Flames versus Oilers Gamethread
by Kent Wilson on Oct 24, 2009 6:30 PM PDT
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Edmonton Oilers at Calgary Flames, Oct 24, 2009 7:00 PM PDT
As well as being the third battle of alberta this year, this is game #10 of the season for Calgary, so expect more than the typical analysis once this one is over. That said, it's possible not a lot can be taken from a contest where the opposition is ravaged by the flu and sitting a bunch of their starters (just watch the Flames lose now that I've said that).
Since Jokinen was demoted to the third line (incidentally - that's where he was playing in PHX when the Flames traded for him), the Flames have made some strides in terms of limiting shots and generating scoring chances at ES. Jarome Iginla has looked more like his old self as well, although the shift away from playing him against the big boys may also have something to do with that. If those two trends continue, one wonders just how long the Sutters will be satisfied with paying 5.25M for a third liner. To put it another way, Scott of Copper 'n Blue snuck in this clever little bon mot over at his place when listing Calgary's forwards lines for tonight's contest:
Nystrom - "Lombo makes 1.9M" - Sjostrom
Ouch.
Let's get it on.
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And Mike Cammalleri ends the game in OT against the Rangers, capping off a 4 point night.
by Kent Wilson on Oct 24, 2009 6:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m happy for Mike.
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by KingJafi on Oct 24, 2009 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im unhappy we have Jokinen instead of Mike.
by Kent Wilson on Oct 24, 2009 6:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I’d rather we had someone other than either of them.
by Resolute on Oct 24, 2009 6:57 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
The flu thing concerns me. This is a classic trap game for Calgary. Edmonton is going to come out hard, gotta come out harder and give them no momentum.
by Resolute on Oct 24, 2009 6:55 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
The lay-off can be a problem. Practicing isn’t like playing, so the team may need a period to get their legs under them. That said, the Flames have been lights out in the first period this year (not so much the rest of the game though).
by Kent Wilson on Oct 24, 2009 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
“This battle should resemble the Vernon-Fuhr days of old”
- CBC guy
Jeebus I hope only Fuhr shows up tonight.
by R O on Oct 24, 2009 7:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Vernie was the better goalie, so I’d take that matchup.
by Resolute on Oct 24, 2009 7:02 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
How about Trevor Kidd vs. Tommy Salo?
by Kent Wilson on Oct 24, 2009 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I miss those games. Not.
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by KingJafi on Oct 24, 2009 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
McGrattan out.
McGrattan OUT.
McGrattan FUCKING out!!!
by R O on Oct 24, 2009 7:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Phew. Glad to see Sutter goes with the better player.
by Kent Wilson on Oct 24, 2009 7:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Good news. I wonder where he slots in? I’d think I’d have to put him with Jokinen, even though I’m worried it would be Joker dragging Moss down, rather than Moss lifting Joker up.
by ngthagg on Oct 24, 2009 7:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Did I ever mention to you guys that I hate the Oilers?
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by KingJafi on Oct 24, 2009 7:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Penalty on the trip or the goaltender?
Goaltender – fuck what a dumb penanlty.
by R O on Oct 24, 2009 7:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
http://www.timeonice.com/shots0910.php?gamenumber=20143 for those who want to follow
by R O on Oct 24, 2009 7:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe that 66.7 pk % is the new normal. Yuck.
by Robert Cleave on Oct 24, 2009 7:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Is that Johnson completely losing the back-door player there?
The PK has looked pretty poor recently.
by Kent Wilson on Oct 24, 2009 7:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And a crap call leads to a crap goal. Terrible pk continues to haunt us.
by Resolute on Oct 24, 2009 7:15 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
why is aaron johnson on the PK ???!?!?!
by walkinvisible on Oct 24, 2009 7:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Kipper jittery about the goal-line goal, completely doesn’t anticipate the backdoor play.
Plus a couple of guys on the left side caught watching the puck. Fuck me.
by R O on Oct 24, 2009 7:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No Kent, this is good! We can hope that McG suffers a rib injury or something, and can’t play for the rest of the season.
by R O on Oct 24, 2009 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he looked like he won that one.
by walkinvisible on Oct 24, 2009 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Prust seems to be the one missing tonight.
by ngthagg on Oct 24, 2009 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like McGrattan is in instead of Prust.
by Kent Wilson on Oct 24, 2009 7:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
why is jokinen shooting on net from within the trapezoid ?!!
by walkinvisible on Oct 24, 2009 7:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
After the way the Canes lost today and the fact the Gators keep lucking out on victories, I can’t take a Flames loss to the Oil tonight. Ugh.
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by KingJafi on Oct 24, 2009 7:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Pretty low-event so far. Kinda want a bit more excitement than this.
by R O on Oct 24, 2009 7:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, nothing much happening at ES thus far.
by Kent Wilson on Oct 24, 2009 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Team’s have combined for 7 shots total thus far. Lots of skating and hitting, but nothing much else.
by Kent Wilson on Oct 24, 2009 7:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
there was that one bad penalty. and one bad goal.
by walkinvisible on Oct 24, 2009 7:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Great play by Bourque
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by KingJafi on Oct 24, 2009 7:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That, and scoring SH never hurts my feelings.
by Robert Cleave on Oct 24, 2009 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, what a goal by Langkow and Bourque.
by Kent Wilson on Oct 24, 2009 7:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Kent you still think Bourque cant repeat his work results from last year?
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by KingJafi on Oct 24, 2009 7:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the SH% and SV% won’t be as good. That said, improved PP time and such might just make up for a drop in bounces.
by Kent Wilson on Oct 24, 2009 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like what I see thus far though.
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by KingJafi on Oct 24, 2009 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depends on who he sees too. Didn’t he take on tough comp last season?
He might get the checking role like he did in CBJ but that’s contingent on Iginla either continuing to fail at PVP or continuing to succeed on a soft-minute line.
by R O on Oct 24, 2009 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here in Edmonton, its been all talk of revenge on Iggy. With that, and the fact that MacIntyre in, McGratton needed to be dressed. He “fed him a steady diet of right’s”. What, no fight fans here?
by RossCreek on Oct 24, 2009 7:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Bourque with a marginal cross-check on that goal to mask the fact that the PK was largely ineffective at puck retrieval and zone clearing.
by R O on Oct 24, 2009 7:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, the PK was a shit show up until then.
by Kent Wilson on Oct 24, 2009 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Iggy needs to take another stride I think.
But overall, nice puck pursuit on the play.
by R O on Oct 24, 2009 7:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
So why is Penner running over Kiprusoff not a penalty?
by Kent Wilson on Oct 24, 2009 7:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
which was making up for the iffy iggy interference one
by walkinvisible on Oct 24, 2009 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
how good was freddie on that play ? just sayin’… good SOG
by walkinvisible on Oct 24, 2009 7:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Werent the Oilers looking to trade Robert Nilsson?
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by KingJafi on Oct 24, 2009 7:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
he WAS benched for about a month under macT
by walkinvisible on Oct 24, 2009 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think they’re trying to trade cogliano, penner, and smid…. oh…. wait……
by walkinvisible on Oct 24, 2009 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup, he’s still available. With Brule (flu), Comrie (flu), Pisani (injured) & Pouliot (injured) all out, he’s in, but otherwise, he’s off the roster.
by RossCreek on Oct 24, 2009 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
“unmolested” doesn’t seem like the right adverb in today’s hockey climate….
by walkinvisible on Oct 24, 2009 7:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Flames can’t seem to get anything established this period. Pucks are escaping the Oilers end really easily.
by Kent Wilson on Oct 24, 2009 7:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
there’s the iggy retaliation thing.
by walkinvisible on Oct 24, 2009 7:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s probably defensible, although Stortini could have gotten something for a late hit there.
by Kent Wilson on Oct 24, 2009 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like these retarded zebras have mone on the Oilers. Another embarrassing call
by Resolute on Oct 24, 2009 7:49 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
if it was actually a highsticking call, then we got away with 2 instead of 4.
by walkinvisible on Oct 24, 2009 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought he cut him with the punch to the head.
by Kent Wilson on Oct 24, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
they were trying to support a highsticking call with video evidence but i didn’t see it….
by walkinvisible on Oct 24, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that call was bullshit
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by KingJafi on Oct 24, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No calls on Edmonton that period? Really?
by ngthagg on Oct 24, 2009 7:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nothing. Flames penalty differential has been bad the last few games, but I don’t know if it’s a real reflection of the team’s play, frankly. The officiating has been…“arbitrary”.
by Kent Wilson on Oct 24, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Arbitrary is a nice way to put it. Hopefully the refs re member they
are supposed to be neutral come the second period.
by Resolute on Oct 24, 2009 8:03 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I’m ambivalent about that period. Flames didn’t give up too much at ES, but they didn’t create much either. If I was the road team, I’d be satisfied, but at home I’d like to see more.
by Kent Wilson on Oct 24, 2009 7:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
they did have 5 days off… i thought they looked far less sluggish than i would have expected.
by walkinvisible on Oct 24, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, they don’t look sluggish to me. Just aren’t really executing, especially in the offensive zone. Lots of dumping in, dumping out and little else.
It could certainly be worse though.
by Kent Wilson on Oct 24, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, that’s my point. i EXPECTED them to look sluggish and they don’t.
by walkinvisible on Oct 24, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Breakout passes have to get a hell of a lot better.
by Resolute on Oct 24, 2009 8:05 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
They look… would unorganized be the right word? I mean they don’t look horrifically bad but at the same time it looks like a lot of them are a bit “off”. Officiating is a joke tonight, phantom non-calls to make up for undeserved actual ones, to make up for etc. etc…. blah.
Well McGrattan certainly does his job well (regardless of the value of said job) McIntyre’s face looked pretty mangled after that fight… of course I’ll note that fort all his yapping about protecting the star players from cheapshots he was nowhere to be found after the Iggy incident.
by Parallex on Oct 24, 2009 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
First period.
EV shots 8-6 Calgary
EV corsi +1 Calgary
by R O on Oct 24, 2009 7:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i gotta ask if anyone’s warmed up to PJ stock yet ? i still love that guy, but i know there were a lot of haters this time last year…. ;)
by walkinvisible on Oct 24, 2009 8:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Iggy giving it to one ref while Sutter talks to the other. Both long conversations.
by Resolute on Oct 24, 2009 8:07 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
WHY IS AARON JOHNSON ON THE PK ??!?!?
by walkinvisible on Oct 24, 2009 8:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He’s out there for Phaneuf. Trying to limit Dion’s icetime, perhaps?
by Robert Cleave on Oct 24, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s a very good shift, well rewarded.
by Robert Cleave on Oct 24, 2009 8:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice backdoor.
I have to stop arguing with Oiler fans on Lowetide. I’m missing excellent EV play here!
by R O on Oct 24, 2009 8:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That’s Nystrom’s goal, but all Dustin Boyd’s work.
by Robert Cleave on Oct 24, 2009 8:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Two shifts in a row!
McG is totally out of the play there.
Boyd with the assist.
by R O on Oct 24, 2009 8:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And what a power move by Boyd (that’s Boyd right?). Unbelievable.
by R O on Oct 24, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great back-to-back shifts.
Boyd with an all-world take away to set that up.
by Kent Wilson on Oct 24, 2009 8:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I wasn’t paying attention at first, when I saw it I thought “Iginla?”
by R O on Oct 24, 2009 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mark Lee just said chances are 6-0 Calgary at the 13:42 (time remaining) mark of the 2nd.
Can we compare this later to your count, Kent?
by R O on Oct 24, 2009 8:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This game will be done tomorrow. Im at the gfs place tonight.
by Kent Wilson on Oct 24, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
connnie’s gotta start shooting…. llike. NOw.
by walkinvisible on Oct 24, 2009 8:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I’ll give Iggy this, he’s trying hard on the backcheck.
But – it didn’t work.
by R O on Oct 24, 2009 8:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
iggy and olli TOTALLY split….even on the PP
by walkinvisible on Oct 24, 2009 8:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
pp GOAL!!
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by KingJafi on Oct 24, 2009 8:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
it’s gonna be a goal. inconclusive.
by walkinvisible on Oct 24, 2009 8:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Before the PP goal:
Iggy had a nice finesse play to set up the backdoor – who bobbled that?
On the PP goal:
Looks a little high. I’m sure they’ll go “inconclusive” and thats’ that.
by R O on Oct 24, 2009 8:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
very inconclusive
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by KingJafi on Oct 24, 2009 8:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Phaneuf is little by little earning my trust back.
-Colin
by Colin S on Oct 24, 2009 8:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And by little by little I mean quickly.
-Colin
by Colin S on Oct 24, 2009 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Phaneuf’s play is a lot easier to handle when he’s scoring. Losing that part of his game last season was the biggest change for him.
by ngthagg on Oct 24, 2009 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, the 2nd period is definitely better than the first.
by Kent Wilson on Oct 24, 2009 8:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Also, the PP looked fucking dangerous. Bouwmeester at that middle point and Phaneuf low is a combination that is going to produce results against a PK like the Oilers that can’t pressure the points.
by R O on Oct 24, 2009 8:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Those are cheap shots by Smead on Langkow
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by KingJafi on Oct 24, 2009 8:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
By rights that should be two penalties to edmonton.
by Resolute on Oct 24, 2009 8:34 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Yeah not sure how Bourque ended up with that…
-Colin
by Colin S on Oct 24, 2009 8:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Off-topic: does anyone think Colorado’s success is sustainable? Their SH% looks high, but Anderson’s play is believable.
by ngthagg on Oct 24, 2009 8:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Anderson’s pretty real, but getting out-shot all the time will catch up with them. I do like seeing Detroit take it on the nose, though.
by Robert Cleave on Oct 24, 2009 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ditto
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by KingJafi on Oct 24, 2009 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
as long as Anderson keeps playing well they will keep winning.
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by KingJafi on Oct 24, 2009 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a chance. They’re getting significantly outchanced at EV(http://gospelofhockey.blogspot.com/2009/10/avalanche-chances-games-1-to-10.html) something like 46-54 which is not the profile of a top tier team.
by R O on Oct 24, 2009 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope. COL will come back down to Earth at some point. See: FLA last year.
by Kent Wilson on Oct 24, 2009 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Oilers have adjusted their PK to pressure the points. Let’s see how the Flames PP counters.
by R O on Oct 24, 2009 8:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Looks like I missed a good start to the game
by Jeshko on Oct 24, 2009 8:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i’ll give olli that shot…. super awesome play by both he and jaybouw.
by walkinvisible on Oct 24, 2009 8:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
the refs have targeted him tonight…
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by KingJafi on Oct 24, 2009 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Flames seem to be shutting it down a bit on both sides. Not biting them in the ass so far.
I think Regehr and Phaneuf are being sent out vs. Penner/Hemsky. Sutter must want a physical element vs. Penner – not sure I buy into that reasoning personally but, well, it’s working.
by R O on Oct 24, 2009 8:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Boyd looks like quite the player so far this season. He’s making stuff happen a lot.
by Kent Wilson on Oct 24, 2009 8:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Bottom-pairing and third line got exposed vs. Horcoff and a scoring chance results. Sigh.
Smid looks like he’s got something to prove.
Fuckin’ hell, Johnson with the cross-check. We’re gonna be on the PK for this I think. Fuckin’ hell, why is Pardy in the PB?
by R O on Oct 24, 2009 8:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
way to keep your lid on gio
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by KingJafi on Oct 24, 2009 8:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i think it’s effin’ smart to keep it on. nobody needs a concussion….
by walkinvisible on Oct 24, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he should have taken it off since Smid took it off.
by R O on Oct 24, 2009 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no way…you should keep it on…if you want to talk it off…its on you…the other dude doesnt have to match.
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by KingJafi on Oct 24, 2009 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s pretty dangerous to fight someone who has his helmet on. No one wants to break their knuckles. That’s a more likely event than concussion.
by R O on Oct 24, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s a dirty shot by Johnson, plus he was nowhere on that play. Pardy needs to get back in there.
by Robert Cleave on Oct 24, 2009 8:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
what that effectively does is get under the oilers skins and piss off their fans. im not for cheap shots, but if it accomplishes the foregoing…why not.
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by KingJafi on Oct 24, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He can’t really play, though. At some point hockey still needs to occur, IMO. And that shit just cost the Flames a goal.
by Robert Cleave on Oct 24, 2009 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dirty and fucking dangeours AND unnecessary. His +19 or whatever the fuck it is, is a mirage, you could sniff it as soon as you saw what team he came from.
by R O on Oct 24, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
great point about where he came from…great point
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by KingJafi on Oct 24, 2009 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
good news on this is that we lose our 5/6 guys and they lose their 1/2
by walkinvisible on Oct 24, 2009 8:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The best news is Johnson won’t be on the PK.
by Robert Cleave on Oct 24, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Terrible penalty by Johnson. Gotta control the stick and can’t give them anything late in the period.
by Resolute on Oct 24, 2009 8:46 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
alright…here we go…let the comeback begin
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by KingJafi on Oct 24, 2009 8:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate the PP goals where the goalie is pushed in at the same time the goal.
by R O on Oct 24, 2009 8:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Three morons watching the play rather than taking the man in front. Ugh
by Resolute on Oct 24, 2009 8:49 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
so if penner was standing in the crease for that goal, how did last year’s glenX toe-in-the-crease infraction not count as a goal ?
by walkinvisible on Oct 24, 2009 8:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
come on Joker!!! you fucking shlep!!
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by KingJafi on Oct 24, 2009 8:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The old “team down by two needs help” holding call. Jokinen needs to be smarter.
by Resolute on Oct 24, 2009 8:51 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Are you kidding me!?!?!?
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by KingJafi on Oct 24, 2009 8:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Fuck. And the rookie buys the dive.
by Resolute on Oct 24, 2009 8:52 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
They want The Oil to get back into this one. That seems to be their gameplan, eh?
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by KingJafi on Oct 24, 2009 8:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Careless by Sarich there. Really careless.
by Robert Cleave on Oct 24, 2009 8:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
that is such bullshit. so he rips hs stitches off and gets an extra 2 minutes ?
by walkinvisible on Oct 24, 2009 8:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
that’s definitely a high stick, yes. but the blood was already effin’ there.
by walkinvisible on Oct 24, 2009 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course, but if you don’t high stick the guy to begin with, you get zero minutes rather than 4, right?
by Robert Cleave on Oct 24, 2009 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ref needs to call the embellishment too. That should have been two minutes each way.
by Resolute on Oct 24, 2009 9:07 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Meh, not enough of a dive. I agree the head toss was a bit rich, but it’s no Burrows-esque spinorama.
by R O on Oct 24, 2009 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t decide what’s worse: the refs getting sloppy, or the Flames getting sloppy.
I think it’s the second one, however.
by ngthagg on Oct 24, 2009 8:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, because its controllable. The refs are out of the teams hands.
by Andrew S. on Oct 24, 2009 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some plain stupid stick infractions by the Flames to end that period. Great otherwise, but these guys have to start getting their shit under control when it comes to being penalized…especially if the PK is going to continue to suck – that said, the call on Jokinen was really marginal.
by Kent Wilson on Oct 24, 2009 8:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Flames looking good overall. Johnson sucks, not sure why he’s in instead of Pardy.
by Subversive on Oct 24, 2009 8:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
you mean instead of strålman ? ;)
by walkinvisible on Oct 24, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He doesn’t look better than Kronwall at this point.
by Robert Cleave on Oct 24, 2009 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Johnson was decent last time out, but horrible tonight. Pardy deserves to com back in.
by Resolute on Oct 24, 2009 9:11 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve calmed down a bit from that late-period shitshow. So here goes.
The officiating has been ok this game, really has been – a few messed-up calls but the flow of the game has been respected.
EXCEPT for the Stortini call. That was late and allll kinds of dangerous.
Through two:
EV shots: 17-13 Calgary (in the 2nd: 9-7 Calgary)
EV Corsi: +2 (in the 2nd : +1 Calgary)
Calgary played better than that suggests though. Solid period.
by R O on Oct 24, 2009 9:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
They’ve just adjusted the EV shots to 19-13, CGY.
by Robert Cleave on Oct 24, 2009 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The PBP sheet is messed up I think. They’re showing the Oil with an EV goal. We’ll wait a while for that.
by R O on Oct 24, 2009 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is messed. Shot summary shows 20-14 EV shots, but Vic’s script says 18-14 with an EV goal for Edmonton.
Hopefully this gets fixed.
by R O on Oct 24, 2009 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They might have it right now . 19-13, and no EV goals for the Oil.
by Robert Cleave on Oct 24, 2009 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed on Johnson, he seems like a bum.
Boyd, Moss: ++++++
Glencross is having an uncharacteristically awful game, especially given what we’re used to him accomplishing against this opponent. He just can’t seem to do anything right.
Anyhoo, that was a fantastic period all things considered. Time to kill off the last 3+ mins of these penalties and coast home. :)
If the Flames score in the final minute for the 3rd straight BofA, it’ll be into the EN.
by MattF on Oct 24, 2009 9:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Most exciting play in hockey. Works for me.
by Robert Cleave on Oct 24, 2009 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. GlenX is fairly bad tonight.
by Kent Wilson on Oct 24, 2009 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dustin Boyd’s a value contract, I’d say.
by Robert Cleave on Oct 24, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
way to draw the penalty
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by KingJafi on Oct 24, 2009 9:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The rookie ref wants to make a name for himself tonight.
by Resolute on Oct 24, 2009 9:18 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Jokinen and Iginla are a complete disaster together, even 4 on 4.
by Robert Cleave on Oct 24, 2009 9:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Joker is a complete disaster every night
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by KingJafi on Oct 24, 2009 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Inadvertent. Is that a new interpretation, Kevin?
by Robert Cleave on Oct 24, 2009 9:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
cause i’m sure the sarich high stick was intentional.
by walkinvisible on Oct 24, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey, weekes also said that jokinen got horcoff on the reacharound and i didn’t say a peep.
by walkinvisible on Oct 24, 2009 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There really are mental images I could do with out. That would be one.
by Robert Cleave on Oct 24, 2009 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
meh. he’s better than crawford.
by walkinvisible on Oct 24, 2009 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And these morons watch Boys get cut wide open with no call. Terrible.
by Resolute on Oct 24, 2009 9:21 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
you mean boyd…. but boys is funnier.
by walkinvisible on Oct 24, 2009 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, not as impressive in replay, but he makes it look spectacular.
by Andrew S. on Oct 24, 2009 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amazing save.
Sarich was behind the play there. He’s been unimpressive this evening.
by Kent Wilson on Oct 24, 2009 9:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
whoah. when did we decide to not take the body anymore tonight ?
by walkinvisible on Oct 24, 2009 9:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
boyd is the best guy in red tonight, from my eye…. making some really solid decisions.
by walkinvisible on Oct 24, 2009 9:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Boyd looks fantastic. Bourque looks like Iginla used to as well.
by Kent Wilson on Oct 24, 2009 9:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Who is he getting shifts with? I see McGrattan has 1:01 ice time so far, so I assume there’s no real fourth line time.
by ngthagg on Oct 24, 2009 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Double shifting Iginla, and plenty of PK time.
by Robert Cleave on Oct 24, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
PP doesn’t look so hot anymore
Jokinen made a hail mary into traffic. Not really impressed as no one was open by the looks of it.
by R O on Oct 24, 2009 9:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That’s not a great goal, but nice to have anyway.
by Robert Cleave on Oct 24, 2009 9:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hides the relative ineffivtiveness of the PP.
Flames giving it back so far. Damn these third periods.
by R O on Oct 24, 2009 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The PP has been trucking along because of the 2nd unit this year. The first has done almost nothing.
by Kent Wilson on Oct 24, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
do you guys notice that the flames don’t retreat behind the net as much under mcgill ? they start the play from the hash marks ???
by walkinvisible on Oct 24, 2009 9:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know if I’m watching the same game as Kevin Weekes.
“Oilers on their heels” – I don’t know they look like they’ve had the better scoring chances.
by R O on Oct 24, 2009 9:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
listen. let’s be thankful for kevin weekes. last year we had marc crawford.
by walkinvisible on Oct 24, 2009 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crawford was less offensive to me… not saying he was good, just he bothered me less.
Weekes strikes me as someone who is watching a different game than everyone else.
by d_p_h on Oct 24, 2009 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i disagree 100%. i would disagree more if it was mathematically possible….
by walkinvisible on Oct 24, 2009 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cmon, this is hockey.. and hockey math is 110% is the maximum…
by d_p_h on Oct 24, 2009 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crawford’s voice and delivery were annoying but his insight was second to none imo.
by R O on Oct 24, 2009 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
was it ? i couldn’t tell cause i had to turn the volume down….
by walkinvisible on Oct 24, 2009 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hells yes! I remember a couple times where I was really impressed with how spot-on his breakdown on a player’s decision making was.
by R O on Oct 24, 2009 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if his annoying voice and delivery had negative impacts on how his teams responded to him… maybe he was an even better coach as far as his systems and knowledge of the game but just caused his teams to tune him out …
…, or maybe not
by d_p_h on Oct 24, 2009 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i count three serious posts by the oil
by walkinvisible on Oct 24, 2009 9:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t like how the oilers come into the zone with a head of steam and cut around the net, with the D and one of the O chasing them around the back of the goal, and then they throw the puck back to the D or trailing O who is wide open with no Flame around at all…
Troubling. What is this, U10 soccer (ie:swarm-ball )?
by d_p_h on Oct 24, 2009 9:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That was almost like Jokinen saw the spin-a-rama goal from the previous game and tried it himself…
by d_p_h on Oct 24, 2009 9:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Shutdown defense is being implemented nicely today. But it’s the Oil, it’s not an accomplsihment or anything.
Plus the Oil seem to be mailing it in a bit, must be saving energy for tomororw vs. the Canucks.
by R O on Oct 24, 2009 9:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know if the Oil got an EV shot in the last 10 minutes.
by Robert Cleave on Oct 24, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
nothing beats a win over the Oil
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by KingJafi on Oct 24, 2009 9:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Except maybe a win over the Canucks :D
Seeing Toronto lose 8 straight always makes me smile as well.
-Colin
by Colin S on Oct 24, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aside from Jokinen and Iginla being total non-factors again, this is was a pretty complete ame by the Flames. Like I said, it may have something to do with the flu, but I’ll take it.
Jokinen though…man oh man. Boyd is far and away a superior player right now.
by Kent Wilson on Oct 24, 2009 9:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I wanna see Boyd-Iginla as a regular combo.
by RossCreek on Oct 24, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Incidentally, Boyd saw more ice time this evening at ES.
by Kent Wilson on Oct 24, 2009 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, noted at Copper & Blue that, while Penner looked terrific, I didn’t think he was the best Dustin in this game.
And Jokinen just has nothing going for him right now.
by MattF on Oct 24, 2009 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A bunch of minuses sprinkled throughout the Flames side of the Corsi ledger.
Through three:
EV shots: 24-17 Flames
EV Corsi: +1 Flames
Oil got at least two 25-cent chances between the penalty parade and the Flames PP goal in the third.
by R O on Oct 24, 2009 9:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Iginla leading the minus parade and I don’t think he was seeing tough match-ups.
He didn’t impress me at all this evening either.
by Kent Wilson on Oct 24, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He had moments. Was getting into the dirty areas more than previous.
by Resolute on Oct 24, 2009 10:02 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Iginla? Getting into dirty places isn’t the issue with a $7M player. It’s doing something when he gets there.
by Kent Wilson on Oct 24, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My biggest concern with Iggy’s problems last night were how stumbly and bumbly he looked out there (and it seemed to infect Glencross too). I know there was one sequence where he handled away from one defender on the half boards only to juggle it away to the corner. Another where he seemed to trip over the top of the circle and had to settle to dump it into the corner. It wasn’t a lack of effort, in fact it looked like Iginla was really trying, and that is a problem, because when the really elite players are in their zone they make beating their opposition look effortless.
Also, while Jokinen still looks awful, he does not seem to be bringing down his linemates, last night I would have almost rather seen Moss playing with Conroy and Glencross because I thought he was weighing them down.
by CalTach on Oct 25, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is I thought Iggy was weighing down Conroy and Glencross.
by CalTach on Oct 25, 2009 12:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m re-watching the game and it looks to me like all 3 are struggling. Conroy is missing passes and bobbling pucks at the offensive blueline. The play dies on Iginla’s stick all the time and Glencross can’t seem to do anything right. It was a total black out for those guys.
by Kent Wilson on Oct 25, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
jokinen is gonna have a good game on wednesday. book it. i’m not sure if this is me being positive, math’ing up the odds (he’s due for a good game), or straight up wishful thinking but i’m gonna put all my chips on #21.
[we’re gonna get killed, aren’t we …?]
by walkinvisible on Oct 25, 2009 2:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Missed the game while camping, and the comments here, the highlights, the game story…none gave a good sense of this game. Looking forward to the post game posting…
by maimster on Oct 25, 2009 3:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
the scoring chances are up at FHF. Those will help.
by Kent Wilson on Oct 25, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Flames were full value for the win, especially considering they were out PP’d 8-3. An excellent effort overall, to my eye. Kent’s wrapup will undoubtably be more useful than this post.
by Subversive on Oct 25, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And comically, Oiler fans were whining that the Flames got the benefit of the officiating…
by Resolute on Oct 25, 2009 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was terrible on both sides, from where i was sitting (ie: at home)
by walkinvisible on Oct 25, 2009 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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