Clark in 1985. That’s about it for the good things that happened to the Leafs in that decade.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 14, 2009 4:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm surprised they didn't do the obvious
And just put “REMEMBER LEAF NATION; IT ACTUALLY HAS BEEN WORSE” on the jumbotron.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 14, 2009 4:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
looks like the annual “wendel clarke ruled” ceremony :)
by walkinvisible on Nov 14, 2009 4:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
FMC: you don’t know this but i’m the biggest gio fan out there:
http://hitthepost.blogspot.com/2009/01/check-it.html
by walkinvisible on Nov 14, 2009 4:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
…. are they seriously playing this song pre-game ?
by walkinvisible on Nov 14, 2009 4:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
glass tiger ? REALLY ? the leafs are knockin’ this one out of the park…..
by walkinvisible on Nov 14, 2009 4:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
i think 21 played one of his best games of the season last night. thats not saying much though.
watched the first period of the ottawa – nyr game, kovalev is even worse than jokinen.
by shep_ on Nov 14, 2009 4:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
i was gonna make a joke ten minutes ago : “who’s gonna score in the first minute tonight ?”
by walkinvisible on Nov 14, 2009 4:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
whoa. Flames do love to do this, don’t they? Here’s hoping they don’t start sitting back all game.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 4:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I should have noted that I have Gustavsson in a hockey pool, so this isn’t terribly surprising.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 4:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
What the hell is that
on McGrattan’s head?!
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 14, 2009 4:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
his haircut.
he was apparently bored one afternoon.
by walkinvisible on Nov 14, 2009 4:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
there’s a video of it at flames .com… pretty funny.
love watching mcgrattan smiling at the highlights on the jumbotron of his loss.
by walkinvisible on Nov 14, 2009 4:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I take back my comments about Mayers being a poor fighter.
But, only slightly.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 14, 2009 4:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
What’s the point of this? Honestly?
Incidentally…how does it feel to be paying Orr 1M large?
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 4:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
or preems 1.4 ?
probably a lot like the way it feels to be paying jokinen 5.5 i’d imagine…. ;)
by walkinvisible on Nov 14, 2009 4:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The JFJ era was just two years ago now.
With that in mind, $1M for Orr feels like chump change.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 14, 2009 4:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i think prust only fought so he could spend some time in the box with mcG. and advise him on the nose situation.
by walkinvisible on Nov 14, 2009 4:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
looks like bourque wants a look at mcG’s nose too.
by walkinvisible on Nov 14, 2009 4:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There’s your pugnacious Brian Burke hockey.
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by KingJafi on Nov 14, 2009 4:29 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
is glenX back next game ? or one more ?
by walkinvisible on Nov 14, 2009 4:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I was gonna joke about Beauchemin not earning his paycheque
Perhaps that would’ve been ill-timed.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 14, 2009 4:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
i wonder if that was a gio miscue or sarich, but clearly nobody took the guy infront.
by walkinvisible on Nov 14, 2009 4:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for picking up for me Kent. I’m out the door to go see the Tyler Bozak Experience aka Manitoba at home to the Marlies.
I could have done with the PP goal against to send me out the door, but that’s how it goes. 8-6 again?
by Robert Cleave on Nov 14, 2009 4:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Craig Simpson.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 14, 2009 4:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ahh..Healy’s between the benches.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 4:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
simpson has time to do colour with all the figure skating ??? ;)
by walkinvisible on Nov 14, 2009 4:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Great play by Langkow to strip Kessel there.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 4:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Nice goal. Good to see him being rewarded.
Annnndd they’re pulling the Monster. That’s terrible news for me personally.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 4:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Just not his night.
Not entirely his fault, but with 3 goals on 5 shots, they needed to get him outta there.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 14, 2009 4:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that last goal was a bad break for the Kid, but the first two….he put himself in a pretty deep hole there.
by LawrenceS on Nov 14, 2009 4:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nystrom picking up where he left off last night.
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where are you sitting tonight ? i wanna see the lanny jersey !!!!!
by walkinvisible on Nov 14, 2009 4:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Stepped away to make a call (and avoid the pregame ceremony) and just started watching in time to see Boyder score…good score, hope this isn’t going to be a high scoring affair though. Starting to enjoy them playing good D again…
by maimster on Nov 14, 2009 4:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
In terms of scoring chances, it’s been pretty low event affair thus far. If the Flames can keep this up, it should be a decent night.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 4:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Has Jim Hughson not watched any Flames hockey this year? If he’s top dog at HNIC, he should know that Iggy-Joker-+ is not the “Flames top line”
by maimster on Nov 14, 2009 4:47 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
they are and will always be considered the first line cause it’s the big money line and our captain is on it… even though they’re not producing like the first line.
by walkinvisible on Nov 14, 2009 4:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
True, but most of the road announcers that I’ve heard lately (via Center Ice) have made the point that 22-17-15 is really been the top line for the Flames this year – if they can realize that in St Louis and Dallas, you’d think they’d get it in Toronto too.
by maimster on Nov 14, 2009 5:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he’s pretty much the weak link right now…
by maimster on Nov 14, 2009 4:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
they play limp bizkit at the acc ?
by walkinvisible on Nov 14, 2009 4:47 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
God, they shouldn’t play Limp Bizkit anywhere.
by LawrenceS on Nov 14, 2009 4:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yuck. The last thing we need is both guys giving the puck away.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 4:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why are they giving the ribbing to Toskala? Don’t they know that he didn’t let in the first 3?
Or maybe its for the last 3……years that is.
by LawrenceS on Nov 14, 2009 4:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. I think the Leafs fans are just mad at goalies in general.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 4:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Kipper leaving rebounds that we’re fortunately jumping on. Better teams wouldn’t be so nice…
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Sure, but it’d be good it the defense started eliminating the wide open man getting a shot…the turnovers and the breakaways.
by LawrenceS on Nov 14, 2009 4:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, pretty loose in the neutral zone for a couple of minutes there…
by maimster on Nov 14, 2009 4:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
toskala looked pretty shaky on that shot from dion
by walkinvisible on Nov 14, 2009 4:59 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
“swedes will hit finns”
-d.sutter on tuomo’s hit on m.nilson
k, dudes. i’m outtie.
by walkinvisible on Nov 14, 2009 4:59 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I’ll be sure to keep the Joker candle lit for you! :-)
by maimster on Nov 14, 2009 5:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty weak effort by the Flames in the latter half of the period. Especially in the neutral zone.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 5:00 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Another good shift by Boyd’s line. They might be the best of the period for Calgary.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 5:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
That was a familiar script...
…get a lead early and then try your darndest to give it all back. Nice to have the lead, but I wasn’t impressed with that period.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 5:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but you're up against a team with little to no finish.
Unless Kessel has the puck, there’s not much reason for concern.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 14, 2009 5:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but what about…uh….hmm…I see your point.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 5:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nor I, score aside that was a bad period for the good guys.
And I didn’t think it was possible but Cherry’s managed to get more racist and obnoxious.
by Parallex on Nov 14, 2009 5:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
corsi. All the heavy lifters were under water, but everyone else held their own.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 5:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Chances were 6-4 in favor of the Leafs in the that period.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 5:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
cherry complaining about sjöströms shot blocking haha, no clue at all
by shep_ on Nov 14, 2009 5:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
At least didn’t cry about something this time I guess.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 5:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sjostrom was a good pickup for you guys.
Actually, I like the Flames bottom 6. A lot. Glencross has to be one of my favourite players on the Flames. Next to Iggy, of course.
Plus, they were really the only players who actually played well against Chicago in the playoffs last year.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 14, 2009 5:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, the Flames depth up front is pretty solid.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 5:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He had a point on that particular play, there were three Flames doing a whole lotta nothing other than standing around.
by LawrenceS on Nov 14, 2009 5:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
sure but one shift does not a flamingo make…. ADDITIONALLY, i believe freddie had quite an awesome shift to start the second….
by walkinvisible on Nov 15, 2009 1:35 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They keft Kipper out to dry on that one…
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Flames are getting their asses handed to them. They’re not even in the game right now.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 5:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
That’s good to see, something I didn’t witness often enough with Keenan on the bench. Shots 19-7 again….two PP goals against and a 3 on 1 as I type. Pathetic.
by LawrenceS on Nov 14, 2009 5:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, by asses handed to them….I thought you meant the verbal ripping by Sutter.
by LawrenceS on Nov 14, 2009 5:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That one was created by Iginla being stupid in the neutral zone. Just awful.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 5:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Since the Boyd goal, chances are 10-1 in favor of the Leafs.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 5:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Is that the new trend? Go up big and give up a boatload of shots? 20 SOGs for the Leafs!?!?
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by KingJafi on Nov 14, 2009 5:27 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Nothing new about it. They started doing it in game one of the season.
The blueline has been abysmal tonight. Regehr, Sarich, Bouwmeester…making bad plays and bad reads.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 5:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess the going up in the first minute only is the new trend then.(Chicago game excluded)
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by KingJafi on Nov 14, 2009 5:33 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Glad Toskala’s been able to save those 2 shots in 16+ minutes…
by maimster on Nov 14, 2009 5:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Holy crap. This IS ugly….who is this team….it’s a whole new level of suck
by LawrenceS on Nov 14, 2009 5:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
WTF is sarich doing in that play???? Stepping up to deliver a big hit…and leaving a 3on1.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 5:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
These guys should have stayed in the dressing room. They don’t even look like an NHL club.
The Leafs look hungry as hell though.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 5:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
24 shots on net and just 2 PP’s against. Wow.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 5:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
The leafs are on pace for about 53 shots.
by LawrenceS on Nov 14, 2009 5:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Kipper
Could easily make 40 saves tonight.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 14, 2009 5:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
can’t stand being around all these leafs fans…
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Hi.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 14, 2009 5:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He’s in the stands at the AC Center.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 5:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I know.
I felt like bugging him in friendly territory. Sorry. :P
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 14, 2009 5:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Heh. Just wanted to make clear he wasn’t talking about present company.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 5:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha.Definitely much friendlier here online. These wimps talk all their trash when you wait in line for the pisser.
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by KingJafi on Nov 14, 2009 5:43 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for pointing that out Kent. Good solid showing again tonight by Flames fans.
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by KingJafi on Nov 14, 2009 5:40 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, this is where we need to… well,… at least get some shots… please.
by LawrenceS on Nov 14, 2009 5:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Putrid. Iginla gives the puck away in the neutral zone and then 3 Flames watch Stempniak drive the net.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 5:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
They can’t retrieve the puck in the offensive zone. Just can’t.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 5:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Just get out the period guys. Jesus.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 5:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
This worst part about it, is that this result, thus far, is not even much about the Leafs playing well, it is a simple, clinical example of how you lose a hockey game. It’s hard to imagine a team playing so poorly.
by LawrenceS on Nov 14, 2009 5:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Let’s give the Leafs some credit…they’re playing well.
But yeah, Flames look exhausted. And like they have their heads up their asses.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 5:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Quite frankly, I don’t think they are. Those goals were hardly Gustavssons fault alone, and they are down 3-2 although having the shot domination they have had. It should be 2-0….or 5-0, not 2-3…for the visitors. They have responded, but they haven’t played as well as it looks.
by LawrenceS on Nov 14, 2009 5:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This is easily the Flames worst game since the Dallas debacle. It’s two giant steps back by this club.
Of course, this is almost always how they pay on the second night of back-to-backs.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 5:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Giant gaps between Flames and the Leafs whenever Toronto has the puck. It looks like PP any time TOR has it in the Flames zone.
Yuck.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 5:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Do the Flames ever win defensive zone draws?
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 5:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Kent, You know its bad… when it has become just you and I spewing absolute hate towards the screen. About 10 consecutive posts of sheer and total disgust.
by LawrenceS on Nov 14, 2009 5:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
haha, yeah.
Man, what a display of suck that period was. 20-4 in shots, 13-4 in chances. The Flames are lucky as hell to be ahead by a goal.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 5:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So I’ve gotten used to giving up so many shots. But 11 shots so far on this Maple Leafs is just poor and quite frankly annoying.
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by KingJafi on Nov 14, 2009 5:56 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Trading chances Gio? I think the Flames are getting to much value for their chances then because it looks like they are giving you 3 for every 1 of yours.
by LawrenceS on Nov 14, 2009 5:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Corsi through 2. Bouwmeester is an unbelievable -17, which probably comes from starting every shift in your own zone behind forwards that never, ever win face-offs. Not that he’s playing all that well though.
Bourque, Langkow, Dawes having a rare off night in terms of possession.
At least Iginla and Jokinen are above water I guess.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 6:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
(Gio, on the other hand, is somehow +13).
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 6:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I saw that too. Are the flames just shooting that poorly? because Gio’s corsi is higher than the shot total….can that be correct? I guess is possible….but a little mind-boggling.
by LawrenceS on Nov 14, 2009 6:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, it’s possible given that shots are just one third of the total sample.
Lots of blocked shots and shots deflected close to the source in that period. The few times Calgary got scoring chances in that period, the forwards almost universally failed to pull the trigger before there was a defender in their face.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 6:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Lord, I can’t stand Milbury. He can’t have a debate without rolling his eyes and feigning contempt for his adversary…even when his own arguments are weak as baby ducklings.
Idiot.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 6:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Flames are going to have to figure out their break-out. The ol’ “rim the puck slowly up the boards” has really shot them in the foot the last 2 games.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 6:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
They need something to change. because another period of the shots being 15-5 is going to spell loss pretty quickly.
by LawrenceS on Nov 14, 2009 6:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well..it would also help if guys like Robyn Regehr would win puck battles every so often, Sarich wouldn’t pass it to the other team, the forwards wouldn’t give the puck away in the neutral zone……..
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 6:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Kipper has got to be exhausted at this point. Outshot last night….and now getting hammered tonight. I would love to see a period of allowing no more than 5 or 6 shots against.
by LawrenceS on Nov 14, 2009 6:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yes…thank god the Leafs have shitty goalies.
by LawrenceS on Nov 14, 2009 6:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Even though that was a good shot. I should be fair to Toskala
by LawrenceS on Nov 14, 2009 6:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
True. That’s a tough shot to stop.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 6:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Heh. At least Jarome’s making the most of his chances.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 6:16 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that’s for sure. What….2 on 1 with Prustie and he doesn’t pass? Where’s the teamplay?
by LawrenceS on Nov 14, 2009 6:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yet another disaster by everyone…. especially Sarich (less Kipper of course)
by LawrenceS on Nov 14, 2009 6:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Look at the gaps between the Flames and Leafs! It’s just mind-boggling.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 6:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
The Flames aren’t even moving right now.
by LawrenceS on Nov 14, 2009 6:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
At least they didn’t give up any 10 bell chances on that one.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 6:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, and the clock is being forgiving right now as well. The period is moving quicker than the players.
by LawrenceS on Nov 14, 2009 6:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Finger has been a shot blocking animal.
by LawrenceS on Nov 14, 2009 6:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Especially in scoring areas like that.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 6:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Jokinen does not wanna be messing with Beauchiman
by LawrenceS on Nov 14, 2009 6:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know what Sjostrom is thinking on that play. The Leafs have been hard on the offensive boards all night. You have the puck on your stick on the boards. You have to know someone is coming for you right now. Instead, he carries the puck into coverage, gets smoked and causes a 2on1 down low going the other way.
Awful.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 6:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Joker has been doing nothing all season, but Sjostrom owes him a beer for that.
by LawrenceS on Nov 14, 2009 6:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure.
The good new is…the Flames are marginally outchancing the Leafs in this period! yay!
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 6:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I’ve pretty much missed everything from early 2nd ‘til now…I guess that’s probably for the best? haha
by maimster on Nov 14, 2009 6:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. She’s been an ugly one. Aside from being ahead for the whole game (somehow).
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 6:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
On the bright side, I think the Boyd line has actually been not too bad.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 6:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Two on five and the Flames still have trouble…with the forwards.
by LawrenceS on Nov 14, 2009 6:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah….Kipper is a (n unnecessarily) proud mofo… he refused to play for Finland for years because of a grudge he held against their national program.
by LawrenceS on Nov 14, 2009 6:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
haha. That makes me like him more.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 6:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Beauty… it’s all over now, unless the Flames can get worse in 6 minutes.
by LawrenceS on Nov 14, 2009 6:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
It’s unreal that the Flames are ahead by 3 goals in this game. The Hockey Gods hate Toronto (too).
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 6:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
It’s really funny that Reggie and Phaneuf are +4. Hockey gods love them tonight.
by maimster on Nov 14, 2009 6:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Fans are seeing that the leafs have just giving up.
by LawrenceS on Nov 14, 2009 6:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, TOR has packed it in.
And it’s Jokinen’s third minor in two games.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 6:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Luckily it doesn’t matter that much.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 6:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Man… Darryl didn’t look happy at all. Maybe both Sutters are going to take turns yelling at the players.
by LawrenceS on Nov 14, 2009 6:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Well, that’s game. I’ll take the win but…sheesh.
The Captain continues to improve, which is good news.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 6:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Jesus….40-22. That’s brutal. Outshot 2-1. At least they didn’t get to 45.
by LawrenceS on Nov 14, 2009 6:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
At least they outshot and outchanced the Leafs in the third I guess.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 6:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, everyone should have a smile on their face! It’s good to survive a stinker or two, and they played pretty well the rest of the road trip (against one really good team and one 1/2 good team they got 5 out of points). So, forget the means and enjoy the ends…
by maimster on Nov 14, 2009 6:59 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Scoring chances are up. ES was surprising close, but the Leafs finished the night ahead of the Flames, mostly because their PP was very strong.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 6:59 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Safe to say this was the game of the Good the Bad and the Ugly but we came out on top when it mattered the most some thoughts.
- Kipper amazing like he has been all year.
- Power play finally got a goal but needs to be much better with the talent we have.
- Iginla is playing like a man possessed.
- Sarich wasn’t very good at all.
- I think the play tonight showed a very tired team on an eastern road trip but outside of most of the 1st and all of the 2nd we did what we had to do.
WE CAN’T COMPLAIN lol
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by CofRed on Nov 14, 2009 7:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Just finished this game taped on the PVR. A few more thoughts.
FUCK IS OLLI JOKINEN TERRIBLE.
SERIOUSLY, HE’S UNBELIEVABLY BAD.
Kipper was awesome again.
That is all.
by Subversive on Nov 14, 2009 7:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
but he looked good in that fight !!!! and by “looked good” i mean in the way that bleeding turtles look good.
ps: on the radio after the game they said “the final score in toronto tonight: kiprusoff 5, maple leafs 2”… awesome….
;)
by walkinvisible on Nov 15, 2009 1:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder how humiliated he was sitting in that penalty box, knowing that the entire country was watching him on TV at that moment as he bled like a stuck pig. It bothers me to say this, but he might be worse than sparklepants at the moment.
by Subversive on Nov 15, 2009 11:35 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
during the sabres game i said “i effing hate him. seriously. worse than bertuzzi. officialy. cause he’s expensive and we gave up so much….could we trade jokinen for bertuzzi ?” …. perhaps i’m now overlooking what good things he does purely based on my ire but he is an embarassment. sure, it was nice that he “stood up” for freddie, but he looked like alex semin in that fight. and this is not a compliment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDRCpN4OMpM
by walkinvisible on Nov 15, 2009 11:41 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you people serious?
You know I don’t want to defend Jokinen either but some of you make it impossible.
You’re slamming Joker for fighting Beauchamin? That’s super harsh. Beauchamin is a friggin’ tough dude and considering that we should be applauding Joker for trying to be involved. (fighting debate excluded). Dude got his ass one-punched…..but basically so did Iggy by the same guy. Yeah Iggy got up, and ate another, but at least Joker is trying to do something out there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-Ar_BTlGOY
Holy sh*t, sure he’s struggling, but cut the guy some F%$*ing slack.
by LawrenceS on Nov 15, 2009 2:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
roman turek re-negotiated his contract for less money in 04 cause he wanted to stay with the team and knew he wasn’t worth what he was getting paid.
‘nuff said.
(i’m lookin’ at you, olli)
by walkinvisible on Nov 15, 2009 6:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, WI, I know this, and you know this. I’m not saying Jokinen is a value contract right now, or that he will ever be. I’m not inclined to defend his overall play, his two goals, his poor defensive coverage or any other issue with Jokinen. All I am saying is the guy put his neck out there for Sjostrom (whether warranted or not) and got his face punched in for it. Maybe people prefer Jokinen with less involvement than that. Well, I don’t, and I’m sure not going to sit here and make fun of the guy for it, cause Beauchamin throws a hard punch, which both Iggy and Joker know.
He’s putting in a effort and not being rewarded, and he could put in more effort in my mind, but he could also put in a lot less. Maybe people would prefer that though? I don’t know.
by LawrenceS on Nov 15, 2009 8:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He will take whatever mocking I choose to send his way, and he will like it, damnit.
When he starts playing better, I’ll mock him less, it’s that simple.
by Subversive on Nov 15, 2009 8:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i guess perhaps it’s cause i’m already down on the guy, so he’ll have to do a whole lot more than defend his scandinavian homeboy for getting hit legally, but it seemed kindof contrived to me. it was like he saw an opportunity to be a good teammate and the big hero, and he got embarassed for it by turtling moments after the first punch was thrown….
sure, yeah. he turned up to play in toronto. i’ll need to see that and MUCH more in the next games in order to consider him anywhere near worth his contract and his trade….
by walkinvisible on Nov 15, 2009 9:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Get over it we’re stuck with Olli until July 1st, 2010 so I guess we have to get used to it and hope he will play up to mediocrity I’d be happy with 50 points right now but he is giving his all and it’s just not paying off like LawrenceS said just give it some time.
He’s on pace for 9 Goal & 36 Assists.
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by CofRed on Nov 15, 2009 10:54 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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