Flames at Sabres Gamethread
Calgary Flames at Buffalo Sabres, Nov 13, 2009 4:30 PM PST
Buffalo has a similar record to Calgary, but they've gotten there by the opposite path: whereas the Flames rode a high shooting percentage through the first month or so, the Sabres have Ryan Miller stopping everything he sees. Only 5 of their skaters have a on-ice SV% below .920 right now (at ES), while a majority of the club sits were all above .940. That's crazy good. On the other end of the spectrum, only two Sabres skaters have an on-ice SH% above 10 - and they're both defensemen. So guys like Roy and Vanek are technically struggling to score right now, but I doubt that'll last forever.
Stuff to look for tonight:
- Patrik Kelata is the leagues best pest. Expect to hate him by the end of the night.
- Monstrous Calgarian Tyler Myers is turning heads in Buffalo. He was Keith Aulie's defense partner last year during the WJC.
- Steve Montador is fitting in well in Buffalo by all accounts. I'll never, ever forget his efforts in the 2003-2004 run - especially the OT goal versus San Jose.
- If you missed it, check out my Q&A with Die By the Blade here. I've been watching a lot of Zero Punctuation lately, so I was feeling a little saucy when I responded to David's questions.
- Jarome Iginla has continued to look more like himself recently. Does he take another step tonight?
- I noted below that Sarich has struggled a bit next to Jay Bouwmeester. If that continues, he's even more likely to become trade bait in the near future.
Let's go for five in a row.
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Posting from HSBC Arena
FYI I will be posting from behind the Flames bench at HSBC Arena tonight and the ACC tomorrow night (albeit much worse seats). Go Flames Go
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by KingJafi on Nov 13, 2009 4:13 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
NICE !!! we’ll watch for you. i presume you’ll be wearing red ? ;)
by walkinvisible on Nov 13, 2009 4:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow. They’re dropping like flies up north.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 4:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
No kidding. Pies getting ill again is sad, actually. Quality guy all around.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 13, 2009 4:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the pisani thing is (and always has been) a bit upsetting…. where IS shayne corson these days ?
by walkinvisible on Nov 13, 2009 4:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He opened a restaurant in 2007 with partner Armando Russo in the Distillery District of Toronto, called Tappo Wine Bar & Restaurant.
Good ol Wikipedia.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 4:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Another great play by Dawes. I’m really starting to warm up to that guy.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 4:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah those three guys playing together is really clicking for him.
-Colin
by Colin S on Nov 13, 2009 4:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He’s filling Bert’s spot in the line-up. You figure he’s an upgrade?
by Robert Cleave on Nov 13, 2009 4:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
here’s a totally unexpected comment by yours truly: nice shift by gio. ;)
by walkinvisible on Nov 13, 2009 4:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Tonight I'm in the Flames road white...
…But tomorrow I’ll be wearing the Lanny for 80s night.
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by KingJafi on Nov 13, 2009 4:42 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
can jokinen simply NOT skate backwards ?
by walkinvisible on Nov 13, 2009 4:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Great speed buy Boyd to get the puck to Nystrom there.
-Colin
by Colin S on Nov 13, 2009 4:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
The evidence continues to pile up against dressing McGrattan.
-Colin
by Colin S on Nov 13, 2009 4:47 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
does it bother anyone else the way loubardias says “ahginla” ?
by walkinvisible on Nov 13, 2009 4:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So Jokinen bobbles the pass, then drifts into the offensive zone without the puck…then slowly circles back, causing the off-side.
Sigh.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 4:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
No clue why he continued into the zone when it was clear the puck was not moving with him…
-Colin
by Colin S on Nov 13, 2009 4:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What an AWFUL shift by Jokinen. Wow.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 4:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
is THAT the jokinen drinking game ? ;)
by walkinvisible on Nov 13, 2009 4:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nope, that’s the ‘Jokinen has been drinking’ game
by LawrenceS on Nov 13, 2009 5:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Prust had a clear shot to the head against the glass.
Opted not to hit him though. Good move.
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by KingJafi on Nov 13, 2009 4:51 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
You Flamers will notice by the end of the night that this Buffalo team has a truly exceptional ability to miss wide-open nets. And they’ve all got the bug that started with Vanek.
It’s like SARS. Or the swine flu.
by HarryNeale'sGarden on Nov 13, 2009 4:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. The Sabres should probably have a couple of goals already.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 4:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Flames are getting worked so far. They’re really lucky they’re ahead.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 4:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Regehr’s gotta stop making weak board rims to the opposite side. That’ll get cut off every single time.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 4:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Anybody watching the Buffalo feed? The color guy’s got a very familiar voice.
They’re playing the score hard, the Flames are. Extremely disappointing to watch less than ten minutes in.
The Sabres are crowding Kipper, it’s kind of annoying that we’re getting penalized for clearing them out after the whistle.
by R O on Nov 13, 2009 4:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Flames are getting hammered in terms of scoring chances.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 5:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s Harry Neale. He was Bob Cole’s partner on HNIC for almost 20 years.
by HarryNeale'sGarden on Nov 13, 2009 5:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Butter is furious!!
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by KingJafi on Nov 13, 2009 5:03 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I don’t mind those coincidental roughing minors but why didnt’ they call that on the scrum in front of Kipper?
by R O on Nov 13, 2009 5:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Not getting any calls tonight. Sucks.
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by KingJafi on Nov 13, 2009 5:10 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Actually after the review, it looked the right call.
by R O on Nov 13, 2009 5:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sabres finally get rewarded for outplaying Calgary the entire period.
We’ll see what happens after intermission. Second period is our worst in general.
by HarryNeale'sGarden on Nov 13, 2009 5:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
The first real instance of sustained offensive zone time since the CGY goal, comes AFTER the BUF tying goal.
The team is taking this “defense first” shit way too fucking seriously.
by R O on Nov 13, 2009 5:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Two good shifts in the entire period by Calgary. That was a paddling.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 5:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Scoreboard’s all the matters. One dumb mistake by Buffalo and a few great saves by Kipper, and it’s 3-0 or 4-0.
But it’s not. It’s 1-1, and it’s anybody’s game. Wouldn’t surprise me in the least to see Calgary leading heading to P3.
by HarryNeale'sGarden on Nov 13, 2009 5:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Holy crap we got worked that period.
Shots are 18-5? Damn, Buffalo was only 7 shots short in that period what Sutter wanted in a game. Ouch.
by LawrenceS on Nov 13, 2009 5:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Terrible in-zone play by Calgary in that period. Weak clearances, bad decisions, slow to get to pucks.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 5:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Montador has almost as many shots as the whole Flames team.
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by KingJafi on Nov 13, 2009 5:21 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Flames -10. Guess which two prominent Flames are in the black?
EV shots 16-5 BUF.
That was a hiding. Lucky thing that Kipper’s in a good place right now.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 13, 2009 5:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I dont know how they did it, since all the BUF forwards are in the black…
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 5:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sabres speed is causing the Flames fits. They keep mishandling the puck.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 5:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Feel free to post some good news, eh?
by Resolute on Nov 13, 2009 5:37 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Heh. Rather glad I can’t watch this.
by Resolute on Nov 13, 2009 5:41 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Sabres are all over the Flames. Looks like the Flames have zero time and space out there. That PP didn’t have a sniff.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 5:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Have to capitalize on this PP here.
-Colin
by Colin S on Nov 13, 2009 5:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Nice power move by Jarome out of the corner. He seems to be instantly become better as soon as Jokinen leaves the ice.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 5:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Boyd with a nice shift at both ends.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 5:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
KingJafi, that you drinking a Coke behind the bench? Backward ball cap?
by Robert Cleave on Nov 13, 2009 5:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Third consecutive PP…not that it’s done the Flames any good.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 5:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Penalty parade should at least even the SOG out
by HarryNeale'sGarden on Nov 13, 2009 5:47 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Not with the way the Flames PP is going (not to mention the Sabres PK).
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 5:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Moss got away with interference on Miller there.
-Colin
by Colin S on Nov 13, 2009 5:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Two plays late in the PP by Langkow displaying why he’s a vastly better player than Jokinen.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 5:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
has anyone else noticed how active kipper’s stick is these last few games ?
by walkinvisible on Nov 13, 2009 5:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
What a terrible play by Sarich at center to cause the 2on1.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 5:54 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
And there’s Jokinen with the dumb-ass highstick penalty.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 5:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
also ? please put boyd on the first line. just for a shift or two….
by walkinvisible on Nov 13, 2009 5:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
another jokinen offensive zone penalty.
can somebody sit this guy PLEASE !?!??!
by walkinvisible on Nov 13, 2009 5:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Robert, yes that is me drinking the Coke with the backwards hat. Good looking out… I should of DVRed this game if I knew I was going to show up.
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by KingJafi on Nov 13, 2009 5:56 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
No next to the guy with the goatee in a Flames road jersey.
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by KingJafi on Nov 13, 2009 6:01 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
shize. i only saw it for a split second. i could pick your buddy out of a lineup, though. ;)
by walkinvisible on Nov 13, 2009 6:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
huge momentum boost for Calgary here.
Powerplays had some positive effect at least
by HarryNeale'sGarden on Nov 13, 2009 5:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
You certainly called the second period turnaround, HNG.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 13, 2009 5:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What an outstanding sequence by Boyd on the PK. Too bad the puck didn’t go in.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 5:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Extremely aggressive PKing here
by HarryNeale'sGarden on Nov 13, 2009 5:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I like aggressive penalty kill, stopping them at the blue line.
-Colin
by Colin S on Nov 13, 2009 5:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Very good PK.
Amazing pass by Gio to Bourque for the break-away. Too bad he couldn’t bury it.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 5:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Not tracking currently, but probably.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 6:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
best PK of the year. we just need to slow shit down now.
by walkinvisible on Nov 13, 2009 5:59 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I think the Flames got more chances on the PK.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 5:59 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Better ones, at any rate. Better than on their own PP, for that matter.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 13, 2009 6:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Jokinen telegraphs shot or pass so easily. FUckin eh.
by R O on Nov 13, 2009 6:00 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
the fan on that one-timer would’ve been an AWESOME fake if the flames ended up getting a slapper from the blueline
by walkinvisible on Nov 13, 2009 6:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah good old Bourque rolling the only acceptable backhand pass – the one that gets the puck deep.
by R O on Nov 13, 2009 6:08 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
and moss is looking a lot like that guy i gave the dreamcrusher to in 2006.
by walkinvisible on Nov 13, 2009 6:08 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
can’t seem to get anything going for himself right now.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 6:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, that was a much better period. Having a bunch of PP’s helped of course.
I thought Bourque et al really came out strong after being meh in the first.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 6:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Flames -5, so +5 in the secondl. Iggy and Joker are a mile in the black.
EV shots 19-11 BUF, CGY 6-3 in the second.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 13, 2009 6:16 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I have the feeling they’re getting started a lot in the OFF end. Does anyone else have this impression?
by R O on Nov 13, 2009 6:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I do too, because they really haven’t been that good by my eye.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 6:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Joker’s taken 4 OZ faceoffs, 1 DZ. Sounds about right.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 13, 2009 6:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hard to believe Bourque and Langkow are still in the red after that period.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 6:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I think they did a lot on special teams. You don’t get a plus for PK breakaways ;-)
by Robert Cleave on Nov 13, 2009 6:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
True, but I saw them good for most of the period otherwise.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 6:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
At least he got the last name right.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 6:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Another good shift by the Langkow line.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 6:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
this does not bode well for the defacto #1 pairing.
by walkinvisible on Nov 13, 2009 6:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Another bad PP effort by the “first” unit.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 6:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
And the second line gets all the chances. Again.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 6:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
First PP stands around, does nothing. Second group moves their feet, and some action happens. That’s a hint, don’t you think?
by Robert Cleave on Nov 13, 2009 6:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Second line is just better all around. Smarter, faster, better at winning battles.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 6:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Are they hoping for OT or what!?
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by KingJafi on Nov 13, 2009 6:44 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
looks like it. also looks like they’re one bad giveaway from a loss….
by walkinvisible on Nov 13, 2009 6:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
McGrattan just made his way up and down the bench all game.
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by KingJafi on Nov 13, 2009 6:47 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Quite the move by Connolly on Phaneuf.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 6:47 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Losing a lot of defensive zone faceoffs it seems like.
-Colin
by Colin S on Nov 13, 2009 6:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
And Phaneuf has got to put Connely on his ass if he is going to be fancy with his head down.
-Colin
by Colin S on Nov 13, 2009 6:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Could keep by Boyd along the boards. Immediately deflated by Sarich shooting the puck into a block.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 6:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Bourque and Boyd look like the only ones trying to get anything done. Dawes has been solid as well, but missing opportunities.
-Colin
by Colin S on Nov 13, 2009 6:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
In unrelated news, Carolina has lost 14 straight now. NHL.com keeps resetting their streak counter though.
-Colin
by Colin S on Nov 13, 2009 6:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Nothing works for that club right now. I feel terrible for their fans.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 6:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah…it’s so tough enough for those southeast teams to garner support.
-Colin
by Colin S on Nov 13, 2009 6:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i know the girl who travels with them as their flight attendant…. it can’t be a fun job for her anymore….
by walkinvisible on Nov 13, 2009 6:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They won a cup 4 years ago, and went to the last four last year. I’m not quite ready to get the violins out for them, sorry.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 13, 2009 6:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There’s a play where Iginla needs to be smarter on the break out. Conroy wins the puck deep and there’s Jarome in the middle of no-mans lands at center ice where no pass is going to get to him.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 6:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Just hoping we make it to overtime at this point.
-Colin
by Colin S on Nov 13, 2009 6:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Not sure what to think about the 3rd. Wasn’t terrible, but wasn’t great.
-Colin
by Colin S on Nov 13, 2009 7:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was alright. More time for Boyd would have been helpful.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 7:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, the point is nice to get. 4 on 4 might be a little hairy.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 13, 2009 7:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Just keep Sarich off and we should be okay.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 7:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i take it as buffalo being a fairly good team, is all.
4 on 4 is frightening, yes.
shootout is equally frightening (though the pokecheck is miikka’s new friend).
by walkinvisible on Nov 13, 2009 7:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
He avoided Sarich during the 4on4 in the 3rd.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 7:05 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
And there’s Sarich giving it away in the defensive zone.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 7:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
jokinen is getting way too much ice for a guy without goals
by walkinvisible on Nov 13, 2009 7:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
And Jokinen takes a penalty in the OT.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 7:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Damn Joker!!
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by KingJafi on Nov 13, 2009 7:07 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
i effing hate him. seriously. worse than bertuzzi. officialy. cause he’s expensive and we gave up so much.
by walkinvisible on Nov 13, 2009 7:08 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
hate.
like…. HATE.
like… could we trade jokinen for bertuzzi ?
by walkinvisible on Nov 13, 2009 7:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
no way ken holland makes that trade.
by walkinvisible on Nov 13, 2009 7:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He surprised me enough even signing Sparklepants.
-Colin
by Colin S on Nov 13, 2009 7:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That was a bullshit call. I hate the ‘back’ ref.
by LawrenceS on Nov 13, 2009 7:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
A result of Jokinen standing still, however.
-Colin
by Colin S on Nov 13, 2009 7:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
At least Sarich redeemed himself with that block.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 7:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
great play by sarich…. and that was ALMOST the move that gio won in nhl10 with ;)
by walkinvisible on Nov 13, 2009 7:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Good read on that play by Gio. Saves them about 200 feet to boot.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 13, 2009 7:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
whoah.
i’m not sure i like our odds in shootout, mind you. good effort by the flames.
by walkinvisible on Nov 13, 2009 7:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
gio taking the top corner as the 36th shooter ?
http://hitthepost.blogspot.com/2009/11/stlou-day-1-toasted.html
by walkinvisible on Nov 13, 2009 7:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
No way it goes that long. Dawes scores.
by LawrenceS on Nov 13, 2009 7:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
i love roy. olympic team for sure, IMO.
by walkinvisible on Nov 13, 2009 7:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
rofl
That should not have gone in.
-Colin
by Colin S on Nov 13, 2009 7:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
iggy NEVER scores. i don’t know why they bother.
by walkinvisible on Nov 13, 2009 7:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, that was a good game anyways. Both goalies played well.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 7:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
well the loser point is still okay i guess
by walkinvisible on Nov 13, 2009 7:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I have to say, BUF looks like a very good team.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 7:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, as long as Miller stays on.
-Colin
by Colin S on Nov 13, 2009 7:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
and derek roy is one of my favorite players in the league. he’s like regehr: awesome and totally underestimated.
by walkinvisible on Nov 13, 2009 7:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Disappointing, but lucky to even come out of overtime I guess.
-Colin
by Colin S on Nov 13, 2009 7:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
ps: ebbs and tides is an awesome saying
by walkinvisible on Nov 13, 2009 7:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
We might have to start a “Simmerisms” collection.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 13, 2009 7:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Scoring chances will be up tomorrow. I assume they’ll be pretty close.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 7:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
also ? gio is a pretty savvy PK guy, it looks like.
by walkinvisible on Nov 13, 2009 7:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Man. outshot by a pretty comfortable margin again. This is not a good trend. Hopefully we’ll at least be able to outshoot the leafs,… hopefully
by LawrenceS on Nov 13, 2009 7:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
In Iggy We Trust
Pretty crazy place to watch a shootout actually.
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by KingJafi on Nov 13, 2009 7:24 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
i BET !!! when you’re in the rink, there is really nothing more exciting i gotta say….
by walkinvisible on Nov 13, 2009 7:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hope you see a better result in T.O. tomorrow. Enjoy the game.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 13, 2009 7:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i think kipps trips on jaybouw’s stick on the roy goal
by walkinvisible on Nov 13, 2009 7:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
That game could have been over after the first, so the point’s OK.
After 3, Corsi was CGY -3, so +2 CGY in the period. Then it was -4 in the OT, so -7 overall
EV shots were 25-17 BUF after 3, 6-6 in the third. In the OT, 5-2 BUF, so 30-19 overall.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 13, 2009 7:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Most of the minus was accumulated in the first after the 1-0 goal. I have to say, that is the most disappointing thing about this team right now. They play hard-as to the score, more-so than most teams imo.
by R O on Nov 13, 2009 8:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I dont know if that was score effects as opposed to just a shitty period of hockey.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 13, 2009 9:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I s’pose. But the shift after the tying goal was dramatic imo. And even moreso in the second period.
by R O on Nov 13, 2009 9:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So do we see McElhinney tomorrow night or do you think they keep rolling Kipper?
by LawrenceS on Nov 13, 2009 7:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
If they’d won, I’d think McE for sure. Now? Honestly, I don’t have a clue. If I was pressed, I’d probably say Kipper, because they have two days off after the game, but that’s straight guessing.
by Robert Cleave on Nov 13, 2009 7:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
hopefully not both, is all i gotta say
by walkinvisible on Nov 13, 2009 7:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why? Just accept that he is, and move along, wi. There’s no chance of understanding ;-)
by Robert Cleave on Nov 13, 2009 8:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
cancel that. in the end, macoun seems to understand that olli ain’t that good.
by walkinvisible on Nov 13, 2009 7:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I love coming in after all the comments when I’ve tape delayed the game to see how the flow of conversation went, and I see that Joker took the brunt again.
However, I have to strenuously disagree this time. I don’t think anyone could have watched that game and not thought it was easily his best effort of the season – we’ve reached the point with him where every play is dissected and he’s slammed for plays that others wouldn’t be slammed for. I’m not saying he doesn’t deserve that because of prior efforts and his cost, but step back every now and then and realized he actually played pretty well tonight. Was driving to the net, took lots of shots, wasn’t panicking with the puck much at all, and did score a nice (not lucky, nice) shootout goal. I thought it was a big step up.
by maimster on Nov 13, 2009 9:59 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I guess the problem is the goal posts have moved for people watching Jokinen since he was acquired. Was he dreadful last night? No. But that’s just an improvement over his prior terribleness. He still wasn’t anywhere near the providing value. Besides short circuiting a number of power plays, he took a couple of penalties, including one in overtime. The shoot-out goal was nice though. Like Bert, Jokinen is actually good at that.
Your comment is probably a fair one. However, Jokinen is going to have to be better than “not terrible” to win me over. It would help if he was actually scoring during all his power play time I think.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 10:26 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, my Joker dial definitely doesn’t go to 11…more like 5, and he was pretty close to maxing out last night! He just looked a little more comfortable with the puck last night, even on the PP (there was one distinct time where he didn’t make a panic pass along the boards to the D, but actually held the puck, and I was stunned!). Anyway, long way from good, but I’m hoping the markers are going in the right direction.
by maimster on Nov 14, 2009 11:24 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I watched the game late from my DVR so couldn’t be here to participate, but my thoughts on the game were as follows:
Sarich was TERRIBLE. Two or three egregious giveaways and looked slow afoot (like, moreso than normal) all night.
Kipper was excellent, again. You can call me Neo, because ’I’m starting to believe…’
Iggy is looking better and better. Still not the best player on the ice, but I’m seeing more of the ability to actually control the puck along the boards, drive to the net, etc.
Moss is invisible right now. He’s not nearly as effective as I was getting used to.
Jokinen was marginally better. I’ll agree with maimster to a degree. At least the guy is shooting the puck now. He still flubs the puck more than most $1M players, much less $5.5, but he seems to be simplifying his game, which can only be a good thing. I’d still rather have Lombardi than him, but so would we all, right?
Tell me again why McGratton even dresses? When Glencross comes back, that dude needs to be permanently stapled in the press box. Prust can hold his own in a fight, and contribute on a regular shift, dressing McGratton over him is pure folly.
Overall, I’d say the Flames were right there with Buffalo. They got dominated in the 1st, dominated the 2nd, and I would say were marginally better than Buffalo in the 3rd. The Sabres are clearly a really good team, so I’m pleased with a single point in their barn, on a night when we got outshot 18-5 in the 1st. Tonight in TO the Flames should come out with a win.
by Subversive on Nov 14, 2009 8:33 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. That’s two games in a row where Sarich has looked way over his head.
by Kent Wilson on Nov 14, 2009 10:34 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i’m pretty sure we all agree that mcgrattan was dressing over prust because they were on a winning streak with that lineup, then glenX draws out and he’s a mandatory start (more or less). i would guess/hope that brent knows prusty’s a superior option, and will get the nod once glenX is back.
by walkinvisible on Nov 14, 2009 9:31 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

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