Flames Versus Avalanche Gamethread
by Kent Wilson on Oct 28, 2009 6:00 PM PDT
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It's the battle of the unsustainable this evening! Which will win out - the Flames NHL best SH% or the Avs NHL best SV%? Stay tuned!
The crowd at Milehigh Hockey are understandably jazzed about their team's start. And so they should be. It's oddly appropriate that goaltending is carrying Colorado currently, because it's goaltending that probably sunk the club more than anything else last year. They have Budaj and Raycroft to "thank" for the impressive Matt Duchene I'd say.
The kids have looked good for the Avs thus far but, frankly, if Colorado continues to win with this line-up:
Wolski-Stastny-Hejduk
TJ Galiardi-Duchene-Svatos
Durno-O'Reilly-Willsie
Then a bunch of us would have to re-evaluate all our assumptions about creating winning hockey teams. As I mentioned in the pre-game thread, Ryan Wilson is the Avs 6th defenseman currently. He would battle to be the 6th defenseman in Abbotsford if he was still in the Flames system.
This can't last. But nowhere is it written that it has to end tonight.
Let's see who continues to ride the percentage train...
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Looks like it wil be Anderson again. That’s three in four nights for him, is it not? Great goalie, but all this work is going to catch up to him soon.
by Resolute on Oct 28, 2009 6:22 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Lol. Koci wanted to fight and McGrattan walked away.
by Resolute on Oct 28, 2009 6:41 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Avs are rattled. Looking for fights and giving up a lot of odd man rushes.
by Resolute on Oct 28, 2009 6:48 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Well, that was a gift. Ugly, ugly D there.
by Resolute on Oct 28, 2009 6:50 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Not really fair to single one guy out for that shift. That was a full team effort.
by Resolute on Oct 28, 2009 6:56 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
actually, on that shift it was fair, IMO. jokinen had the puck at the blueline and instead of nudging it out, he tried to make a play……… he could easily have cleared the zone.
by walkinvisible on Oct 29, 2009 1:21 AM PDT up reply actions
God, what a bunch of morons tonight. Just a pile of stupid, unforced turnovers in the defensive zone.
by Resolute on Oct 28, 2009 7:06 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I managed to get a feed here… man these Altitude announcers are horrible. Having covered the Avs this season you’d think they’d be a bit humble about luck when other teams get it.
Altitude has long been one of the worst sports channels in North America.
by Resolute on Oct 28, 2009 7:26 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
FIrst period:
EV shots on goal 8-6
EV shots toward net 13-13
We’re making these guys look good, or what?
They have some quick feet, R O. They certainly can fore check. The last 10 minutes looked like the game they played last night in Edmonton, where they take all the flow out of the game for the other team.
by Robert Cleave on Oct 28, 2009 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions
It would help a lot if we could pass worth a damn.
by Resolute on Oct 28, 2009 7:27 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Just got in. I’m going to watch the first period here in fast forward, but it sounds like the goaltending wasn’t too impressive in that period.
The goaltenders really didn’t have much to do with it, Kent. Both Calgary goals were deflections of Kyle Cumiskey, and the Colorado goals were scramble situations where the Flames did a lousy job of clearing the zone.
by Robert Cleave on Oct 28, 2009 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions
“good defence” in Colorado = hooking. Course, they let us get away with some interference which Jokinen promptly screwed up.
by Resolute on Oct 28, 2009 7:39 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
The ice is beyond awful as well. Neither team is handling all of the rolling pucks well
by Resolute on Oct 28, 2009 7:53 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
i met one of the main ice dudes when i was working at the ‘dome in september. i saw him out between periods no less than twice, and that’s not normal.
by walkinvisible on Oct 29, 2009 1:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Jesus christ… You GOTTA call the hook when it takes away a breakaway. e
by Resolute on Oct 28, 2009 7:50 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Yeah, that was a fairly dominany period. Would have been nice to see a few go in, but if they keep this up I’ll be happy whatever the outcome.
Yeah, they couldn’t stay out of the box, and couldn’t kill ‘em off. That’s Abby’s first long road trip, and the AHL is no bargain away from home. Sutter’s right, all the young D are going to require a lot of patience.
by Robert Cleave on Oct 28, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I could handle trailing if they earned it, but that is the third goal we have flat out given them tonight. Pathetic.
by Resolute on Oct 28, 2009 8:27 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
If we are above 35% on face offs tonight, I would be amazed.
by Resolute on Oct 28, 2009 8:31 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
This colorado team is all luck. Maybe not tonight, but it will run out.
by Resolute on Oct 28, 2009 8:47 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
JBo and Gio out together (I think?) – I’m surprised Gio’s tapped over Phaneuf for “we need a goal” time.
…and also had one of those terrible dion nights.
by walkinvisible on Oct 29, 2009 1:26 AM PDT up reply actions
At least it wasn’t Vancouver. I can stand losing to luck, I can’t do it to cheats and divers.
Iginla had a fantastic night by the numbers.
Im sure most of the team is well in the black.
Nothing he did in particular impressed me. I thought Bourque was great.
The separation between him and the other forwards is incredible though. He must have been getting a lot of icetime tonight, I didn’t notice but the shift charts willl bear that out.
I’d guess he was against O’ Reilly’s line a fair bit.
by Robert Cleave on Oct 28, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Yup. The guy with the 107.9 PDO number.
by Robert Cleave on Oct 28, 2009 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Do the Flames announcers ramble on about how good they played after getting outshot 32-14 and scraping out a win? I could be wrong but I’m fairly sure they don’t.
Simmer just admitted the Flames played poorly and got a few wins earlier. That’s reality-based, so good for him.
by Robert Cleave on Oct 28, 2009 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions
To be honest, the Flames never got a clean look at Anderson in the third. Lots of attempts, but they never really got any good wood on anything, or a chance to shoot high.
Yeah, Colorado collapsed a lot and the puck seemed to bounce around like a tennis ball. When a player did have a clean look, he fanned on it.
That’s how it looked to me in the stadium as well. Any time the Flames had a shot at getting of a hard one-timer from the blueline the puck was just bouncing so much that the point man had to settle it down and by the time that happened the Aves were pressuring hard enough that the puck had to be passed or only a lackluster shot taken.
Yes, and from what I saw at the dome he deserved it. He looked good there tonight. Rene Bourque looked better but he didn’t score. Kipper looked slow and tired I thought.
Duchene was really impressive, I hadn’t seen him play this year and before I saw the name on the sweater I noticed him right away. Anderson looked really solid out there, he doesn’t provide too many second chances does he?
Yes really, don’t know how it looked on the tube but my definate impression upon leaving the game was that Jokinen was the forward who generated the most scoring opportunities. The three stars were who I would have chosen.
On another bright note the PK looked pretty good last night.
Fun stadium fact. There was a guy walking around at intermission with the sign “Dion = Pylon” that had a cute little drawing of a pylon… it would have been clever, except pylon was spelt incorrectly.
To be honest this outcome is better than, say, a loss to EDM or VAN and a win tonight. Calgary continues to improve although you have to take the opposition into account.
Saturday will be a real test. Detroit still looks all-world.
I’m not too upset with 14 shots at EV.
by Robert Cleave on Oct 28, 2009 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, this reminds me of that loss to St. Louis last year (3-2, 2 quick goals in the 3rd). We played well in that game as well, and in a thousand parallel universes we win probably in 750 of them.
But at the end of the season I still looked back to that game and wondered “what if”? I wonder if we will do that this season. I hope not.
Bah. I can’t believe Colorado’s ….ahem…“luck.” They had almost no chances, friggen pulled out unbelievable plays on what few they had, and popped them in. To be honest Anderson didn’t even look that good. The first goal was stoppable for sure, I don’t care if it deflected…it sure didn’t move much. After that, he hardly looked tested.
The Colorado team is uncanny though. They skate super hard and just smother the opposition. It was a frustrating game to watch, but forgetaboutit. Let’s just move on to Detroit and forget this. Defensive/Goalie numbers ‘look’ puke tonight though.
The Colorado team showed lots of try, they played generally good D-zone coverage, but we still managed to gain the zone effortlessly, win a ton of battles and control the puck. I agree he wasn’t tested much one-on-one – I’m interested in seeing Kent’s scoring chance count, it’s probably not as lopsided as the shot count but hell if we didn’t go 60-40 or more.
I guess I have nothing to add that hasn’t been said already. Flames were the better team by far, but really weren’t great at generating top notch scoring chances (especially in the third). Frustrating thing is that the way to beat Colorado is get an early lead and change their game, especially in the 2nd night of a back to back. Flames got the early lead, even if lucky, and then shit the bed for 10-12 minutes before deciding to dominate. They should have been able to keep it 2-0 after one and it would have been over.
By the way, quote of the night from the Avs announcers after the 2-2 goal…“Flames score two lucky goals and then the Avs score 2 goals after hard, hard work”…I guess blind bounces off butts counts as hard, hard work!
And agree with Kent, when it collapses for Colorado it’ll get ugly, like 13 losses in 15 games ugly.
……. “quote of the night”???
That homer McNab said it ALL night
by Calgarian in SJ on Oct 28, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
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